Everything attachments landplane or box blade???

[hunt4570]

Sorry ,I have a couple other threads on here about the same thing.. having trouble making up my mind!

http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/attachments/341482-box-blade-roll-over-box.html

http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/attachments/341417-field-cleaning-thoughts.html

Now.. I'm leaning towards the ETA Land plane w/rippers (Land Leveler With Ripper Teeth).
And I wish they had an actual picture of one instead of just a drawing.

Yes I have a couple new fields to level out, but I also have about 1 1/4 miles of a service road making a loop through my property, smoothing it and maintaining it will be a never ending enterprise I'm thinking. I also have a couple pond dam roads that this would work on also.

Was originally looking at a box blade (rollover type) but looking back at the box blades I have had in the past, they were pretty much used for occasional road and or field repair. Maybe I've been using the wrong tool for the job all these years! So this is why I'm thinking the landplane. Looking at the ETA one for a couple reasons..first its free shipping to me cause I'm pretty close to them, the second is the rippers, most dont have these and I may never need them.. but if I do, they will be there..

This is a bunch of money to me $1700 for the 6 footer and I just want to make sure I'm making the correct choice.. thoughts?

And what exactly is it that a box blade can do that this land plane can not?????

(and no I dont need plans on how to build a "better" one , thanks)

 

[paulfun9]

For me the two most used tools for those tasks are a Land Plane and a good heavy rear blade . Since getting the land plane with rippers I haven't used the box blade even once.

I have no experience with EA attachments but their stuff seems to be of good quality. I purchased a Befco 72" unit because it was at a dealership close to me when I finally decided to buy one and the weight wasn't bad as well the price was very good. My Rear blade is a Taylor Way 8500 and it to was purchased due to being there when I needed a replacement and the cost was spot on for a heavy blade. My only real concern with box blades, land planes and blades is weight! If they are light they are not as effective for me..

 

[hunt4570]

For me the two most used tools for those tasks are a Land Plane and a good heavy rear blade . Since getting the land plane with rippers I haven't used the box blade even once.

I have no experience with EA attachments but their stuff seems to be of good quality. I purchased a Befco 72" unit because it was at a dealership close to me when I finally decided to buy one and the weight wasn't bad as well the price was very good. My Rear blade is a Taylor Way 8500 and it to was purchased due to being there when I needed a replacement and the cost was spot on for a heavy blade. My only real concern with box blades, land planes and blades is weight! If they are light they are not as effective for me..

I just tracked down a Woods 72" w/rippers about 30 miles from here for $1264 +tax, might go look at it this afternoon.

 

[MtnViewRanch]

I just tracked down a Woods 72" w/rippers about 30 miles from here for $1264 +tax, might go look at it this afternoon.

So one of these?

 

[hunt4570]

So one of these?

Yes, other than the one you listed does not have the rippers, they come both ways. Whatcha think?

 

[MtnViewRanch]

Yes, other than the one you listed does not have the rippers, they come both ways. Whatcha think?

Actually if you look at the specs, the scarifiers are listed out, they just are not in the picture. I personally prefer the side runners to be longer but that seems harder to get these days, as well as the over all unit to be a bit heavier. Other than those tid bits I believe that you will be satisfied with the over all unit, specifically for your roads. :thumbsup:

 

[jeff9366]

And what exactly is it that a box blade can do that this land plane can not?????

Box Blade is better for transporting dirt short distances, then distributing dirt. Box Blade is superior to Land Plane in repairing potholes, mostly because of greater weight per unit of width.

Land Plane's primary function is not dirt transportation. Land Plane redistributes dirt as grader is pulled across the surface. It does not transport dirt, much, once it is filled upon initiation of pull. Rippers on Land Planes are relatively new.


One third of my implements are from ETA. Good builds. Convenient purchase/delivery.

Wood's is known for high quality too.

 

[hunt4570]

Actually if you look at the specs, the scarifiers are listed out, they just are not in the picture. I personally prefer the side runners to be longer but that seems harder to get these days, as well as the over all unit to be a bit heavier. Other than those tid bits I believe that you will be satisfied with the over all unit, specifically for your roads. :thumbsup:

Well thats a good thing. Lookie what followed me home!!













Hope it works as claimed 'cause its mine now. $1300 out the door delivered... ok, I delivered it , so what?

