Wood vs Pellet heat ???

/ Wood vs Pellet heat ??? #21  
1514975346086.jpegmy glass is dirty, but here is the glow of my pellet stove right now. Really pretty when the glass is clean. I normally clean it when i clean stove, but being sick, it didnt get cleaned last time. The nice thing about this harman stove, is it has a large ash pan, new pellets being feed in pushes the ashes over the edge of firebox into pan below. Clean out once a month.

My first lowbudget pellet stove you had to pull ashes out of firebox daily, had a small ash pan. I have it in garage now, for occasional heat. It also didnt have an ignitor. My harman is fully automatic. I want another for my basement.
 
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/ Wood vs Pellet heat ??? #22  
Thomas, you mention you have a wood furnace. Is it connected to a forced air duct system? If so, you might consider a furnace such as the Kuuma Vapor-Fire:

The Best Wood Burning Furnaces In The World - KUUMA

or Max Caddy:

Max Caddy | Wood furnaces | Caddy Furnaces

The MaxCaddy is interesting because it has options for wood-only, wood+electric, wood+oil or wood+oil+electric.

I helped my neighbour research furnaces for his new 3,000 sq. ft. a few years ago. He went with the MaxCadddy wood+electric and is very pleased with it. I heat our house with an old(installed in 1981) RSF wood furnace/electric furnace combination which works well but is not near as efficient as the MaxCaddy.

The MaxCaddy has six blower speeds whereas mine has one. I figure it is at least 25% more efficient than my wood furnace (which is more or less a big burn chamber surrounded by a metal shroud). The wood fire in my neighbour's furnace looks like it is burning gas (like the modern wood stoves). Mine is somewhere between that and an enclosed campfire. Wood burning appliances have come a long way.

That said, we really like our old wood furnace compared to the electric furnace because it provides a much more even heat compared to the on/off cycles of the electric furnace. We heat 95% with wood and normally just use the electric for morning warmups during cool spring or fall mornings. The wood and electric furnaces have separate thermostats which can be operated together. If you set the electric lower than the wood, the wood furnace will do all the heating and when the wood fire dies down the electric will take over. But we mostly leave our electric thermostat "off".

Although not as effective, our furnace will heat the house during power outages. It has removable bottom panels which allow air circulation by convection.

Our wood furnace thermostat controls the fire's intake air and it either full-on or full-off. That can be a problem. If there is a lot of wood and the intake is open for a long time the furnace can get hot. Another switch on the furnace shroud will then turn the intake air off until it cools a bit. Another problem can occur when adding wood if the thermostat is calling for heat but the room temperature is near the thermostat setting. The fire can raise the room temperature and the thermostat will shut off the air before the wood is completely going. The wood smoulders on a bed of coals and the burn chamber fills with smoke. When the room finally cools and calls for more heat it opens the furnace air. That can cause a smoke explosion as the flames start back up and some smoke escapes through the chimney pipe joints and chimnney damper. That does not happen now but it took us a few years to figure out how to run the furnace.

The Kuuma vapor-fire appears to have a good solution for this problem as seen in this video:

Kuuma Vapor-Fire Furnace Operational Video - YouTube Note: edited to correct this link.

I have considered upgrading my furnace to a MaxCaddy but likely will not do it because of the cost and my existing setup works fine.

Next to the better comfort of the wood furnace over our electric furnace I like getting the wood. I am retired and fortunate to have a ready supply of free wood. My favourite job is cutting logs in the bush. If I wasn't cutting firewood I'd still be in the bush much of the time. But it was not that way 15 years ago when I did not have time because I was working.

Good luck in your search for a new heating appliance.
 
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/ Wood vs Pellet heat ??? #23  
We burned wood all my life, in my late 40's, we bought a house with an Englander pellet stove. That stove would run 20 bags of pellets in between cleanings, with no clinkers because it's bottom feed. I prefer wood because of the quiet, and control, but pellets are waaaaay easier.
 
/ Wood vs Pellet heat ??? #24  
Pellet stoves are the lazy mans wood stove:D
 
/ Wood vs Pellet heat ??? #25  
We have a Harmon pellet stove. Absolutely flawless and maintenance is easy. No more wood stoves for us.

