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Just an update...pulled the trigger on the Honda 700 Pioneer. Waiting for better weather to go fetch it. Occurred to me at 5 am this morning that while my 5.5'x10' utility trailer will accommodate the listed dimensions and weight, I might not be able to open the door to get in and out other than doing the NASCAR thing...hoping the half doors can be removed easily.

Congrats!!! I had a feeling you would go for Honda. I think you will love it! Have fun!
 
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Congrats!!! I had a feeling you would go for Honda. I think you will love it! Have fun!
Heading out fetch it now (long ride). Will post an update soon.
 
/ Side by side UTV's #123  
Decided it's time...getting to the age where climbing onto the back of an ATV to get to a deer blind is painful. Plus I live close to where we can get onto a state trail system that will take us for hundreds of miles if we decided to do that. So looking at side by sides. I have local dealers on Polaris, Cub Cadet and Artic Cat. Would love the Honda but the dealers are 50 miles away and they seem to be premium priced. It seems that everybody and their dogs are getting into the market now (Kubota etc.) with brands I have never heard of so the "paralysis by analysis" is making my head spin. Any thoughts on stuff that works and won't break the bank?

I test drove the Kawasaki, Polaris, new Honda Pioneer, Yamaha Viking, and Can-Am Defender. I've got a bad back and the easiest to get into UTVs that I looked at are the Yamaha Viking and Can-Am Defender. I purchased neither because the Yamaha needs a twin engine, and the Can-Am (along with everybody else) I cannot tuck my legs under the seat or get my legs into a less than 90ish degree angle which is what I need to do to avoid back pain in any seat.

I really like the Can-Am too.
 
/ Side by side UTV's #124  
I test drove the Kawasaki, Polaris, new Honda Pioneer, Yamaha Viking, and Can-Am Defender. I've got a bad back and the easiest to get into UTVs that I looked at are the Yamaha Viking and Can-Am Defender. I purchased neither because the Yamaha needs a twin engine, and the Can-Am (along with everybody else) I cannot tuck my legs under the seat or get my legs into a less than 90ish degree angle which is what I need to do to avoid back pain in any seat.

I really like the Can-Am too.
Curious why you think Yamaha needs a twin.We have in the family two Yamaha Vikings,one JD(3 cylinder) and a Kawaski Teryx(twin),I don't see any difference in capabilities due to engines.
 
/ Side by side UTV's #125  
We had a Rhino and still have a Grizzly, both with the counter balanced, 4 valve, 700cc single banger. They chugged along and did just fine. Kind of liked there sound. The Rhino was under powered for our needs but we do plan to getting another 700 Grizzly (atv) next fall.
 
/ Side by side UTV's #126  
Curious why you think Yamaha needs a twin.We have in the family two Yamaha Vikings,one JD(3 cylinder) and a Kawaski Teryx(twin),I don't see any difference in capabilities due to engines.

Less vibration at idle and noise.
 
/ Side by side UTV's #127  
Just an update...pulled the trigger on the Honda 700 Pioneer. Waiting for better weather to go fetch it. Occurred to me at 5 am this morning that while my 5.5'x10' utility trailer will accommodate the listed dimensions and weight, I might not be able to open the door to get in and out other than doing the NASCAR thing...hoping the half doors can be removed easily.

Assuming it's an enclosed trailer. Hope it's a tall enclosure. The P700 is tall.
 
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Assuming it's an enclosed trailer. Hope it's a tall enclosure. The P700 is tall.
You are correct on the "tall" part...only a few inches of clearance on my garage door but most of that the "cage" that looks like it could be fiddled with for transport if needed. I hauled it on my open utility trailer. The folding ramp/rear gate was barely wide enough to accommodate it and those spring loaded locking bolts made the loading/unloading a little tricky. Hate to say that I might need to go to a 6' or wider bed and sell the almost new 5.5' wide bed so a "spotter" isn't needed to load/unload. Other than that I need to figure something out to easily secure the machine to the trailer front to back so it doesn't slam into the rear ramp gate. Ratchet strap worked but they are a PITA. Now onto the machine itself...didn't get much time to drive it around but although we're not supposed to drive on non-authorized roads (like my dead end road with only one other house on it) we did (actually met a "neighbor" that doesn't live on the road but has a back door driveway onto it and was sternly reminded that atvs are not allowed...that is the "Deliverance" type kid that is either with his mother at all times or races past my driveway at 50 mph...I thanked them for reminding me). Very happy so far. The shift mechanism is a little "stiff" right now but I'm sure that will loosen up with time. Very comfortable ride and plenty of zip. Need to study the owners manual now to see what I bought. Btw, I did buy filters and oil for 2 oil changes...not cheap but it's here and I won't have to take the drive when I need it. The oil is some magic blend required because of the oil bath clutch system. I'm guessing all the similar brands are the same.
 
/ Side by side UTV's #129  
We brought home the RTV900 in the dump trailer... it fit like a glove... couldn't squeeze your hand on either side and about a fist in back...

Had rubber padding slipped in between and road the 180 miles like it was not ever there...
 
