L3200/3800/3301/3901 Rear Hydraulic Remotes Install Corrections/Hints

[Bigshooter81]

Yep, I thought of that alteration. I did that to my trans range lever on my Kubota to make it more accessible.

In your case, this moves the knob forward. Will it now be too far forward for comfortable use when lowered??

Glad they found a solution. Hope it is a good one.

With all that said,,,, it disappoints me that Kubota sells a system that doesn't work. Especially in something so simple as lever location.

Considering it is a "factory" kit, that is overpriced for what it is, considering the install instructions are crap and mine had the wrong hardware.

I bought factory for the fit and finish, and didn't get that at all.

Well, i suppose the hoses are decent.

:/

 

[Luke'sScreenName]

Considering it is a "factory" kit, that is overpriced for what it is, considering the install instructions are crap and mine had the wrong hardware.

I bought factory for the fit and finish, and didn't get that at all.

Well, i suppose the hoses are decent.

:/

Yup. Not good enough.

 

[ovrszd]

Have to agree, such simple things to produce properly and are missed. This happens will ALL the different manufacturers on simple things as these control levers. I have come to the conclusion that most of the time it is simple due to the people designing are just that, designers and not end users.

I have pointed similar type things out to factory reps, as to why is this like this on one tractor and different on the next when the better way of doing it is actually less money. Again, I believe it is because they simply do not know or understand because they are not end users.

To the OP, I hope it all works out to your satisfaction. :thumbsup:

Well stated Brian. I totally agree. Pretty sad though. You and I feel a personal responsibility to do it right. These people do not. They just want paid.....

 

[ovrszd]

Considering it is a "factory" kit, that is overpriced for what it is, considering the install instructions are crap and mine had the wrong hardware.

I bought factory for the fit and finish, and didn't get that at all.

Well, i suppose the hoses are decent.

:/

I'm a "factory fit and finish" guy too. I added two rear remotes, FEL 3rd function, and dual PTO to my M9540. All with Whole Goods Kubota kits. I did that to get quality, easy to use systems. I paid a premium price. In my case I received quality products and have no regrets at all.

Sorry your situation has not been the same.

 

[Fallon]

I had to bend my levers as well. Mine was a custom install with FitRite parts. So I had to fab my brackets & levers. Nice joystick for TnT & another lever for the 3rd function.

Really happy with the setup, the parts & learned a lot engineering it.

 

[BCrouse]

I got the tractor back today. Of course its raining.

Here is what the dealer did to fix the interference issue

No "from the seat" shots yet. Hopefully later.

 

[JRobyn]

Maybe I'll have to do that to my L4330 if I ever get around to installing all of mine. Removing/moving those filled rears has me a bit spooked!

I agree with Brian that something like this shouldn't happen with proper design fortified by actual installation and use by end users. Which is why I'm doubly disappointed in this - the "kit" involved should be no different than the actual production parts used on tractors that are supplied from the factory with the rear remotes already installed. So am I to understand that in all the L3301 tractors sold with factory installed remotes, NO ONE has previously complained about this poor design and prompted a correction?

 

[MtnViewRanch]

Maybe I'll have to do that to my L4330 if I ever get around to installing all of mine. Removing/moving those filled rears has me a bit spooked!

I agree with Brian that something like this shouldn't happen with proper design fortified by actual installation and use by end users. Which is why I'm doubly disappointed in this - the "kit" involved should be no different than the actual production parts used on tractors that are supplied from the factory with the rear remotes already installed. So am I to understand that in all the L3301 tractors sold with factory installed remotes, NO ONE has previously complained about this poor design and prompted a correction?

My guess is YES. No complaint has made it past the dealer level. I have no doubt that the irritated customers get, "That's just the way it is". :confused3:

I have tried several times to point out design flaws and even suggest remedies that are most cost effective at AG shows. The factory reps are all interested until the word problem is heard. Typically the response that I get is a turned back and they walk away. I have yet been asked, "How can we fix this?" or told "We are aware of the problem." Everyone wants a pat on the back and be told how great their product is and there is nothing wrong with that, but nothing is perfect and there is almost always room for improvement and a lot of the time that improvement doesn't need to cost any more $$$ than what they are currently spending.

So with that type of mind set, it's not a wonder as to why things are the way that they are.

Just my experiences.

