Hanging Equipment On Trailer

[Daves3032E]

I am getting a new 16 ft gooseneck dump trailer to replace my 18 ft utility trailer. Every two weeks I travel about 75 miles away to my sister in laws and I take my tractor and whatever equipment I can to get firewood out of the woods from a location near her house. I leave all of the wood at her place and sell from her house.
The problem I'm running into is transporting everything. I have my saws and related equipment that can go in the bed of the truck. I have my root grapple, bucket, 3032e, carry all forks/rack, log splitter, 3 point log grapple, and logging winch. I currently try to judge what I will need on my next visit, but sometimes I would like what I didn't bring... you know the problem. Pack up everything that you think you'll need, but realize you ended up needing that one thing that you didn't bring.
I also want to build a small forestry/forwarding trailer to get more wood to the landing at a time. Where would I put that??? It wouldn't be huge, around one that would work behind an atv.
I was thinking I could take the sides off the trailer and lift it on its side and hang it on the side of the dump. Has anyone had good luck with that kind of arrangement? What else could I hang on the outside? I think that as long as I keep it pretty close to within the width of the trailer that it would be ok. It's not a deckover dump.

 

[2458n]

Why do you choose to drag everything back and forth? Could you not leave one or two items locked up at your sisters? My Crysteel dump truck bed has what is called a triple tipper on it. The hoist is in the center and you have pins that attach on three sides and the pinned location determines the dump. Gravity brings the bed back down. As long as the object weights less then half the bed it would be picked up when lowering. In the case of hanging things on the side; I would then pin it off in the rear location.

 

[Daves3032E]

Why do you choose to drag everything back and forth? Could you not leave one or two items locked up at your sisters? My Crysteel dump truck bed has what is called a triple tipper on it. The hoist is in the center and you have pins that attach on three sides and the pinned location determines the dump. Gravity brings the bed back down. As long as the object weights less then half the bed it would be picked up when lowering. In the case of hanging things on the side; I would then pin it off in the rear location.

I transport it all because I also have wood to take care of at home and two other locations depending on the day of the week.

 

[nc redneck]

One of the main reasons I got aweigh from goosenecks. The use of my truck bed is to valuable. I am lucky pull with 3500 DW. So it works well for me.

 

[lilranch2001]

How about adding a second trailer.
My late father in law towed a fifth wheel camper and boat trailer together quite often

 

[Daves3032E]

How about adding a second trailer.
My late father in law towed a fifth wheel camper and boat trailer together quite often

I wish I could, but I don't believe that is illegal in NY.

 

[Diamondpilot]

This is the very reason I dumped my GN. I quickly learned I needed twice the trailer once I deducted my bed space.

Chris

 

[George2615]

How about adding a second trailer.
My late father in law towed a fifth wheel camper and boat trailer together quite often

Towing two trailers is illegal in NY.

 

[schmism]

sounds like you need a larger trailer not smaller.

Sounds like the best thing for you is a combo trailer in the 22-24' length. 14K pumper pull with WD hitch on the back of a 1 ton sounds about right.

 

[RedNeckRacin]

Ignore everyone complaining about the GN's. They didn't have a big enough trailer to begin with if they are griping about bed space. They tow more weight easier to. If you had a large enough trailer, there wouldn't be bed space issues There is a reason semi trucks don't tow large trailers off the rear of the frame. (Yes I know there are pintle trailers, but they are relegated to smaller equipment)

If the dump trailer is deep enough, can you fab a rack to stack things inside?

 

[Daves3032E]

sounds like you need a larger trailer not smaller.

Sounds like the best thing for you is a combo trailer in the 22-24' length. 14K pumper pull with WD hitch on the back of a 1 ton sounds about right.

I had thought about that, but one that Ron's Trailer's quoted would have cost me about $11k set up the way I wanted. It looked nice, and was based on my design, but out of my price range. I'll make do with the 16 ft'r. I'll just need to get inventive.

 

[Daves3032E]

Ignore everyone complaining about the GN's. They didn't have a big enough trailer to begin with if they are griping about bed space. They tow more weight easier to. If you had a large enough trailer, there wouldn't be bed space issues There is a reason semi trucks don't tow large trailers off the rear of the frame. (Yes I know there are pintle trailers, but they are relegated to smaller equipment)

If the dump trailer is deep enough, can you fab a rack to stack things inside?

I did try to order the trailer with an 18' bed, but they said 16' was as large as they'd go. The trailer has 2' sides on it. I have never towed a GN an I am looking forward to it from my research online. I just realized that I never mentioned what the truck was. It's a 2010 RAM 3500 CC SB SRW. If I raised the loader I would have about 4'-4.5' available for about 5'-6' high. That might work to get a few things stowed away. I'll have to see how it could be arranged. That gives me something to think about.

