Need help figuring out barn extension

[petebert]

Yes the builders of this barn just nailed the beams to the posts. I've been adding bearing blocks.

 

[downsizingnow48]

That will help. You might also consider either through bolts or heavy duty structural screws to make sure those 2x12s stay tight against the post.

 

[EddieWalker]

View attachment 516919 bottom cut, full board still supports weight.

View attachment 516920top cut, uncut part of board supports all weight, cut half part, if unsupported, carries no weight.

Perfect!!! I did a quick google search, but couldn't find anything like this. Your drawing explains it better then I could with a thousand words!!!

 

[petebert]

Finally got some other projects out of the way to hopefully get this one going.

1. How do I get the nails out of the siding if I plan on reusing the existing siding? How about a big pair of nippers and cut the heads off? Probably took me an hour today to just get two rows of nails out so I could peel back the siding enough to peek underneath. First I took a flathead screwdriver to dig the rubber grommet off then I could get my hammer to fit around the head, most of the time..

2. Here's how it looks. Looks like I've got about 6.5" of header under the soffit, 5.5" if you only count the exposed wood portion. I was thinking of butting up a 2nd board underneath the existing header. I'd use rafter hangars with the hangar nailed to both the existing and to the new board underneath

!!!

 

[RippySkippy]

I would use a pair of hoof nippers if you have them. If you're going to save the tin hold a prybar under the pivot point. Not necessarily these, but something like them.

 

[jcummins]

I would use a pair of hoof nippers if you have them. If you're going to save the tin hold a prybar under the pivot point. Not necessarily these, but something like them.

View attachment 525263

You need this.

 

[downsizingnow48]

H.K. Porter makes a flush cut (flat blade) bolt cutter that I have used for similar jobs. The Amazon price is about $27.

http://www.armstrongtools.com/h-k-p...sh-cut-blades-and-plastic-dipped-handles.html

 

[petebert]

Just picturing it in my head I don't think the bolt cutters would work well. When I looked it up earlier I saw the hoof nippers and thought the design looked pretty good but wasn't sure if they were strong enough since they're made for hooves.

Why hoof nippers and not bolt cutters? You need something that will cut flush to the siding. You've got about 1/16" of clearance and I don't see bolt cutters having enough room. Although looking at those bolt cutters, I see they have a flat side and a diagonal blade, so that might work to catch the nail head.

Here's what a hoof nipper head looks like and why the shape is perfect, but again I question the strength of those to cut say, 300 nail heads off.

Here's what nippers looks like that aren't advertised as hoof nippers.

 

[farm boy00]

Just picturing it in my head I don't think the bolt cutters would work well. When I looked it up earlier I saw the hoof nippers and thought the design looked pretty good but wasn't sure if they were strong enough since they're made for hooves.

Why hoof nippers and not bolt cutters? You need something that will cut flush to the siding. You've got about 1/16" of clearance and I don't see bolt cutters having enough room. Although looking at those bolt cutters, I see they have a flat side and a diagonal blade, so that might work to catch the nail head.

Here's what a hoof nipper head looks like and why the shape is perfect, but again I question the strength of those to cut say, 300 nail heads off.

Here's what nippers looks like that aren't advertised as hoof nippers.

Have done this proccess of cutting the nail heads. Hoof cutters are too weak. Use the ones that look like them with the blue handles

 

[EddieWalker]

I'd use my 4.5 inch grinder with a cut off wheel on the nail heads.


Are you taking all of the siding off? Can you install another beam under the existing one?

 

[petebert]

Yes I was going to completely remove all off the siding and then reuse it for the walls on the extension.

 

[two_bit_score]

H.K. Porter makes a flush cut (flat blade) bolt cutter that I have used for similar jobs. The Amazon price is about $27.

http://www.armstrongtools.com/h-k-p...sh-cut-blades-and-plastic-dipped-handles.html

Those might work. Regular end nippers or hoof nippers won't cut nails. Knipex has some that will cut nails and piano wire. Should work.

https://www.jbtoolsales.com/knipex-...MI372u-9aA1wIVT1mGCh1p-w9SEAQYAiABEgK6IfD_BwE

Wish I had found them when I was trying to salvage some tin.

 

[two_bit_score]

I'd use my 4.5 inch grinder with a cut off wheel on the nail heads.

I was about to suggest a grinder. It seems a grinder would be tedious to keep from cutting into the metal. Looks like he has lead head nails so some breathing protection might be needed?

 

[jcummins]

I was about to suggest a grinder. It seems a grinder would be tedious to keep from cutting into the metal. Looks like he has lead head nails so some breathing protection might be needed?

Here to tell you huys that old time nail puller i posted does a surprisingly good job.

 

[two_bit_score]

Here to tell you huys that old time nail puller i posted does a surprisingly good job.

I'm sure it did. Those are good at pulling nails.

If you were pulling the nails did you get any damage to the siding?

 

[jcummins]

I'm sure it did. Those are good at pulling nails.

If you were pulling the nails did you get any damage to the siding?

Put a board under the part of the tool against the siding and you will have very little damage. The one timed i used one years ago i was amazed.

 

[buckeyefarmer]

Agree on the board to protect the metal.

 

[petebert]

Here to tell you huys that old time nail puller i posted does a surprisingly good job.

Does that have a hammer slide on it? Hardware store near me had something like that. Had something to grip on one end and a hammer slide on the handle.

 

[jcummins]

The one I used did not. You use just like a claw hammer, the difference, those jaws clip under the nail/screw head, and the more you pull the more it tightens. You can put some real pulling force that way. It just flat works.

 

[RippySkippy]

You need this. View attachment 525278

sure if pulling nails out of wood, not when grasping the shank where the washer is. There's a built in gap, for the jaws to grip and pull not cut the nail shank.