Price Check 2014 vs 2015 MX5200

[fishgrub]

Just registered on this site and wanted some input into my purchase decision for new Kubota MX5200 with loader, square bucket, R4 tires, one remote, and block heater. I can get a 2014 model for $30,300 or a 2015 model for $31,000. I was informed that the 2014 model has an interim Tier 4 engine and that it did not have a particulate filter- is this an advantage? Are these prices typical for this tractor?

Thanks in advance for any input you might have.

 

[big bubba]

although i've not done it, some say if you go to K website & build your tractor w/what you've described, then take 10% off, you can arrive at a reasonable price through your dealer. of course, location prices vary. in terms of interim vs full tier 4, my understanding is that the less current epa mandated technology, the less to go wrong. but only imho. best regards on your endeavor

 

[Luke'sScreenName]

If you are not concerned about how loud the tractor is and don't really care about your contribution to air polution, then you want the 2014.
I would jump on the 2014. Also, loaded rears are an absolute must. In fact, I would add factory wheel weights too if I had the chance to do it over.
It is a great tractor.

 

[Grateful11]

If you are not concerned about how loud the tractor is and don't really care about your contribution to air polution, then you want the 2014.
I would jump on the 2014. Also, loaded rears are an absolute must. In fact, I would add factory wheel weights too if I had the chance to do it over.
It is a great tractor.

I'm not going to get into the air thing but luke is absolutely right about the rear weight. Our MX5100 just has the rears filled now and it's still too light in the rear, needs at least 2 sets of weights if not 3. I think it has a lot to do with the heavier loader with more reach. Our L3940 doesn't feel nearly as light in the rear with just loaded rears.

Every MX5200 we looked in the spring of this year had a DPF, maybe they were all 2015's. Found a dealer with 2 Interim Tier 4 MX5100's and my son decided to go with it, no DPF. I hope the seat on the MX5200 is much improved because the MX5100 seat sucks.

 

[fishgrub]

Thanks for the feedback to date. After further negotiations the price difference between 2014 and 2015 is minimal. In looking over the specifications for the MX5200 and comparing them to the L4701 I am wondering if I should consider the L4701 instead?

 

[Luke'sScreenName]

That would be an easy choice for me. But it depends on what you want you'll use it for. What features of the Lxx01 appeal to you? Put them side by side

 

[oldpilgrim]

interim Tier 4 engine and that it did not have a particulate filter- is this an advantage?

big time advantage.

 

[Grandad4]

Make sure exactly what models the dealer is offering. I believe all MX5200's are "final Tier 4" models, whether the date of manufacture is 2014 or 2015. The previous model, MX5100, was built to the old "interim Tier 4" standards. In fact, there was a run on sales of the MX5100's last year as buyers scooped them up when the new MX5200's were announced. Tractor manufacturers don't sell on "model year" like the auto companies do, and I think there's not going to be much, if any, difference between MX5200's built this year or last (besides some weathering if one of them has been sitting outside for a year). However, if there's an MX5100 available, that's something to really consider. Many/most folks seem to prefer the one without all the new emission doo-dads.

The L4701 is smaller and a fair amount lighter than the MX5200. Has considerably less loader capacity. Naturally aspirated engine; MX5200 is turbocharged and more displacement. There is also a non-turbo MX4800 for a little less $$.

 

[Luke'sScreenName]

Make sure exactly what models the dealer is offering. I believe all MX5200's are "final Tier 4" models, whether the date of manufacture is 2014 or 2015. The previous model, MX5100, was built to the old "interim Tier 4" standards. In fact, there was a run on sales of the MX5100's last year as buyers scooped them up when the new MX5200's were announced. Tractor manufacturers don't sell on "model year" like the auto companies do, and I think there's not going to be much, if any, difference between MX5200's built this year or last (besides some weathering if one of them has been sitting outside for a year). However, if there's an MX5100 available, that's something to really consider. Many/most folks seem to prefer the one without all the new emission doo-dads.