I think my dog also approves ;)

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/ Wood vs Pellet heat ??? #26  
Why not corn stoves? Corn is cheap and readily available. Easy to handle and can be fully automated like pellet stoves.
 
/ Wood vs Pellet heat ??? #27  
Why not corn stoves? Corn is cheap and readily available. Easy to handle and can be fully automated like pellet stoves.
The neighbor gets a wagon of corn for helping the farmer harvesting the crop. He just fills 5gal buckets from the wagon chute to fill the burner.
 
/ Wood vs Pellet heat ??? #28  
Why not corn stoves? Corn is cheap and readily available. Easy to handle and can be fully automated like pellet stoves.

Stacks of wood are high rises for critters to make nests in.... Corn feeds and draws them like flies ...... :)
 
/ Wood vs Pellet heat ??? #29  
Stacks of wood are high rises for critters to make nests in.... Corn feeds and draws them like flies ...... :)

Not a problem if you have an old gravity wagon that they cannot climb up. And as Ruffdog stated - 5 gallon buckets make it easy to transport and handle.
 
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Why not corn stoves? Corn is cheap and readily available.

Never heard of that before. Must be a midwest thing. Seems like you'd need some sort of enclosed steel bin to store it in so rats/mice/squirrels/whatever don't get into it.

Is it some special kind of corn that's not gonna get all moldy?
 
/ Wood vs Pellet heat ??? #31  
All corn stoves not too popular. The corn has to be below a certain moisture level, so has to be dried good. Some stoves allow you to mix corn with pellets.
 
/ Wood vs Pellet heat ??? #32  
I have not run my pellet stove - Welenco Pellet Master - in about twenty years. It just sits there looking pretty. Its designed to burn just about anything - wood pellets, olive pits, corn, wheat, barley and coal. Since I live in wheat country - I tried it. Wheat burns pretty good but uses about 2X more wheat than wood pellets. Which actually isn't that bad but you have to clean out the stove more often - wheat produces an awful lot of ash.

I was going to try coal but the dealer threw a BIG caution into that idea. Coal puts out enough "vapors & ash" that it will turn everything in the house sooty black.
 
/ Wood vs Pellet heat ??? #33  
Some folks burn cherry pits too, they actually burn quite well...

SR
 
/ Wood vs Pellet heat ??? #34  
The corn stove alternative goes back to "use what's readily available". In my world corn is cheap and readily available. Hesitation such as critter control, molding corn, etc., are from those not familiar with corn. For example, the corn flakes you eat in the morning,,,, you think they are made from fresh corn???? That corn may have been in the storage facility for years. :)
 
/ Wood vs Pellet heat ??? #35  
I thought about getting a corn stove, and growing corn for it, but thought it would be too much work for me.
 
/ Wood vs Pellet heat ??? #36  
I thought about getting a corn stove, and growing corn for it, but thought it would be too much work for me.

I wouldn't suggest that. Too much labor involved in growing/harvesting. Today corn is $2.75 at the local elevator. Totally not worth the effort of trying to grow what you need. Just buy it. This will also ensure it's dry so no worries about molding in storage. The corn you buy is taken out of a gigantic bin. It's not going to mold or it already would have. :)
 
/ Wood vs Pellet heat ??? #37  
I was going to try coal but the dealer threw a BIG caution into that idea. Coal puts out enough "vapors & ash" that it will turn everything in the house sooty black.[/QUOTE]

I don't know were he got that from, I burn coal in a Hitzer insert, that is hard coal anthracite, coal does need air from under the fire and can be difficult to get started,
I lite mine off in mid Nov and it hasn't gone out since then. I get almost no vapors in the house and no soot. The ash does have a lot of fines that are very light and will
dust up the garage if I'm not carefull.
 
/ Wood vs Pellet heat ??? #38  
As a side note, can you have a wood stove fire and every now and then toss in a couple of scoops of pellets?
 
/ Wood vs Pellet heat ??? #39  
As a side note, can you have a wood stove fire and every now and then toss in a couple of scoops of pellets?
Yes, but it would seem to be a waste.
 
/ Wood vs Pellet heat ??? #40  
As a side note, can you have a wood stove fire and every now and then toss in a couple of scoops of pellets?

Why would you? Pellets are expensive and wood is cheap. I don’t think pellet stoves are cheaper than gas but that’s another issue.
 

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