Tank Oil Change

   / Tank Oil Change #41  
I posted a how to a while back, with some photos. You will need lots of containers. I used an old dishwasher drain hose to drain the oil into containers; it had a rubber sleeve on one end that fit over the drain plug on my 1445, and made it easy to do fill the various containers.

All the best,

Peter
 
   / Tank Oil Change #42  
I am fortunate to have a 35 gallon plastic drum that I use for waste oil. When I accumulate a few gallons, I transfer it to a 5 gallon bucket with lid and take it to the auto parts store for recycling, or the local recycle center. I use one of these low-profile oil drain pans to catch anything under the PT (or car and truck).

98E5D383-AF89-4895-89C5-BACF1702E358.jpeg
 
   / Tank Oil Change
  • Thread Starter
#43  
I posted a how to a while back, with some photos. You will need lots of containers. I used an old dishwasher drain hose to drain the oil into containers; it had a rubber sleeve on one end that fit over the drain plug on my 1445, and made it easy to do fill the various containers.

All the best,

Peter

Thanks I'll look it up ...
 
   / Tank Oil Change
  • Thread Starter
#44  
I am fortunate to have a 35 gallon plastic drum that I use for waste oil. When I accumulate a few gallons, I transfer it to a 5 gallon bucket with lid and take it to the auto parts store for recycling, or the local recycle center. I use one of these low-profile oil drain pans to catch anything under the PT (or car and truck).

View attachment 551863

Nice.. I have two new cement mixing pans I can use and as Pony stated some sort of drain hose so I can pinch if off while I rotate.. ;)
 
   / Tank Oil Change #45  
Yea, that's the hard part... it's easy to get the oil to start coming out. It's quite another thing to try and stop it if you have to before it's empty.

I can recall several instances in my life where I'm standing there with a stream of some type of industrial fluid running down my arm, into my armpit and down the inside of my T-shirt sleeve onto my ribs, and thinking.... a little better thought process would have helped before I pulled this plug! :laughing:
 
   / Tank Oil Change #46  
It would not be hard to put a ball valve into your drain line so you can switch containers without making a mess. There will be some mess slipping the hose over the drain. That will be less if the valve is open when you slip it over (obviously with the end in the container). Another option would be to siphon the oil out until you get to the last few gallons, raising the outlet each time you switch containers. The negative is you will likely leave more gunk behind unless you use the end of the hose to scrape along the bottom as you siphon. You could also use a pump to drain it.

With only the fill hole for access, it will be hard to clean well. Made worse if you have a baffle in there like mine does.

Ken
 
   / Tank Oil Change #48  
With a tube, it isn't hard; you just lift the end above the tank. I put a drain pan down when I first backed the plug out to catch the drips before I could stuff the drain hose on. You won't lose too much. Wear nitrile gloves, and you can put a thumb over the end as you move from container to container. I confess I used a small drill power pump to speed it up, but it went pretty quickly with out it.

If you are thinking of a big container, make sure that it will fit under the drain plug...

All the best,

Peter
 
   / Tank Oil Change #49  
Apologies to all. Barry pointed out that I hadn't posted the oil change routine, or if I did, neither of us could find it.

Here is how I changed the oil in the tank on my 1445.

Things on hand before starting;

  • 25 gallons of Mobil1 (I used 5W50) synthetic oil. (I got it at Walmart, on sale)
  • 25 one gallon milk jugs for the used oil (Around here, the preferred size for recycling.)
  • One semi rigid dishwasher drain hose, complete with rubber adapter to fit over the drain plug (Lying around, or HD/Lowes)
  • Three 8x8" x 2'
  • An engine oil pan for changing oil to catch the drips
  • Optional: Some hose clamps to clamp the bits of hose together
  • Optional: a spring clamp to hold the end of the hose above the tank to keep from spilling oil. (You can clamp it to the seat.)
  • Optional: One drill type mini pump
  • Optional: if you use the pump, 3' of old garden hose to go from the pump to the milk jugs

First: Put the brakes on! Chock the right side wheels, just in case.

Getting the PT angled:
I put the PT up on 8"x8" blocks on the left side (my drain plug is on the right). I did this by using the FEL to lift the front, and then putting two blocks under the left side of the oil tank, ahead of the rear tire, by lowering the FEL. Raised the FEL. I then had clearance to put one 8x8 under the rear tire. Lowered the FEL and put an 8x8 under the front tire. Time taken, about 1 min. The PT now has an 8" list to starboard, and it helps drain the oil. If you have a nice kerb or berm near where you want to drain it, that would work, too.