The L4701 is smaller and a fair amount lighter than the MX5200. Has considerably less loader capacity. Naturally aspirated engine; MX5200 is turbocharged and more displacement. There is also a non-turbo MX4800 for a little less $$.

I thought the same thing but looked at tractor-data... Take a look, it's interesting. When I looked at them side by side they appeared much different than the specs suggest.

 

[fishgrub]

Just negotiated the purchase of a 2015 MX5200 at a price roughly 13% off suggested retail price. I purchased the heavy duty round back bucket without the additional cutting bar as the bar was a last minute addition. I did not purchase the cutting bar with the idea I could buy a similar bar from another source -- dealer wanted full retail price + freight. I might check our local metal fabrication shop but is there any other sources that I might check out? Thanks to all for your input.

 

[Luke'sScreenName]

That's weird. Can't believe they even stock HD buckets without cutting-edges! Try you local heavy equipment dealer like Cat, Case, or Bobcat...

 

[Grandad4]

Congratulations, sounds like a good deal! Good idea shopping for that lip for the bucket. If you're serious about your dirt work, consider a toothbar to go over the cutting edge. The teeth increase the ability of the FEL to break into hard packed material considerably. You'll get a lot more work accomplished with it. Here's an outfit in Iowa selling such items; don't know a darn thing about them:

Iowa Farm Equipment -- Bucket Toothbars & Cutting Edges

This outfit has many customers and a good reputation:

W.R.Long the 4N1 Bucket People

Many, many others to choose from as well.

Post a pic of your 5200 when it's delivered.

 

[nybirdman]

That's weird. Can't believe they even stock HD buckets without cutting-edges! Try you local heavy equipment dealer like Cat, Case, or Bobcat...

Is he talking about a "tooth-bar",they do come with cutting edges.

 

[kcender]

Is he talking about a "tooth-bar",they do come with cutting edges.

I am thinking a bolt on cutting edge.If so,I wouldn't think the aftermarket would be much cheaper as the piece would probably have to be made to order.

 

[MHarryE]

You probably have discovered by now that the MX5200 was introduced in 2014 and has a high pressure common rail direct injection fuel system. All MX5200s have DPF. The model without DPF was the MX5100 discontinued after 2013. It had a low pressure indirect injection fuel system.

 

[fishgrub]

Took delivery of new mx5200. Received owners manual for tractor but am wondering if I should have also received a manual for the front end loader. There is no information for the loader in the tractor manual.

 

[FatTire]

Took delivery of new mx5200. Received owners manual for tractor but am wondering if I should have also received a manual for the front end loader. There is no information for the loader in the tractor manual.

Yes- The loader has its own Manual. Probably sitting somewhere at your dealer's shop.

 

[salsaboy]

Which loader did you get? I am shopping the same 2 (L4701 & MX5200) The kubota book shows the lift capacity of the LA765 on the 4701 at 1684lbs and the LA1065 on the 5200 at 1691lbs. I would think the LA1065 would be quite a bit more.

FYI: I was quoted $27,750 for the MX5200HST with loader and R1s and $26,500 for the L4701HST with loader and R1s

 

[motownbrowne]

Which loader did you get? I am shopping the same 2 (L4701 & MX5200) The kubota book shows the lift capacity of the LA765 on the 4701 at 1684lbs and the LA1065 on the 5200 at 1691lbs. I would think the LA1065 would be quite a bit more.

FYI: I was quoted $27,750 for the MX5200HST with loader and R1s and $26,500 for the L4701HST with loader and R1s

I'm surprised at that number too. I checked it against the la844, which came on the previous generation of MXs, and according to Kubota, the 844 is stronger, which doesn't make much sense. I will say that between those two, the MX would get my vote. I'm very pleased with mine so far. Are they pretty similar in terms of features, namely, do both have SSQA, cruise control, and telescoping link arms?

 

[Luke'sScreenName]

That 1691lbs number for the LA1065 is for 500mm forward of the lift pin at max height where the loader is the weakest. Lift capacity at 1500mm and 500mm in front of pins is 2319lbs so make sure you are comparing apples to apples.
Here are the tables/graphs from my LA1065 manual.