4035 with 485 question

[ktmhans]

Good evening,
Still battling my last question but I have a new one. Will your stabilizer arms on backhoe lift the back of machine off the ground, with loaded tires without assistance from pushing down the backhoe or anything.

I ask because mine won't and the dealer says that's probably ok. Engine revving or not, good fluid level. Haven't used it yet,

Thanks
Hans

 

[travlitt]

Good evening,
Still battling my last question but I have a new one. Will your stabilizer arms on backhoe lift the back of machine off the ground, with loaded tires without assistance from pushing down the backhoe or anything.

I ask because mine won't and the dealer says that's probably ok. Engine revving or not, good fluid level. Haven't used it yet,

Thanks
Hans

My 6640C Branson will

 

[CarlV]

My 4025 will, with out even hesitating.

 

[Navasot]

My 4025 will, with out even hesitating.

That's a lot stouter tractor than the 4035.

With the loaded tires on the 4035 that's a lot of weight. does it dig just fine?

 

[ktmhans]

That's a lot stouter tractor than the 4035.

With the loaded tires on the 4035 that's a lot of weight. does it dig just fine?

Got it in Jan. Little cold and snowy in ct this year, haven't even tried. But I'm not buying that the tractors to heavy. I talked with another forum member that has the same tractor tires not loaded and it lifts them just fine. I just wanted to here from somebody with the same unit. Guess I'll rig up a pressure gauge and see what I get.

 

[ktmhans]

That's a lot stouter tractor than the 4035.

With the loaded tires on the 4035 that's a lot of weight. does it dig just fine?

Got it in Jan. Little cold and snowy in ct this year, haven't even tried. But I'm not buying that the tractors to heavy. I talked with another forum member that has the same tractor tires not loaded and it lifts them just fine. I just wanted to here from somebody with the same unit. Guess I'll rig up a pressure gauge and see what I get.

 

[Navasot]

Really think about it though. If this has R4 Tires those rear tires are huge... think about how many gallons that will hold with what 8lbs a gallon? That's some serious weight and not just a couple hundred pounds. I wouldn't dout it would struggle but interested so keep me updated please

 

[ktmhans]

Lol,
I know it's heavy, 800 lbs a tire or so. But it is a backhoe designed to mount on the machine. Maybe those arms aren't ment to level the back of machine, just support. I don't know. If no one else's 4035 PST with loaded tires come off the ground. I guess it's not ment to be. If some has a 4035 hydro loaded, I know I have a problem!

 

[oldpilgrim]

my 3016 will lift with loaded R4 tires, if that means anything.

 

[ktmhans]

My 4025 will, with out even hesitating.

Just looked up 4025 specs, tractors are about the same weight, the backhoe on 4035 #'s are slightly stronger. Not that it really means much. So I would think unless the stabilizers are built different it should go. Are your tires loaded or empty

 

[Navasot]

Just looked up 4025 specs, tractors are about the same weight, the backhoe on 4035 #'s are slightly stronger. Not that it really means much. So I would think unless the stabilizers are built different it should go. Are your tires loaded or empty

Paper and real life between these two tractors are night and day. The 4025 4wd is a good bit heavier

 

[Navasot]

In counter weight I mean

 

[Navasot]

Didn't think about it but does the backhoe leak down at all?

 

[ktmhans]

No leak down to speak of. I put a pressure gauge on the stabilizer down pressure line. 2600 psi. I didn't have an ag connector to check it at the remote but I'll pick one up tomorrow and see if it's any higher going into the backhoe. The relief is supposed to be set at 2750. So is the machine.

 

[JerryK]

My 5035 w/595 hoe does not even hesitate to raise the rear off the ground.. basically the same tracxtor hyd system and with a similar Bradco built hoe... So, I would say yours should too ..... [ my 1 cent ]

 

[Navasot]

Have you checked the fluid level since the backhoe was operated?

 

[JerryK]

Maybe you just have some air in your lift cyl's.... Could have drifted down [ they just about all do if you don't put them down when the hoe is off the tractor, OR, tie/chain them up in place. If they drifted down, they might have sucked air into the system somehow... [ just another 1 cent ]

 

[ktmhans]

Ok so after testing and emailing the dealer looks like its going back. They can figure it out. I'm guessing something is hooked up wrong from mahindra.

I pulled the staybilizer pressure line off. 2600 psi. I pulled the quick connect off rear remote on tractor and got 4000psi and climbing. Hmm he said it should be on the relief circuit at 2950 psi. Its not. And I don't think the loader is either, it really bogs down the motor while raising or dumping without even a load on it.
Maybe that's why the bango bolt kept leaking, 4000psi+ could def, blow a little rubber washer!!

He also has another 4035 with loaded tires with 485 backhoe( its actually a 50b)(now that I looked at it close) and it would not lift the machine with just the staybilizers. However putting the hoe bucket down he could lift the machine right up. Mine won't move it but 1/2" past what the stayblizers will do.
Stupid, what ever wrong. Stupid.

If anybody has any ideas before I bring it back let me know.

 

[ktmhans]

Update, I got a pressure gauge hooked up on the link loader, best I can tell at the quick connect I'm getting 4000psi+ there too. I'm starting to second guess my testing method. I even tried bleeding out the gauge first thinking maybe air somehow is spiking. But still the same result.
Does anybody know how many pressure reliefs are on the 4035. Are they in the loader control valve and rear remote independatly or is there one main one that then feeds all the hydraulics.

Today I tried the backhoe again because that wasn't making sense that with 2600 psi it would lift it up with the boom. And it was so strong I could of tipped the tractor over at idle. Awesome! I must have been doing something wrong the first time. Still no go with stabilizers.

 

[ktmhans]

Ok so I got a higher pressure gauge, loader quick connects are pushing 7000psi. We've concluded a 4035 only has 1 relief valve in the main power distribution block. And its not working! Going back to dealer Monday for a new one. For anybody who read the first thread I had about the pump washers leaking. Guess why, lol.