 

[hunt4570]

Box Blade is better for transporting dirt short distances, then distributing dirt. Box Blade is superior to Land Plane in repairing potholes, mostly because of greater weight per unit of width.

Land Plane's primary function is not dirt transportation. Land Plane redistributes dirt as grader is pulled across the surface. It does not transport dirt, much, once it is filled upon initiation of pull. Rippers on Land Planes are relatively new.


One third of my implements are from ETA. Good builds. Convenient purchase/delivery.

Yes,I figured my loader can handle any dirt moving duties. ETA unit looked good, although I bought a Woods 6 footer with rippers. It was at a local dealer so I could have it today, and $400 cheaper.

 

[KiotiKowboy]

I was considering ordering the ETA 72" with rippers - but - free shipping does not include "to the farm." Why is that? It's not like I can't unload the thing.

 

[hunt4570]

I was considering ordering the ETA 72" with rippers - but - free shipping does not include "to the farm." Why is that? It's not like I can't unload the thing.

I believe free shipping is within 1000 miles of their NC plant, OK is probably too far.

 

[KiotiKowboy]

I believe free shipping is within 1000 miles of their NC plant, OK is probably too far.

By their map circle, I am outside the 1000 miles - barely. By actual mileage, I am not. Although I've not contacted them, based on actual mileage, I don't know how they could refuse free shipping.

The issue I have, however, is no free shipping to a home/farm. This is apparently based upon not having a loading dock. Duhhhhhhh, how many farms that would order a land plane would not have the ability to unload the truck?!?!

 

[jeff9366]

I was considering ordering the ETA 72" with rippers - but - free shipping does not include "to the farm." Why is that?

Because it takes time to FIND rural addresses and the delivery points tend to be far apart relative to towns. And sometimes the customers are not home when the truck drives up. All of these are costs to the Common Carrier.

So you pay a supplement for "residential" as opposed to business delivery.

 

[hunt4570]

By their map circle, I am outside the 1000 miles - barely. By actual mileage, I am not. Although I've not contacted them, based on actual mileage, I don't know how they could refuse free shipping.

The issue I have, however, is no free shipping to a home/farm. This is apparently based upon not having a loading dock. Duhhhhhhh, how many farms that would order a land plane would not have the ability to unload the truck?!?!

I did not see that disclaimer, would have knocked me out too. I had no trouble having Agri supply deliver a flail mower to my residence.. yup, I unloaded it fine.
If ETA truly wont deliver to a farm/residence they are kind of out of the running when I'm shopping implements, free shipping is about the only thing keeping them in alignment with the competition pricewise.

 

[hunt4570]

Because it takes time to FIND rural addresses and the delivery points tend to be far apart relative to towns. And sometimes the customers are not home when the truck drives up. All of these are costs to the Common Carrier.

So you pay a supplement for "residential" as opposed to business delivery.

So give them a phone # with instructions to call in advance and problem solved.

 

[JerryK]

So, have them ship to a shipping company dock just within the 1000 miles. Then go there and pick it up with a trailer. I have picked up several things thru the years at the freight company docks. No big thing, they load it for free.... and usually bend over backwards to treat you right.

 

[hunt4570]

So, have them ship to a shipping company dock just within the 1000 miles. Then go there and pick it up with a trailer. I have picked up several things thru the years at the freight company docks. No big thing, they load it for free.... and usually bend over backwards to treat you right.

Would sure be easier unloading it in the front yard!!

 

[jeff9366]

So give them a phone # with instructions to call in advance and problem solved.

Common Carriers have not found this to be a "real world" solution; hence the surcharge.

Nor does that address spaced out nature of rural delivery points.

It has long been a canon of Common Carriers and owner/operators that to be profitable revenue must exceed cost of one gallon of diesel fuel per mile >> currently around $4.00 per mile, varying by state. It is a big expense to hack around ten miles here, ten miles there, with a big rig.

 

[jeff9366]

Would sure be easier unloading it in the front yard!!

My local ACE HARDWARE will receive Common Carrier shipments, by pre-arrangement, and subsequently load shipment into customer's trailer for $60.00. However, they require received shipment to be picked up from Ace within 24 hours or you pay $20 more per day or part day.

 

[hunt4570]

My only thought is don't claim "free shipping" if you aren't going to "deliver".