New XR Steering Problems Design Flaw?
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ColoradoBound
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I have had the same issue when I am lifting a max load with my XR4140 but lighter loads are not problem. I just get around it be making sure that I am moving when I turn the wheels.
Since this is my first tractor I didn't know if this was normal or not.
Since this is my first tractor I didn't know if this was normal or not.
George2615
Super Member
I have an older XR3037HC. I just tried that test with a 750 lb. QA snow plow attached to the loader arms and certainly don't have that problem with a mere 400 lbs like you say in your video. My plow weight consists of the plow mounted to a 1/2" thick QA full plate. I can lift the plow off the ground and turn my wheels while sitting still from lock to lock. I'd say yours is not normal and NO, they all don't do that.
Have your dealer do a steering cylinder pressure test. On my 3000 series the steering relief valve is supposed to be factory set at 1740 PSI Max. I'd say mine must be close. I'd guess the 4000/4100 series would be about the same. Not sure, but am guessing you have a 4100 series. Even on another brand with Hyd. steering the symptoms and cures should be the same.
According to the steering troubleshooting guide in my service manual No response from turning the wheel can be any of the following;
1) Control valve - air in system
2) Pump - Low hyd. oil flow (relief valve low PSI setting)
3) Cylinder - Piston seal problem
4) Cylinder - Piston seal broken
5) Overload - Excessive weight on the front axle.
I could see your problem happening at or near full load capacity of the loader (that would be normal) but not at 400 lb.
Have your dealer do a steering cylinder pressure test. On my 3000 series the steering relief valve is supposed to be factory set at 1740 PSI Max. I'd say mine must be close. I'd guess the 4000/4100 series would be about the same. Not sure, but am guessing you have a 4100 series. Even on another brand with Hyd. steering the symptoms and cures should be the same.
According to the steering troubleshooting guide in my service manual No response from turning the wheel can be any of the following;
1) Control valve - air in system
2) Pump - Low hyd. oil flow (relief valve low PSI setting)
3) Cylinder - Piston seal problem
4) Cylinder - Piston seal broken
5) Overload - Excessive weight on the front axle.
I could see your problem happening at or near full load capacity of the loader (that would be normal) but not at 400 lb.
Not my video. Not my tractor. Just ran across it on YouTube.
George2615
Super Member
Sorry, I didn't notice you found the vid on youtube. In any case my reply should apply to any hyd. steering tractor owner having a similar problem. I didn't see the video posters name in members here but if he is he's using a different user name.
PJSprog
Elite Member
I've never experienced that on my 3135 either. I haven't max'd it, but a bucket half-full of landscaping bricks didn't give me any turning trouble.
cford36
Gold Member
Just checked my 3135 with about 500lbs of snow blower on the loader arms, no trouble going stop to stop.
Maxify55
Gold Member
My XR3037 has almost 600 hrs on the clock and I've maxed out the loader many, many times and can still max out the wheels stop to stop.
PJSprog
Elite Member
I moved a couple heavy loads of concrete chunks this weekend, and steering worked just fine.
Woodshaver
Member
The XR4046H I have will load 2000lbs on the loader with no problem and steer easily. Need a different dealer to look at. The dealer and their skill makes on the difference in this type of problem, like everything they very greatly. Snapped the front steering ear casting with a big load on the front hitting a stump did not see. Our dealer here in Upstate NY replaced it under warranty with no questions asked. 300 hrs and been very happy. Not sure how much change (other than engine) of XR41 series. Hope you can find a good dealer or contact factory.