Draining:
I wear nitrile gloves, just in case. I then connected the pump to the hoses. I put the engine drain pan under the drain plug, and used a pair of vice grips on an allen wrench to get the plug out. As soon as it was free, I popped the rubber end of dishwasher hose on and put a worm drive hose clamp on it. I spilled a couple of tablespoons of oil. I used a mini pump for the rest, and I then pumped the oil out a gallon at a time.

Having the PT at an angle really made the draining easy and nearly complete. In the end, all but a couple of ounces drained out of the tank. Since the bottom was sludge free in my case, I decided not to add anything else in to try and clean the bottom. If you did, you could use the mini pump to spray your cleaning solution around in the tank and recirculate it to suspend the sludge.

Don't for get to change the oil filter while the tank is draining, as another slug of oil will drain back in to the tank when you break the seal on the oil filter.

Filling:
I added a small neodymium magnet to the drain plug (can't hurt department) and wrapped on some Teflon tape and put it in. Added oil until it was full, did the charge pump bypass routine to bleed the suction line of air. That took longer than normal, because of the empty suction hose.

The only difficult bit was finding a place to take all of the oil. Most recycling places around here only take 3-5 gallons at a time. I did notice that after ~7 years of use, my 10W40 was noticeably less viscous than new 10W40.

I hope that this helps.

All the best,

Peter

P.S. Several years into the 5W50, I can't say that I notice much of a difference from 10W40, other than being slightly stiffer steering when cold.
 
   / Tank Oil Change
  • Thread Starter
#50  
Apologies to all. Barry pointed out that I hadn't posted the oil change routine, or if I did, neither of us could find it.

Here is how I changed the oil in the tank on my 1445.

Things on hand before starting;

  • 25 gallons of Mobil1 (I used 5W50) synthetic oil. (I got it at Walmart, on sale)
  • 25 one gallon milk jugs for the used oil (Around here, the preferred size for recycling.)
  • One semi rigid dishwasher drain hose, complete with rubber adapter to fit over the drain plug (Lying around, or HD/Lowes)
  • Three 8x8" x 2'
  • An engine oil pan for changing oil to catch the drips
  • Optional: Some hose clamps to clamp the bits of hose together
  • Optional: a spring clamp to hold the end of the hose above the tank to keep from spilling oil. (You can clamp it to the seat.)
  • Optional: One drill type mini pump
  • Optional: if you use the pump, 3' of old garden hose to go from the pump to the milk jugs

First: Put the brakes on! Chock the right side wheels, just in case.

Getting the PT angled:
I put the PT up on 8"x8" blocks on the left side (my drain plug is on the right). I did this by using the FEL to lift the front, and then putting two blocks under the left side of the oil tank, ahead of the rear tire, by lowering the FEL. Raised the FEL. I then had clearance to put one 8x8 under the rear tire. Lowered the FEL and put an 8x8 under the front tire. Time taken, about 1 min. The PT now has an 8" list to starboard, and it helps drain the oil. If you have a nice kerb or berm near where you want to drain it, that would work, too.

Draining:
I wear nitrile gloves, just in case. I then connected the pump to the hoses. I put the engine drain pan under the drain plug, and used a pair of vice grips on an allen wrench to get the plug out. As soon as it was free, I popped the rubber end of dishwasher hose on and put a worm drive hose clamp on it. I spilled a couple of tablespoons of oil. I used a mini pump for the rest, and I then pumped the oil out a gallon at a time.

Having the PT at an angle really made the draining easy and nearly complete. In the end, all but a couple of ounces drained out of the tank. Since the bottom was sludge free in my case, I decided not to add anything else in to try and clean the bottom. If you did, you could use the mini pump to spray your cleaning solution around in the tank and recirculate it to suspend the sludge.

Don't for get to change the oil filter while the tank is draining, as another slug of oil will drain back in to the tank when you break the seal on the oil filter.

Filling:
I added a small neodymium magnet to the drain plug (can't hurt department) and wrapped on some Teflon tape and put it in. Added oil until it was full, did the charge pump bypass routine to bleed the suction line of air. That took longer than normal, because of the empty suction hose.

The only difficult bit was finding a place to take all of the oil. Most recycling places around here only take 3-5 gallons at a time. I did notice that after ~7 years of use, my 10W40 was noticeably less viscous than new 10W40.

I hope that this helps.

All the best,

Peter

P.S. Several years into the 5W50, I can't say that I notice much of a difference from 10W40, other than being slightly stiffer steering when cold.

