Tractor tire removal

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romanerin2011

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Shreveport, la
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Ford 3000
I have a ford 3000 that has a rear wheel flat. I'm doing everything to take the wheel off but the lug nuts are stuck. Right now I've been spraying PB penetrate on it with an electric impact and they aren't budging. Can I take the nuts on the back off and just take everything to tire shop or no? Any suggestions would be appreciated.
 
/ Tractor tire removal #2  
A decent tire shop will deal with whatever you give them to work with. Do what you have to do.
 
/ Tractor tire removal #3  
Often you need a 3/4" drive socket and high quality power bar with a long pipe over it to generate the torque to break the nuts free.
When they do back off there will be a loud crack.
An electric impact gun is not going to do the job. Even a 1/2" air impact may not do it.
Tire repair guys will remove the tire and tube from the wheel while the wheel is still on the tractor to avoid having to deal with the lug nuts.
Getting a mobile repair guy to your place may not be too expensive.
Are the tires loaded with calcium or other liquid? If so you are not going to move the tire/wheel unit by hand once free from the tractor.
Dave M7040
 
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I don't exactly have a way to get it to a tire shop. Guess I'll try and patch this tire or something. Never had this problem before.
 
/ Tractor tire removal #5  
If the bead is broken, i.e. it has moved away from the out edge of the rim, then the hardest part of the repair is done.
If the tractor is jacked up and supported on a jack stand or blocks, then you can remove the tire's outer face from the rim to access the tube and remove it for repair.
Do a search on youtube and you will likely find a "how to" for tractor tire removal.
Dave M7040
 
/ Tractor tire removal #6  
If they've never been off or if they have been painted, you will need a long cheater bar as has been suggested. Be sure and use the correct size, HEXOGONAL socket.
 
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I think there's only water in the tire. I fixed the hole in the tire aired it up, now air is leaking from around the rim bead.
 
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I think there's only water in the tire. I fixed the hole in the tire aired it up, now air is leaking from around the rim bead.
Not following you here. All tractors from that era are tube type and yes many, including mine, have a water based solution in them for weight.
 
/ Tractor tire removal #9  
How could you fix a tube type tire without removing and patching the tube?
You still have a leaking tube and the air is coming out around the rim as you see it.
The job may be a little too complicated for your current level of experience although if you persevere you will gain a lot of knowledge
Dave M7040
 
/ Tractor tire removal #10  
If you can't transport the tire, getting it off isn't going to do you much good. Sounds like you need to call a mobile tire guy that specializes in tire repair unless you have some more tools to work with than an electric impact gun.
 
/ Tractor tire removal #11  
I have a ford 3000 that has a rear wheel flat. I'm doing everything to take the wheel off but the lug nuts are stuck. Right now I've been spraying PB penetrate on it with an electric impact and they aren't budging. Can I take the nuts on the back off and just take everything to tire shop or no? Any suggestions would be appreciated.

I agree Call tire place, most have service trucks, just get'r done. I used to be a hard core do it myself tire repair, but I could never keep a fresh can of glue and the tire shops I have 'round here won't sell you a can of glue because then I'd be cheatin' them out of a service call. They win, I just call them now. bjr
 
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Last rear tire flat I had called the tire guy. Asked about bringing in the tractor(slower leak). He said he prefered if I did. Easier on him.

Tickled me. Those things are a bear to change by yourself.
 
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I have an electric, cordless, and high quality pneumatic 1/2" impacts. I would rate them int hat order from weakest to strongest. Two weeks ago I had a flat on the front of my backhoe and the pneumatic impact could only get two of the bolts (they are bolts not nuts) free. The rest took a 5' section of pipe on a breaker bar to free up. But the bigger question is are your tires filled with ballast? If so even if most leaked out that tire is still going to be very heavy and hard to deal with. Then once it's repaired you're going to have to have the tire guy come back out and fill it. If it's not filled it'll still be heavy but with help you can handle it. Getting it into the back of a pickup could be hard.

I think the first thing you need to do is determine if it's a tube as others have said. If it is then you'll need to get the tube out to repair or replace it. You'll also want to get any rust or dirt out of the tire before putting the tube back in. If it doesn't have a tube then you might be able to get away with something like tire slime (if it doesn't have ballast in it). If it does then you'll need to remove the ballast and use a bead sealing product or tube. A rear tire is not something I would suggest doing unless you have plenty of experience with tires. Even though the pressures are not high there is a lot of air in the tire and it can cause lots of bodily harm if something goes wrong. There's a reason why tire shops have a cage to put large tires in when they inflate them. Better safe than sorry, a trip the the emergency room would more than offset the cost of paying someone skilled to do the job.
 
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Another vote for calling a tire shop. I have done so a few times over the years. One time was just to move the loaded rear tires to a wider setting. I did not want to chance dropping one on myself. Another time they came out and installed beet juice in the rears of my new DK35.
 
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Another vote for calling a tire shop. I recently had two four wheeler tires and two lawn mowers tires fixed. The cost was less than I could have bought the tubes for. I would never tackle a tractor tire.
 
/ Tractor tire removal #16  
If doing it yourself, remove the tire while the wheel is still on the tractor. That uses the tractor's weight in your favor and can hold the wheel for you (jacked up of course). Get the tire off, clean and dry the tube, then patch it. Check out You Tube for some good examples of how you use the tire weight to help remove and then install the tire.
 
/ Tractor tire removal #17  
I think there's only water in the tire. I fixed the hole in the tire aired it up, now air is leaking from around the rim bead.

you can't plug a tube tire!

you remove the tire, replace the tube, and reboot it.

Normally you'd take the rim off the center.. but if you can't get the lugnuts off, then you won't get the center to rim nuts off either.

An electric impact gun? might as well try chocklate and flowers!

real tractor requires real tools.

you want a beefy impact gun...I'd consider a 3/4" gun.

I work on tractors often. I havn't used my 3/8 gun in 10 years.. my 1/2" gun gets used on lawnmower blades. my 3/4 and 1" gun get used on tractors..

ps.. you are better off using an impact on a stuck fastener. a long bar and breaker can twist off a stuck nut/bolt faster than a impact will.
 

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