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For the price of a pail of Kubota Premium or SUDT, I just dump the oil when I change both filters. Cheap insurance and peace of mind for me.
Not to mention I get top dollar trade in when they look at my service records.
Not to mention I get top dollar trade in when they look at my service records.
Keep the magnet on if at all possible, there is no reason not to have it, you are going to almost always have very fine metal shavings. The HSTs in MY OPINION take more than 50 hours to be fully "wore in." i say wore in, not "broke in". You may have noticed letting off the pedal on a new unit & it comes to a stop quickly vs one w/ 1000hrs.
also pay attention to whats coming off the magnet each time, wipe it off with a paper towl, not rag. You will want to see that there is nothing big enough you could pick out by itself. The filings ive seen just clump together & look like a tiny blob of oil if even that much. And dont panic if there is something a little bigger, just pay attention to what you get. Panic when you have the outer race to a bearing all mangled up on your filter lol. I have seen this to!
To answer the question though, Do you NEED the magnet? No, you dont need it for everything to run just like normal, but if you have it just keep it on, move the magnet from one to the next. If you ask incase you lost yours, forgot to put it back on, or broke it (& the magnets are brittle so be careful) then i would recommend buying the HHTAO filter and getting it back on, but you will likely be ok without.
also pay attention to whats coming off the magnet each time, wipe it off with a paper towl, not rag. You will want to see that there is nothing big enough you could pick out by itself. The filings ive seen just clump together & look like a tiny blob of oil if even that much. And dont panic if there is something a little bigger, just pay attention to what you get. Panic when you have the outer race to a bearing all mangled up on your filter lol. I have seen this to!
To answer the question though, Do you NEED the magnet? No, you dont need it for everything to run just like normal, but if you have it just keep it on, move the magnet from one to the next. If you ask incase you lost yours, forgot to put it back on, or broke it (& the magnets are brittle so be careful) then i would recommend buying the HHTAO filter and getting it back on, but you will likely be ok without.
Simple job.
Much easier than the road rigs we drive. I didn't torque anything yet as I need to get a friends torque handle ( mine went missing years ago).
The oil filter rubber stuck to the block but that happens from time to time.
I didn't notice any metel shavings in the HST filter (I will be checking again) and the new one didn't have the magnetic ring that I could see (HHK70-14070)
If not blowing the air filter out how do I clean it or just replace it. I looked at it and it is still clean so it will be good for some time.
Al
Much easier than the road rigs we drive. I didn't torque anything yet as I need to get a friends torque handle ( mine went missing years ago).
The oil filter rubber stuck to the block but that happens from time to time.
I didn't notice any metel shavings in the HST filter (I will be checking again) and the new one didn't have the magnetic ring that I could see (HHK70-14070)
If not blowing the air filter out how do I clean it or just replace it. I looked at it and it is still clean so it will be good for some time.
Al
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I put magnets in the engine and transmission oil drain plugs on my cars.
Get as much of that stuff as you can out of the oil before it gets recirculated.
Get as much of that stuff as you can out of the oil before it gets recirculated.
Well after looking again I might have changed the wrong filter. Sitting on the tractor the filter under the left foot is the one I changed. The one under the right foot I didn't change. The 50 hours service was to change the Transmission (HST) and the 400 hours is the hydraulics.
Looking at the manual again is making me question which one is the right one.
Question, Are the filters the same, which one is the transmission.
If they are the same, I will just get another filter and change it also.
Al
Looking at the manual again is making me question which one is the right one.
Question, Are the filters the same, which one is the transmission.
If they are the same, I will just get another filter and change it also.
Al
Simple job.
Much easier than the road rigs we drive. I didn't torque anything yet as I need to get a friends torque handle ( mine went missing years ago).
The oil filter rubber stuck to the block but that happens from time to time.
I didn't notice any metel shavings in the HST filter (I will be checking again) and the new one didn't have the magnetic ring that I could see (HHK70-14070)
If not blowing the air filter out how do I clean it or just replace it. I looked at it and it is still clean so it will be good for some time.