/ Side by side UTV's #130  
You are correct on the "tall" part...only a few inches of clearance on my garage door but most of that the "cage" that looks like it could be fiddled with for transport if needed. I hauled it on my open utility trailer. The folding ramp/rear gate was barely wide enough to accommodate it and those spring loaded locking bolts made the loading/unloading a little tricky. Hate to say that I might need to go to a 6' or wider bed and sell the almost new 5.5' wide bed so a "spotter" isn't needed to load/unload. Other than that I need to figure something out to easily secure the machine to the trailer front to back so it doesn't slam into the rear ramp gate. Ratchet strap worked but they are a PITA. Now onto the machine itself...didn't get much time to drive it around but although we're not supposed to drive on non-authorized roads (like my dead end road with only one other house on it) we did (actually met a "neighbor" that doesn't live on the road but has a back door driveway onto it and was sternly reminded that atvs are not allowed...that is the "Deliverance" type kid that is either with his mother at all times or races past my driveway at 50 mph...I thanked them for reminding me). Very happy so far. The shift mechanism is a little "stiff" right now but I'm sure that will loosen up with time. Very comfortable ride and plenty of zip. Need to study the owners manual now to see what I bought. Btw, I did buy filters and oil for 2 oil changes...not cheap but it's here and I won't have to take the drive when I need it. The oil is some magic blend required because of the oil bath clutch system. I'm guessing all the similar brands are the same.

The oil is most likely motorcycle oil. It is a special blend to allow it to work with wet auto clutches.

Glad you got your machine. Should be a fun reliable machine for those hundreds of miles of trails you have! (0:
 
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The oil is most likely motorcycle oil. It is a special blend to allow it to work with wet auto clutches.

Glad you got your machine. Should be a fun reliable machine for those hundreds of miles of trails you have! (0:
Pulled the manual out and see that "1st service" is 100 miles or 20 hours"...keeping my warranty in mind I guess I have to load it back up and haul it back next week (not happy and hope somebody can tell me that all brands are the same). I think I have the oil change procedure under control but the "check valve clearance" might be beyond me unless somebody can explain it to me (sounds like it would involve gaskets that I didn't buy). A long time ago I bought a Honda motorcycle (1979 CB759K) that was equally as "fussy" on such things...would have thought the world had moved on since then (and btw, I still have the motorcycle but it has not been on the road since about 1986...we moved around the world and it has been stored and moved a lot...I have about 5 lbs. of keys from various houses and machines that I no longer own but danged if my wife ever kept the keys to that Honda).
 
/ Side by side UTV's #133  
I got a Polaris Ranger 570 Midsize 6 months ago for use around my property. I like it a lot. So much better than an ATV. My biggest complaint is the noise. Louder than I was expecting. I may look into an aftermarket muffler that will cut the noise level down a bit.
I have the same machine, a 2015. I drove it on trails and it performed very well. Fast enough, and climbs good. Now I use it at the orchard I bought, great vehicle for that.
 
/ Side by side UTV's #134  
Less vibration at idle and noise.

Cabs really contribute to all this. My Polaris Brutus is out and out LOUD: even with no doors: 95db at idle and 105db at 3300 rpm. I don't spend a lot of time in it (and running it), so not a big enough issue. But when I'm working it I know that it's working (and that's what it does really well- work). Perhaps the newer diesel stuff (this is a 2013 w/Yanmar diesel) is quieter, with CR engines? (my new Kioti w/cab is really pretty quiet- I'm going to take db measurements to quantify) Not sure if gasoline engines have much more ability to quiet down.
 
/ Side by side UTV's #135  
To me quiet is an important attribute and generally a good indicator of design and quality...
 
/ Side by side UTV's #136  
To me quiet is an important attribute and generally a good indicator of design and quality...

Generally! My B7800 is noisy compared to most everything today, yet it's been bulletproof.

I'd researched electric UTVs (Polaris was the only real company venturing there) and read of all sorts of problems. Can't get much quieter than electric:D (well, there IS electric motor whine, but I don't think that it quite compares)

When I have work to do I make noise. When I want peace and quiet me and the dog go for walks out on the property:D
 
/ Side by side UTV's #138  
Pulled the manual out and see that "1st service" is 100 miles or 20 hours"...keeping my warranty in mind I guess I have to load it back up and haul it back next week (not happy and hope somebody can tell me that all brands are the same). I think I have the oil change procedure under control but the "check valve clearance" might be beyond me unless somebody can explain it to me (sounds like it would involve gaskets that I didn't buy). A long time ago I bought a Honda motorcycle (1979 CB759K) that was equally as "fussy" on such things...would have thought the world had moved on since then (and btw, I still have the motorcycle but it has not been on the road since about 1986...we moved around the world and it has been stored and moved a lot...I have about 5 lbs. of keys from various houses and machines that I no longer own but danged if my wife ever kept the keys to that Honda).

It's not hard at all to change the oil, do exactly how the manual says and you'll be fine. Not sure why you'd need to take it back to dealer so soon. The valve adjustment doesn't need to be done until 600 miles. Honestly if it doesn't show signs of being out of adjustment I would'nt worry to much about going over the 600 miles either. The engine is the same as the rincon atv and as proven to be Honda super reliable.

There are three accessories that are a must for me, a hard roof, poly scratch resistant two piece windshield and a good #4500 winch. All fairly easy to install yourself.
 
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It's not hard at all to change the oil, do exactly how the manual says and you'll be fine. Not sure why you'd need to take it back to dealer so soon. The valve adjustment doesn't need to be done until 600 miles. Honestly if it doesn't show signs of being out of adjustment I would'nt worry to much about going over the 600 miles either. The engine is the same as the rincon atv and as proven to be Honda super reliable.

There are three accessories that are a must for me, a hard roof, poly scratch resistant two piece windshield and a good #4500 winch. All fairly easy to install yourself.
I'm sure the manual requires the initial service at 100 miles or 20 hours whichever comes first and one of the things is the valve clearance check. Our trails close today but the next county has 2 more weeks and I think the boys plan on taking it for a ride tomorrow. 100 miles isn't very far. My wife mentioned the windshield also and she mentioned a roof also (you been talking to her)? As for the winch, did you go Honda or aftermarket (like Warn)?
 

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