Driverless Cars

[3930dave]

From what I've seen and read the current and even projected self driving will not be able to operate on snow covered roads, back roads without lane marking lines or shoulder striping and no way whats so ever are they capable of traveling dusty dirt roads.
So I don't expect to see many on my roads.

Limitations...... Technology has Limitations ???

Excellent points..... I've driven snow covered roads with almost no forms of visual reference - not easy, even for a skilled Winter driver - a machine-based vision system would have a very tough time. GPS and cell coverage are just not consistently accurate enough to cover all of this continent, all of the time (in terms of being the primary reference, when vision inputs are minimal).

Your comment had me thinking about highway emergencies/shutdowns. Restricted by geography, sometimes there is only one road, so when you're stuck, you're stuck. But, if a major highway shuts down, sometimes there are tiny secondary rural roads as alternates - as a former long distance commuter, I've done that dance many a time....

I'm aware of engineering testing done on high speed autonomous convoys - the tech is there, but given the reality of limited EMS and road budgets, I can't see that being accomplished with thousands of now-blind driverless cars coming off a major highway.

Rgds, D.

 

[/pine]

One fact that is not being realized is...we are just at the beginning of applying AI...

AI will develop faster than any industrial technology of any ever before...

today's driverless cars are like the Wright Bros. first airplane...

 

[3930dave]

One fact that is not being realized is...we are just at the beginning of applying AI...

AI will develop faster than any industrial technology of any ever before...

today's driverless cars are like the Wright Bros. first airplane...

Roger that.

Probably a repeat (perhaps even in this thread), but this sums up past/present/future reasonably well.....

Humans Need Not Apply - YouTube

Rgds, D.

 

[Jstpssng]

I just would like something that will come pick me up when I come out a mile and a half from where I parked in the morning. I've wanted one ever since that show with the Camaro came out back in the '80s.

 

[Atchuuu]

I just would like something that will come pick me up when I come out a mile and a half from where I parked in the morning. I've wanted one ever since that show with the Camaro came out back in the '80s.

Knight Rider?

 

[3930dave]

Apparently, an extension cord is the best form of security....

Watch Hackers Steal a Tesla - Motherboard



Rgds, D.

 

[metalbender]

Funny thing. Years ago the local dairies had semi autonomous delivery systems. Wagon was loaded in the morning, routeman drove to the designated area, horses knew every stop for the delivery to be made with no input fron the driver.. Worked well.

 

[airbiscuit]

Funny thing. Years ago the local dairies had semi autonomous delivery systems. Wagon was loaded in the morning, routeman drove to the designated area, horses knew every stop for the delivery to be made with no input fron the driver.. Worked well.

Technology is a disruptor - horses, cars, careers .....

 

[flusher]

If you're interested in the future of driverless cars and other technological disruptions, check out the YouTube videos of Tony Seba, a Stanford U. futurist.

Technology Megatrends Leading to the Disruption of Transportation 2-2 - Tony Seba - YouTube

 

[airbiscuit]

If you're interested in the future of driverless cars and other technological disruptions, check out the YouTube videos of Tony Seba, a Stanford U. futurist.

Technology Megatrends Leading to the Disruption of Transportation 22-23 - Tony Seba - YouTube

Excellent video! Should be required viewing in Detroit or Coal Country.

 

[Bird]

I was on my way this morning to a 7 a.m. eye doctor appointment, and of course that was long before daylight. I was on a street with 3 lanes each direction; 45 mph speed limit. Suddenly the car in the left lane, and one in the right lane hit their brakes. And almost at the same instant, I saw a big black dog in the street, standing right on the divider line between my (center) lane and the left lane. When I saw him, I was right at him, too late to react, brake, etc. The dog stood still and did not get hit by either car. What would one of the driverless cars do in such a situation? The dog was not in my lane; just on the line.

 

[3930dave]

Funny thing. Years ago the local dairies had semi autonomous delivery systems. Wagon was loaded in the morning, routeman drove to the designated area, horses knew every stop for the delivery to be made with no input fron the driver.. Worked well.

All gone now, but something like 100 years ago, the small village near the farm my Dad was born on had several small hotels/taverns. More than one farmer woke up "on the wagon" late at night, because the horse was stamping at the farm gate, wanting to get back into the stable.

Rgds, D.

