Your towing rigs and trailers

   / Your towing rigs and trailers #2,861  
View attachment 529632One more photo. The trailer has a adjustable dump gate that can spread gravel amazingly even. I was giddy while pouring my driveway. Sorry the image is sideways. I don't know how to rotate it in the post.

It is topside up when opened in a new tab. :thumbsup:

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   / Your towing rigs and trailers #2,862  
The trailer is 6'x12' with a 12k overall capacity. I purchased it new for $6000. What sold me on the trailer was the 10 guage steel bed with break formed sides instead of welds. I recently applied 3m plastic film to protect the powdercoat from rock chips thrown from the truck while towing. It's a pretty trailer. It will live a pampered life.
Nice. I would not be able to use it enough to justify it. But that could probably be said about most of my stuff.
 
   / Your towing rigs and trailers #2,863  
I installed a Gear Vendors overdrive, but had a very bad harmonic vibration at 55mph and 70mph that I could not solve. The gear vendors unit was solid and loved it, but could not deal with the vibration drone noise through out the truck. I worked with gear vendors engineers for months, trying to solve the issue.
I returned the unit after trying many things.

My OEM driveline came with a rubber vibration dampener that Gear Vendors swore I did not need, but im pretty sure it would have solved the problem. I may try the gear vendors again, and have a driveline made with the rubber dampener, because I need a gear splitter when towing the fully loaded dump trailer. That sucker gets heavy!
If it was a big steel weight with a rubber isolator, you do need it. It was there to change the mass of the driveline, which changes the resonant frequency. After removing it, you found the resonant frequency to be in the range you used it. If you can't fix a problem change when it happens!

You can also try filling the driveshaft with spray foam and have it balanced.

Another possibility is the angle of your u joints having been changed, but that would be more of a vibration.
 
   / Your towing rigs and trailers #2,864  
If it was a big steel weight with a rubber isolator, you do need it. It was there to change the mass of the driveline, which changes the resonant frequency. After removing it, you found the resonant frequency to be in the range you used it. If you can't fix a problem change when it happens!

You can also try filling the driveshaft with spray foam and have it balanced.

Another possibility is the angle of your u joints having been changed, but that would be more of a vibration.

Yes it was a big steel round weight with rubber isolator. Gear vendors engineers were insistent that the damper was not needed. I know dodge put it there for a reason. The driveline was made by Drivelines NW in Washington, and has an excellent reputation. Drivelines NW tirelessly worked with me trying to resolve the issue. The last resort was to custom build a dampener that would work with the gear vendors, but was too cost prohibitive with all the other cost I had incurred. I gave up.

I will say, the concept of splitting gears and having an over-overdrive was awesome. The gear vendors quality and how it shifted was perfect. I really wish I could have resolved the overall truck vibration problem.
 
   / Your towing rigs and trailers #2,865  
I will say, the concept of splitting gears and having an over-overdrive was awesome. The gear vendors quality and how it shifted was perfect. I really wish I could have resolved the overall truck vibration problem.

Too bad that didn't work out.

A lottery-win daydream of mine is building split rear-ends for light trucks. Most of the personal light diesels (3/4ton+) I see running around here are empty/no trailer most of the time. Pretty sure you don't really need much of 900ft# to cruise down the highway in an empty truck.

(Not to take anything away from GVendors..... they have a great reputation, and many happy customers......).

Automatics have roughly tripled in gear count in my lifetime; so they have gotten better........ given choice/budget to play with, I prefer stick though.....

Rgds, D.
 
   / Your towing rigs and trailers #2,866  
You don't put the jack directly on the scale, you use a 4 foot piece of 4x4 with the scale on one end and a pivot at the other (and a piece of pipe between the scale and the wood and another between the pivot and the wood). If you put the jack 1 foot in from pivot and 3 feet from the bathroom scale, 100# as displayed on the scale is 400# of tongue weight.
See: Determining Trailer Tongue Weight | etrailer.com
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Aaron Z

Excellent post!
The 4x4 can be even longer, for greater tongue weights.
Perhaps folks who discounted the idea, will now understand, from the graphics in your post.
This procedure is really only meaningful when your new load is very different from any other load, and positioning, that you have previously checked for tongue weight.
If you carry the same tractor, and/or implements in the same/similar location on your trailer every time, checking the tongue weight each time is unnecessary.
If you are towing at highway speeds (on slippery roads?), having the proper percentage of load as tongue weight, will most definitely contribute to towing safety.

Other important trailer issues:

Tire pressures, tire age, tread wear, sidewall condition.

Electric brake controller operation.

Emergency break-away battery condition (frequently ignored)

Wheel bearings repacked (frequently ignored)

Lights all operating.

Safety chains crossed, and in good condition.

Weight distribution hitch ......a very good idea.
 
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   / Your towing rigs and trailers #2,867  
View attachment 529632One more photo. The trailer has a adjustable dump gate that can spread gravel amazingly even. I was giddy while pouring my driveway. Sorry the image is sideways. I don't know how to rotate it in the post.

Looks like a carpet...

Had a great Mom and Pop with dump truck company... I would call and he would tailgate spread to perfection... sadly, he passed away and never have found anyone near as good...

Olympia WA
 
   / Your towing rigs and trailers #2,868  
I'd like a 2 speed rear end in my powerhouse 6.5. With a new duramax making 3 times the torque it's probably a waste of time.
 
   / Your towing rigs and trailers #2,869  
I had an 04 Dodge with a Cummins. Rust and a bad drive line vibration finally drove me out of the truck. I also had 4.10 gears. I always felt it was my driveshaft also. It wasn’t the front one because i pulled it with no change. It wasn’t tires because they had been replaced. It seems to be a common problem on the Cummins forums. I think the heavy drive line behind the Cummins torque adds to the problem. To bad because I liked the truck a lot.
 
   / Your towing rigs and trailers #2,870  
I had an 04 Dodge with a Cummins. Rust and a bad drive line vibration finally drove me out of the truck. I also had 4.10 gears. I always felt it was my driveshaft also. It wasn’t the front one because i pulled it with no change. It wasn’t tires because they had been replaced. It seems to be a common problem on the Cummins forums. I think the heavy drive line behind the Cummins torque adds to the problem. To bad because I liked the truck a lot.
You can field balance a drive shaft with a hose clamp or two. It is actually pretty easy if you have access to a highway and a convenient place to pull off and slide under the truck to rotate the clamp head until you find the sweet spot.
 

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