stupid question - bucket removal

/ stupid question - bucket removal #21  
I have one pin that goes in hard but isn’t too bad to open. Sounds like yours is worse, I’d take a file or die grinder to the bucket opening on the hard side and just take a little off until it feels like the other. A hand file will let you do a few thousands at a time so you won’t take too much off.
 
/ stupid question - bucket removal #22  
I had just picked up the bucket and had it tilted back against the stops and the pins would not drop in. Usually take a pry bar and move it over a little. Pry bar was not handy so I just gave it a shove and the bucket popped off.

Happened on Nov 4 still in a cast. Doctor thought I might loose some toes but it has been healing good. Looked much better at last checkup. Another 2-3 weeks and hopefully I will be off the darn crutches.
 
/ stupid question - bucket removal #23  
Doofy - not sure I want to go making any changes just yet, even if it is a slight shave or so.

Looking4new - yeah, a pipe would probably be smarter than banging. thanks

rlgustafson - tractor is new. About 20 hours on it and I've pretty much had this problem all along. Nothing else in on the bucket and the pallet forks I have I can get on and off with no trouble. Because of storage i usually have to store the tractor with the bucket on the forks so every time I'm done with it, i have to take the bucket off and put the forks back on.

Davis- thanks for the safety reminder and real sorry you had to go through that!

I'm pretty sure everything is lined up properly but I'll take a closer look next time and also look for ware. It goes on with no trouble. I found a picture on my phone from the last time I tried taking it off. That is the height and the angle I was trying.

Everything looks good in the picture so I am guessing that the slots that the latch pins fit into are not perfectly aligned or milled-out correctly. Take a look at the slots with the latch pins engaged and see if it appears that way to you. I agree with some of the others....use a file or rotary tool and see if you can shave the slots slightly bigger....just enough to allow smooth operation of the latches. Normally the slots are made to allow for some play from side to side to accommodate slight differences in aligning the bucket. They are not load bearing and simply serve to allow the latch pin to pass through and engage the SSQC.
 
/ stupid question - bucket removal #24  
I had just picked up the bucket and had it tilted back against the stops and the pins would not drop in. Usually take a pry bar and move it over a little. Pry bar was not handy so I just gave it a shove and the bucket popped off.

Happened on Nov 4 still in a cast. Doctor thought I might loose some toes but it has been healing good. Looked much better at last checkup. Another 2-3 weeks and hopefully I will be off the darn crutches.

My best wishes to you for a full recovery. I really feel for you.
 
/ stupid question - bucket removal #25  
I didn't see any grease fittings near the pins...Are there any? Grease is cheap and your best friend.
 
/ stupid question - bucket removal #26  
I had just picked up the bucket and had it tilted back against the stops and the pins would not drop in. Usually take a pry bar and move it over a little. Pry bar was not handy so I just gave it a shove and the bucket popped off.

Happened on Nov 4 still in a cast. Doctor thought I might loose some toes but it has been healing good. Looked much better at last checkup. Another 2-3 weeks and hopefully I will be off the darn crutches.

Best of luck with your healing, glad all is going well. Looks like you were very lucky not to lose those little piggies.
 
/ stupid question - bucket removal #27  
Doofy - not sure I want to go making any changes just yet, even if it is a slight shave or so.

Looking4new - yeah, a pipe would probably be smarter than banging. thanks

rlgustafson - tractor is new. About 20 hours on it and I've pretty much had this problem all along. Nothing else in on the bucket and the pallet forks I have I can get on and off with no trouble. Because of storage i usually have to store the tractor with the bucket on the forks so every time I'm done with it, i have to take the bucket off and put the forks back on.

Davis- thanks for the safety reminder and real sorry you had to go through that!

I'm pretty sure everything is lined up properly but I'll take a closer look next time and also look for ware. It goes on with no trouble. I found a picture on my phone from the last time I tried taking it off. That is the height and the angle I was trying.