Thanks Peter for your help... I appreciate it ... Should help make the process a little bit easier ... Good post ..:thumbsup:
 
   / Tank Oil Change #51  
You could probably put a shop vac hose over the oil cap hole (where you pour the oil into the tank) to create negative pressure in the tank. This might help reduce the mess when the drain cap is first removed and you're attempting to put a hose over the drain cap nipple.
 
   / Tank Oil Change
  • Thread Starter
#52  
Thanks Marrt ,

I did the oil change out today thought I would be done, go figure. When I bought the machine the guy had a hose in the box.. I figured it was the air bleeder hose .

Guessing from the large fittings it was a by pass hose you need when moving the machine so you don't damage the pumps.. Guess I'll have to wait until this week call Terry and order a bleeder hose to finish the job.. Bought this little drill pump but it was so slow I just went ahead and removed the hex plug.

Turns out the oil didn't have sludge like I first thought. Turns out it was pretty clean with the exception of I did see some tiny metal specs .. They may have been break in metal from the new drill pump. Thanks for everyone's advice and help. Now on to Synthetic oil change for the Kolher engine. :cool:
 

Attachments

  • IMG_0021.JPG
    IMG_0021.JPG
    251.3 KB · Views: 103
  • IMG_0019.JPG
    IMG_0019.JPG
    235.4 KB · Views: 104
  • IMG_0039.JPG
    IMG_0039.JPG
    205.7 KB · Views: 98
  • IMG_0031.JPG
    IMG_0031.JPG
    226.3 KB · Views: 106
  • IMG_0046.JPG
    IMG_0046.JPG
    160.2 KB · Views: 107
   / Tank Oil Change #53  
One thought, on re-priming the pump afterwards, if you took a air nozzle like you would use to blow off dust and wrapped it in the shop rag or some plastic, you could stick it in the fill hole and slightly pressurize the oil tank to help prime the pump faster.

Aaron Z
 
   / Tank Oil Change #54  
Thanks Marrt ,

I did the oil change out today thought I would be done, go figure. When I bought the machine the guy had a hose in the box.. I figured it was the air bleeder hose .

Guessing from the large fittings it was a by pass hose you need when moving the machine so you don't damage the pumps.. Guess I'll have to wait until this week call Terry and order a bleeder hose to finish the job.. Bought this little drill pump but it was so slow I just went ahead and removed the hex plug.

Turns out the oil didn't have sludge like I first thought. Turns out it was pretty clean with the exception of I did see some tiny metal specs .. They may have been break in metal from the new drill pump. Thanks for everyone's advice and help. Now on to Synthetic oil change for the Kolher engine. :cool:

Doesn't your Kohler call for 30W?
 
   / Tank Oil Change #56  
I think I confused your 40 for the tank and the picture of the 40 with th engine oil change. :laughing:

Anyhow.... good job. :thumbsup:
 
   / Tank Oil Change
  • Thread Starter
#57  
I think I confused your 40 for the tank and the picture of the 40 with th engine oil change. :laughing:

Anyhow.... good job. :thumbsup:

Yeah I should have been more clear in my description ... Appears this is my bleed port and has a threaded nipple.. I have not taken the cap off yet .. Your thoughts do you see any reason why I can't just thread a section of gas hose onto the nipple here to bleed the air out and back into the tank instead of ordering a hose from Power Trac ... May even use a hose clamp ..
 

Attachments

  • IMG_0046.JPG
    IMG_0046.JPG
    160.2 KB · Views: 99
  • IMG_0044.JPG
    IMG_0044.JPG
    181.9 KB · Views: 94
   / Tank Oil Change #58  
I would think any hose that makes an air tight & secure seal will do the trick. Could probably get a hose made at NAPA store too, save on shipping from Tazewell unless you need other things?
 
   / Tank Oil Change #59  
The only reason I have fittings on both ends of my bleeder hose is that it doubles as my tow hose. If I didn't need a tow hose, I'd have just kept the factory-supplied bleeder hose that had just one fitting on one end, and a cut off hose on the other.

As mentioned, I guess when bleeding is you just want an air-tight connection where the hose meets the bleed port, and a hose that's long enough to get the other end submerged in the tank oil.
 

Tractor & Equipment Auctions

Kubota BX25D (A53317)
Kubota BX25D (A53317)
Trailmobile Van Trailer (A56438)
Trailmobile Van...
DRAGON 500 BBL ACID TANK (A58214)
DRAGON 500 BBL...
2024 HURRICANE GF480 - 48" ROTARY DRUM SCREEN (A52706)
2024 HURRICANE...
2020 INTERNATIONAL TANDEM AXLE SLEEPER (A58017)
2020 INTERNATIONAL...
207279 (A52708)
207279 (A52708)
 
Top