 

[BCrouse]

My guess is YES. No complaint has made it past the dealer level. I have no doubt that the irritated customers get, "That's just the way it is". :confused3:

I have tried several times to point out design flaws and even suggest remedies that are most cost effective at AG shows. The factory reps are all interested until the word problem is heard. Typically the response that I get is a turned back and they walk away. I have yet been asked, "How can we fix this?" or told "We are aware of the problem." Everyone wants a pat on the back and be told how great their product is and there is nothing wrong with that, but nothing is perfect and there is almost always room for improvement and a lot of the time that improvement doesn't need to cost any more $$$ than what they are currently spending.

So with that type of mind set, it's not a wonder as to why things are the way that they are.

Just my experiences.

Well hopefully the fact I had my dealer involved and they had their kubota rep involved, might provide at least one data point for kubota. That, or ive been labeled a "picky customer". =]

 

[ovrszd]

That's a workable fix. By offsetting the 3pt lever they put the lateral problem we discussed earlier on one lever rather than three. I like that much better than shortening and moving forward.

 

[BCrouse]

That's a workable fix. By offsetting the 3pt lever they put the lateral problem we discussed earlier on one lever rather than three. I like that much better than shortening and moving forward.

I agree. Theres also a sheath on the 3pt lever thats close to the fender. Which is a nice touch.

 

[BCrouse]

View from the seat. I had enough time to back the tractor into the garage today.

 

[ovrszd]

Nice. Very clean.

Sad that a dealer had to make that alteration to fix corporate's stupid design.......

I have NO faith that Kubota will address this. Problem is a very small percentage of that model is sold with triple rear remotes. No motivation for them to make it right. If they were going to make it right you would be receiving a recall notice to replace the 3pt lever with something similar to your Dealer's solution.

Glad it got resolved!!!

 

[BCrouse]

Nice. Very clean.

Sad that a dealer had to make that alteration to fix corporate's stupid design.......

I have NO faith that Kubota will address this. Problem is a very small percentage of that model is sold with triple rear remotes. No motivation for them to make it right. If they were going to make it right you would be receiving a recall notice to replace the 3pt lever with something similar to your Dealer's solution.

Glad it got resolved!!!

I agree. It seems way more functional than the original. That said, I haven't done anything with it yet. BUT I'm not sure what else they can do. Corp put them in a bad spot.

I cant imagine too many L series have 3 remotes. When I was figuring how many id use, if I am using 2 for TnT I might want one more for something else. Can always find a use.

When I was looking at doing it myself or costing out with the dealer, the dealer cost for 3 installed with the factory parts was not all that much more than doing it myself with non-Kubota parts.




Now to replenish funds and get a TnT setup for it. =]

 

[s219]

Did you ever resolve this? I seem to have the same issue....

View from the seat

It clears (barely)if you push it all the way driver side in the track.

It looks like Kubota took a step backward with these kits, at least in terms of the levers. My L3200/3800 kit has a shorter throw slot for lever #3 (which was labeled lever #1 on my kit) and they don't allow float or detent valves for that position. Clearly they knew the lever couldn't move forward because of the existing 3-pt lever, so they limited the throw. I guess whoever setup the kit for the L3301/3901 didn't notice that constraint. It's even more odd because the hydraulics on the tractors are all near identical, so the L3200/3800 kit could have carried over unchanged. Somebody missed the boat on this one big time. Whatever corporate knowledge they had from designing the older kit clearly didn't make it over to the newer kit. Just stupid.

 

[ovrszd]

Bcrouse, I have 3 on my Kubota and use them all. Have 2 on the Ford and wish for a 3rd.

Will admit I've never wanted 4 on the Kubota.

 

[JRobyn]

I suppose it would accomplish the same thing if the 3-pt lever was BENT with a big S-bend, but it looks stout enough that it would need to be removed and heated and then re-painted to make that so.

 

[lennyzx11]

I had to bend my levers as well. Mine was a custom install with FitRite parts. So I had to fab my brackets & levers. Nice joystick for TnT & another lever for the 3rd function.

Really happy with the setup, the parts & learned a lot engineering it.

Fallon, way back from the past.
Do you remember what joystick you used for this TnT setup on your 3800?

 

[Fallon]

Fallon, way back from the past.
Do you remember what joystick you used for this TnT setup on your 3800?

L3200, not that there is any difference. It was a Butcher valve I got from MtnViewRanch at Fit Rite Hydraulics - fitritehydraulics.com.

 

[lennyzx11]

L3200, not that there is any difference. It was a Butcher valve I got from MtnViewRanch at Fit Rite Hydraulics - fitritehydraulics.com.

I knew that (3200).
I had a quote from Brian last year but didn't realize he had the joystick.

Do you have a pic or link of your setup?
I did try searching but it came up with a lot of unrelated hits.
Lenny