First step would be to figure out exactly what the hang up is. Maybe a better light or better eyes would help. Shouldn't be anything to serious or complicated.
 
/ stupid question - bucket removal #28  
I had just picked up the bucket and had it tilted back against the stops and the pins would not drop in. Usually take a pry bar and move it over a little. Pry bar was not handy so I just gave it a shove and the bucket popped off.

Happened on Nov 4 still in a cast. Doctor thought I might loose some toes but it has been healing good. Looked much better at last checkup. Another 2-3 weeks and hopefully I will be off the darn crutches.

I’m thinking that the upper flanges on your FEL were not fully in the receiving area on your bucket. If they were, pushing laterally on the bucket would not let it fall off. Think about it?

Line up.
Move forward.
Lift.
Curl back.
Rotate lock arms.

Get to work!
 
/ stupid question - bucket removal #29  
Doofy - not sure I want to go making any changes just yet, even if it is a slight shave or so.

Looking4new - yeah, a pipe would probably be smarter than banging. thanks

rlgustafson - tractor is new. About 20 hours on it and I've pretty much had this problem all along. Nothing else in on the bucket and the pallet forks I have I can get on and off with no trouble. Because of storage i usually have to store the tractor with the bucket on the forks so every time I'm done with it, i have to take the bucket off and put the forks back on.

Davis- thanks for the safety reminder and real sorry you had to go through that!

I'm pretty sure everything is lined up properly but I'll take a closer look next time and also look for ware. It goes on with no trouble. I found a picture on my phone from the last time I tried taking it off. That is the height and the angle I was trying.

Looking at your picture, your bucket is offset right by an inch or two. The slots on bucket allow for some mis-alignment but, you may be outside of that range.

Try this;

Align your SSQD as close as you can see.
Curl SSQD forward of vertical.
Lift, a few inches, to engage bucket, visually assure that upper SSQA ears are fully engaged in upper flanges on your bucket.
Curl back.
Check centering of bucket.
Use a pry bar, if needed to center bucket. Please don’t have your feet, or anything else, under bucket.
Try rotating lock arms.
If difficult, note which one or if both.
Raise bucket high enough to see lock pins relationship with bucket lower slots.
If you see obvious interference with slots and bucket is truly centered, you have two choices.

Get dealer to resolve this.

Or

As others have noted, remove some metal in slots in appropriate places to give your pins room to engage fully.

Trust me this should not be as hard as it’s been for you.

Let us know how above works for you. We’re all here to make your life easier.
 
/ stupid question - bucket removal #30  
Doofy - not sure I want to go making any changes just yet, even if it is a slight shave or so.

Looking4new - yeah, a pipe would probably be smarter than banging. thanks

rlgustafson - tractor is new. About 20 hours on it and I've pretty much had this problem all along. Nothing else in on the bucket and the pallet forks I have I can get on and off with no trouble. Because of storage i usually have to store the tractor with the bucket on the forks so every time I'm done with it, i have to take the bucket off and put the forks back on.

Davis- thanks for the safety reminder and real sorry you had to go through that!

I'm pretty sure everything is lined up properly but I'll take a closer look next time and also look for ware. It goes on with no trouble. I found a picture on my phone from the last time I tried taking it off. That is the height and the angle I was trying.

Not that it makes a difference on the release pins but compared to my loader release handles yours are bent back. I sometimes have a problem when I disengage an attachment the levers seem to go over center and the round latching pins come out of the holes and cock sidewise. I've learned not to let the handle over center. Pics attached of yours and mine.
 

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/ stupid question - bucket removal #31  
Not that it makes a difference on the release pins but compared to my loader release handles yours are bent back. I sometimes have a problem when I disengage an attachment the levers seem to go over center and the round latching pins come out of the holes and cock sidewise. I've learned not to let the handle over center. Pics attached of yours and mine.

Wow! Handles in photo #1 really do look bent. It really changes the angle of release.
 
/ stupid question - bucket removal #32  
Wow! Handles in photo #1 really do look bent. It really changes the angle of release.