Al,
I'm replying to your last two posts here, so first I alologize, i should have made it clearer who & what tractors I was referencing on the filter with the magnet, merlynr on pg1, he has an L3800 & mentioned the magnet. Sorry rookie forum boy mistake. And yes, the b series does NOT have a filter w/ magnet.
Next, the HHK70-14070 (some B's have these & some don't) is indeed the HST aka: transmission filter. If you asked your dealer for a 50 hour service kit then they sold you the wrong one. You needed, HH670-37710 which is your HYD. Filter. - essentially your filtering the same fluid just in two different areas, generally HYD filters, filter before getting to the pump, & transmission filters generally filter fluid heading back into the trans case...generally. Hence sometimes they label them "suction" & "return".
Furthermore, I would go ahead and advise changing the correct filter. You will not go wrong in changing them both in the end of matters. I'm sure everyone knows this, but you said your rubber ring stuck to the case upon removal, the factory must not rub the ring w/ a touch of oil before spinning on?? Makes getting off so much easier. I don't know the torque spec on the drain plugs but for my own vehicles I go by my own "spec" - Hand tight + min1/4 max 1/2 turn by wrench. But that can vary upon several things. I hope this clears up some stuff and gives you some guidance.
Much easier than the road rigs we drive. I didn't torque anything yet as I need to get a friends torque handle ( mine went missing years ago).
The oil filter rubber stuck to the block but that happens from time to time.
I didn't notice any metel shavings in the HST filter (I will be checking again) and the new one didn't have the magnetic ring that I could see (HHK70-14070)
If not blowing the air filter out how do I clean it or just replace it. I looked at it and it is still clean so it will be good for some time.
Al,
I'm replying to your last two posts here, so first I alologize, i should have made it clearer who & what tractors I was referencing on the filter with the magnet, merlynr on pg1, he has an L3800 & mentioned the magnet. Sorry rookie forum boy mistake. And yes, the b series does NOT have a filter w/ magnet.
Next, the HHK70-14070 (some B's have these & some don't) is indeed the HST aka: transmission filter. If you asked your dealer for a 50 hour service kit then they sold you the wrong one. You needed, HH670-37710 which is your HYD. Filter. - essentially your filtering the same fluid just in two different areas, generally HYD filters, filter before getting to the pump, & transmission filters generally filter fluid heading back into the trans case...generally. Hence sometimes they label them "suction" & "return".
Furthermore, I would go ahead and advise changing the correct filter. You will not go wrong in changing them both in the end of matters. I'm sure everyone knows this, but you said your rubber ring stuck to the case upon removal, the factory must not rub the ring w/ a touch of oil before spinning on?? Makes getting off so much easier. I don't know the torque spec on the drain plugs but for my own vehicles I go by my own "spec" - Hand tight + min1/4 max 1/2 turn by wrench. But that can vary upon several things. I hope this clears up some stuff and gives you some guidance.
McREBEL
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OVRxNxOUt,
I just bought a B2920 with 112 hrs. I do not have the owner's manual yet so can you tell me which side the HST filter is on (sitting on the tractor which foot would it be under)? As I understand it, this is the one that can wait until 200 hrs.?
How do you recommend cleaning the air filter if not using compressed air? Just tap it?
Thanks
I just bought a B2920 with 112 hrs. I do not have the owner's manual yet so can you tell me which side the HST filter is on (sitting on the tractor which foot would it be under)? As I understand it, this is the one that can wait until 200 hrs.?
How do you recommend cleaning the air filter if not using compressed air? Just tap it?
Thanks
Transmission filter (HST) is changed at 50 , 200,400 hrs under the left foot sitting on tractor.
Hydraulic filter is changed at 400 hrs under the right foot.
The Manual says to blow the filter with under 30 psi from the inside. I am not in a dusty area so I will just replace it as needed.
Al
Hydraulic filter is changed at 400 hrs under the right foot.
The Manual says to blow the filter with under 30 psi from the inside. I am not in a dusty area so I will just replace it as needed.
Al