Plow question

[Mearntain]

I'm in need of getting a plow for use around the property, and was browsing Agrisupply's website tonight. When looking at their plows, I found 2 similar plows, but they're extremely different in price. I'm new to the tractor world and not familiar with all the ins and outs yet. Could someone explain what the difference in these are to me and what the benefits of both would be? I thought moldboard plow was just a different name for a bottom plow, but maybe I was wrong about that? I've got a ford 2000 3 cyl gasser and plan doing some small amounts of plowing in the 3-4 acre range.

 

[aarolar]

I bet that's a typo I didn't see that a year ago when I was looking as to the difference the 900$ one looks like it's built better but I imagine you would be happy with either with the small amount your talking about working.

 

[JMER817]

You can find an older good used plow for $300 all day

 

[TnFarm]

You can find an older good used plow for $300 all day

I agree. There are tons of them on Craigslist in my area for around $225-$275. I actually just picked up a John Deere 2 bottom from there last week for $140.

 

[gwdixon]

You can find an older good used plow for $300 all day

While I agree that an older plow is the best choice, finding an operable one for $300 "all day" requires some verification.

Might be one around that requires a substantial rebuild but that would have to be figured into the price.

 

[Mearntain]

I have been looking around some to try to find a decent used one for a fair price, but haven't had any luck yet. All I've seen so far have either been just as much as a brand new one or in very questionable shape.

I bet that's a typo I didn't see that a year ago when I was looking as to the difference the 900$ one looks like it's built better but I imagine you would be happy with either with the small amount your talking about working.

I don't think it's a typo cause they have the same thing going on with the single plows. They've got one for 289 that has holes in the plows like the cheaper of the doubles that I posted, and then they have another single plow that's for 589. I'm really interested I what the differences are, but the make it hard to tell as only the cheaper of the plows has a product description, while the more expensive of the plows doesn't have a description.

I'm almost thinking if I can get a double plow that's a decent quality one brand new for 489, I'd almost rather do that. But the real question is how well made thsee are.

 

[MF283]

I agree. There are tons of them on Craigslist in my area for around $225-$275. I actually just picked up a John Deere 2 bottom from there last week for $140.

:hissyfit:, i hate hearing things like that, give ya 200 for it

Ronnie

 

[TnFarm]

:hissyfit:, i hate hearing things like that, give ya 200 for it

Ronnie

. I better hang on to it. I'm waiting for the ground to dry up so I can try it out.

 

[MF283]

. I better hang on to it. I'm waiting for the ground to dry up so I can try it out.

If your in the middle part of the state, it's liable to be awhile, raining as i type this & more the next ywo days, just can't get a break around here.

 

[851 roger]

If you have tree roots and or rocks under the surface, well if your tractor is strong enough, it might break a lighter type plow. I lucked out several years back when I spotted a John Deere two bottom plow being used as yard art!!!! I ask about it, left them my number and a couple weeks they called and just gave it to me. Blessings indeed..

 

[DJ54]

I always thought it'd be pretty cool to have one of these, but won't work well in out clay soils. 2 Bottom Root Plow

 

[MF283]

I always thought it'd be pretty cool to have one of these, but won't work well in out clay soils. 2 Bottom Root Plow

I had a 3 disc like that, tore the clay up pretty darn good around here. Of course, the blame thing weighed about 700 lbs.

Ronnie

 

[RalphVa]

I got some big discs from Agri Supply and mounted them onto the solid bar that my soil ripper came with (from a friend who helped me redo it to put on 3ph). These would work as a disc type plow. A big disc plow is what we used to have on our farm in OK. For any plow though, I think you need a trail wheel to keep it in place unless you have a heavy tractor. I bought a used rotary plow for my Gravely and used it once and then went to no till. It has a front-mounted wheel to keep the tractor from jumping sideways.

Below is are the 2 opposed discs I used to make raised rows with my JD 4010. With opposed discs, you don't need the trail wheel to keep it in place.

Ralph

 

[rbtjr]

I am also in the market for a plow. I just have some small areas to plow, maybe 3/4 of an acre. I was also looking at the Agri Supply plows. One model is a 14" single Moldboard plow for about $300. Another model is described as a single bottom plow for about $590. They are obviously built differently but I am wondering why "Moldboard" was used in the description of one and not the other. Does anyone know if there is a difference between a single "Moldboard" plow and a single bottom plow?

 

[OldMcDonald]

rbtjr, The OP asked the same question and I have been waiting for an answer. I have been a member on here for quite a while and always assumed they were one and the same - "bottom" being just a USA expression for a mouldboard.

Note the difference in the share shape of the two ploughs in the OP. There are numerous variations on this shape, and choosing the right one for your purposes and land is not easy. Experienced advice is highly desirable. I have not used a mouldboard plough since 1979 and never really missed them. I do everything with tines now, but used disc ploughs in Australia - 14 and 18 discs. Not enough hp for the bigger ones.

 

[DJ54]

Probably two different manufacturers, and two different descriptions of the same thing. Around our region, a 1 bottom, or how ever many "bottom" plow, is meant as a moldboard plow. Chisel plows are usually described by the number of shanks.

What I'm wondering is, do these manufacturers use a common share, and moldboard that fit other more well known manufacturers such as John Deere, Ford, Case/IH, etc. And will those wear items still be stocked 10-15 years from now..?? More than likely, the average person will never wear out either, but there's always the chance of hooking a rock or root, and breaking one, or the other.

 

[rbtjr]

I was thinking the same thing. The less expensive version has less bulk, length, etc., and a little different shape. That might explain the lower cost, but then again--me knowing nothing about plows--I thought that there could be two designs of the turning-plow concept, one being called a Mouldboard.

 

[OldMcDonald]

DJ54, The short answer is the wearing parts are specific to a model of plough from any manufacturer. As I posted at #15 there are numerous different shapes of share, and different widths of the same manufacturer's ploughs have different sizes of points and shares, even if they look alike.

 

[buickanddeere]

The JD 415 2X14" the kids use in Ploughing Club is older than I am. Parts the next day at the dealer.

 

[OldMcDonald]

B&D, I agree that for popular ploughs the parts will be available - for the same plough. DJ54 was asking whether parts were interchangeable. The JD 2 x 16" parts will not fit the 2x14". I assume you do have 16" ploughs in N. America. Nor will any other manufacturer's 2 x 14 parts fit the JD unless they are clones of the JD.