Might be first clue of problem?

Internet shots of same loader. Note that end of the lock arms are parallel with back of bucket.

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If OP’s arms have always been this way, a visit to Dealer is in order.
 
/ stupid question - bucket removal #33  
Yes, those bent arms would not allow very much leverage for the pin release. Give the Dealer a call...
 
/ stupid question - bucket removal #34  
I have the opposite problem with my bucket, but not on the pallet forks. Both come off easy. But hooking the bucket back up by myself is really hard. The left side handle just drops on it's own before I can get the arms in place. Seems like it will stay up just fine, but as soon as I get back to the seat, plop, left handle is in down position.

I don't switch all that much so no big deal. Assuming I can just tighten some bolts on the handle to give a little more friction so the handle stays in the up and unlocked position until I move it. Otherwise, bungee....

But would the opposite help OP any? Could he loosen a tiny little bit for more free play?
 
/ stupid question - bucket removal #35  
I have the opposite problem with my bucket, but not on the pallet forks. Both come off easy. But hooking the bucket back up by myself is really hard. The left side handle just drops on it's own before I can get the arms in place. Seems like it will stay up just fine, but as soon as I get back to the seat, plop, left handle is in down position.

I don't switch all that much so no big deal. Assuming I can just tighten some bolts on the handle to give a little more friction so the handle stays in the up and unlocked position until I move it. Otherwise, bungee....

But would the opposite help OP any? Could he loosen a tiny little bit for more free play?

Certainly a loose bolt in your situation.

the handles should stay in place when lifted, I also noticed I had a loose bolt so I took a quick video of it and tightened it down.
Loose bolt on LS SSQA loader. - YouTube
 
/ stupid question - bucket removal #36  
Thanks for the video. Yours looked just as free after tightening, but might be more of a feel thing which the video can't capture.

I don't really let my tractor just sit at low RPM idle, but it does have lots of vibration in the lower RPM range. I've already shaken lost the warning triangle, the oil dipstick won't stay fully seated even with a bungee, indicator lights on ROPS brackets keep coming loose, and this lever has loosened up. Really has me concerned something much more important is shaking loose.
 
/ stupid question - bucket removal #37  
Thanks for the video. Yours looked just as free after tightening, but might be more of a feel thing which the video can't capture.

I don't really let my tractor just sit at low RPM idle, but it does have lots of vibration in the lower RPM range. I've already shaken lost the warning triangle, the oil dipstick won't stay fully seated even with a bungee, indicator lights on ROPS brackets keep coming loose, and this lever has loosened up. Really has me concerned something much more important is shaking loose.

Wow....I have 300 hrs on my tractor, none of these issues, and no vibrations at low or high rpm. Sounds like you may have a serious issue. Definitely need to have this checked out before anything worse happens. Don't want to sound like an alarmist, but vibrations bad enough to cause these issues need to be fixed asap.
 
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/ stupid question - bucket removal #38  
Wow....I have 300 hrs on my tractor, none of these issues, and no vibrations at low or high rpm. Sounds like you may have a serious issue. Definitely need to have this checked out before anything worse happens. Don't want to sound like an alarmist, but vibrations bad enough to cause these issues need to be fixed asap.

Agree, talk to your dealer. Somethings not right?
 
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#39  
Thanks for all the feed back!! It's definitely been a pain since day one and I didn't really even use it that day. It was delivered just before dark and i drove it around a little and then went to swap the bucket for the pallet fork to put the tractor away. I'm getting a ratchet rake tomorrow so I hope to try it out in the next day or two. Might be delayed as we just had baby #3 and they are coming home tomorrow as well. I'll take better pictures, both of the pins and were they set locking in the bucket.
 
/ stupid question - bucket removal #40  
I do not have any problems with my Global QA, but my son has the SSQA and that had that same issue. I sprayed all the SSQA parts with Fluid Film. No more problems. Smooth as butter.
 

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