 

[3930dave]

I was on my way this morning to a 7 a.m. eye doctor appointment, and of course that was long before daylight. I was on a street with 3 lanes each direction; 45 mph speed limit. Suddenly the car in the left lane, and one in the right lane hit their brakes. And almost at the same instant, I saw a big black dog in the street, standing right on the divider line between my (center) lane and the left lane. When I saw him, I was right at him, too late to react, brake, etc. The dog stood still and did not get hit by either car. What would one of the driverless cars do in such a situation? The dog was not in my lane; just on the line.

Not easy to program, for sure.

How people prioritize what should be done is not necessarily universal..... some recent surveys have hit the news lately

Driverless car study asks who should get hit in unavoidable collisions | CTV News

Rgds, D.

 

[3930dave]

Just in case you didn't spend a lot of your youth reading sci-fi.......

Three Laws of Robotics - Wikipedia

Dr A had it figured out, circa WWII.

Rgds, D.

 

[cqaigy2]

I was on my way this morning to a 7 a.m. eye doctor appointment, and of course that was long before daylight. I was on a street with 3 lanes each direction; 45 mph speed limit. Suddenly the car in the left lane, and one in the right lane hit their brakes. And almost at the same instant, I saw a big black dog in the street, standing right on the divider line between my (center) lane and the left lane. When I saw him, I was right at him, too late to react, brake, etc. The dog stood still and did not get hit by either car. What would one of the driverless cars do in such a situation? The dog was not in my lane; just on the line.

Obviously, it would have detected the situation way before you did and slowed down so as to avoid the situation you found yourself in. If i was driving, probably would have found myself is hoping I'd do as well as you did and the dog didn't move as i went by.

 

[oosik]

The government is pushing and private industry is putting all its efforts into this driverless car situation. I wish there was just half this much effort being put into improving our roads.

We will end up with the latest technology going into driverless vehicles and road so bad that they can no longer be driven on.

That view from out the crack of your A*S must be stupendous...................

 

[Jstpssng]

I was on my way this morning to a 7 a.m. eye doctor appointment, and of course that was long before daylight. I was on a street with 3 lanes each direction; 45 mph speed limit. Suddenly the car in the left lane, and one in the right lane hit their brakes. And almost at the same instant, I saw a big black dog in the street, standing right on the divider line between my (center) lane and the left lane. When I saw him, I was right at him, too late to react, brake, etc. The dog stood still and did not get hit by either car. What would one of the driverless cars do in such a situation? The dog was not in my lane; just on the line.

I know people who argue that you shouldn't try to avoid an animal, as it increases your chance of having an accident. While this may or may not be the case I will still do my best to avoid it.

The government is pushing and private industry is putting all its efforts into this driverless car situation. I wish there was just half this much effort being put into improving our roads.

We will end up with the latest technology going into driverless vehicles and road so bad that they can no longer be driven on.

That view from out the crack of your A*S must be stupendous...................

I wish that "they" would put half of that effort into teaching people how to drive. Common lore right now is to blame cell phones, but they are just the tip of the iceberg.

 

[Gale Hawkins]

One fact that is not being realized is...we are just at the beginning of applying AI...

AI will develop faster than any industrial technology of any ever before...

today's driverless cars are like the Wright Bros. first airplane...

But can AI pass a drug test?

I expect this will be a driving force moving AI forward.

People I talk with today that are in transportation say they have openings but finding an applicant who can pass the drug test is their first hurdle in filling openings.

 

[3930dave]

The government is pushing and private industry is putting all its efforts into this driverless car situation. I wish there was just half this much effort being put into improving our roads.

We will end up with the latest technology going into driverless vehicles and road so bad that they can no longer be driven on.

That view from out the crack of your A*S must be stupendous...................

Even new-tech auto companies like Tesla don't have a great record when it comes to security, IMO.

As more driverless cars hit the roads, they will become more of a security target. Shutting down an Uber fleet, would make your bones as a hacker.......... Shut Engine Off, Retain Steering Control would be a relatively benign hack...... worse scenarios are easy to imagine......

Any guesses if the military will allow widespread use of driverless vehicles....... ?

Rgds, D.

 

[3930dave]

Spoon-feeding AI data.....

Why Big Tech pays poor Kenyans to programme self-driving cars - BBC News

Rgds, D.