 

[Diamondpilot]

Ignore everyone complaining about the GN's. They didn't have a big enough trailer to begin with if they are griping about bed space. They tow more weight easier to. If you had a large enough trailer, there wouldn't be bed space issues There is a reason semi trucks don't tow large trailers off the rear of the frame. (Yes I know there are pintle trailers, but they are relegated to smaller equipment)

If the dump trailer is deep enough, can you fab a rack to stack things inside?

I had a 30' with dual 12K axles and a GVWR of 25,000#. It was plenty of trailer weighing in at 6,500# empty. Just didn't work for me. Give me a 22 or 24' BP any day and the bed of my truck back.

Chris

 

[RedNeckRacin]

I had a 30' with dual 12K axles and a GVWR of 25,000#. It was plenty of trailer weighing in at 6,500# empty. Just didn't work for me. Give me a 22 or 24' BP any day and the bed of my truck back.

Chris

Sounds like a light trailer dp, My 20+5 moritz weighs around 5400lbs empty. I have to scratch my head with the BP comments though. I'd never go back to a BP trailer after pulling a GN. Maybe for a lawn mower or occasionally hauling a car. I'm pretty sure I can turn around inside the length of my rig right now. I'm actually looking for a heavier duty trailer though, longer deck and bigger axles. The truck toys with the GN currently. Sure would be nice to haul another 250 square bales on one load.

 

[Daves3032E]

OK, I had a thought on how to haul my splitter on the trailer. It would involve building in a receiver to the trailer and mounting a tube onto the splitter that pivots. You would raise the dump, hook the chains, and then lower the dump to lift it. I don't know if you can hang anything off the back of a trailer or not, but I wouldn't think it would be much different than those trucks that carry/nest the small fork lift on the back for material deliveries. There are details to work out, but think something like this would work? The beck of the trailer would make for a really nice outfeed table for the splitter and it would make a nice size pile already on the trailer. True the garbage from splitting would be on the trailer, but it just might be worth it. Or possibly have a grate that would make the transition from splitter to trailer???

Ready for work...

 

[aczlan]

Could be done. Would need lights on the back of the splitter as it will stick out more than 3' from the back of the trailer.
What if (for transport with the tractor on board) you left the back doors open and slid the splitter under the tractor so that the wheels/motor are against the back of the trailer?
For your buckets/grapples and carryall, what about making a "rack" on top of the gooseneck so that you put the buckets on the carryall (well fastened of course), then fasten the carryall to the top of the goosneck?

Aaron Z

 

[Daves3032E]

Could be done. Would need lights on the back of the splitter as it will stick out more than 3' from the back of the trailer.
What if (for transport with the tractor on board) you left the back doors open and slid the splitter under the tractor so that the wheels/motor are against the back of the trailer?
For your buckets/grapples and carryall, what about making a "rack" on top of the gooseneck so that you put the buckets on the carryall (well fastened of course), then fasten the carryall to the top of the goosneck?

Aaron Z

About sliding the splitter under the tractor... I was thinking that that would probably be a decent idea. Would just have to have some sister'd 2x12's or something to keep whatever attachment that is on the 3pt from resting on it - or maybe that wouldn't be a bad thing?

Probably the attachments that I have that would be on the trailer most often would be the Wallenstein FX65 (3pt skidding winch), Wallenstein LX5100 (3pt log grapple), Frontier AV20H (FEL grapple), and the bucket. The splitter would be once in a while to start, but it may end up being more frequent.

Once I actually get the trailer (picking it up end of next week!) I'll be able to take some measurements and get a better idea of what I have to work with. This is going to be a fun project.

 

[aczlan]

About sliding the splitter under the tractor... I was thinking that that would probably be a decent idea. Would just have to have some sister'd 2x12's or something to keep whatever attachment that is on the 3pt from resting on it - or maybe that wouldn't be a bad thing?

IMO, if you had a logging winch on the 3 point, you could set it on the ibeam of the splitter next to the pusher with the ram fully retracted.
You could also make a small bracket to go over the cylinder so that you could slide the splitter in more and set the winch down on top of the bracket (to avoid denting the cylinder).

Aaron Z

 

[Daves3032E]

IMO, if you had a logging winch on the 3 point, you could set it on the ibeam of the splitter next to the pusher with the ram fully retracted.
You could also make a small bracket to go over the cylinder so that you could slide the splitter in more and set the winch down on top of the bracket (to avoid denting the cylinder).

Aaron Z

Sounds like a solid idea to me. I like it.

 

[Diamondpilot]

Why not pull the splitter behind the trailer? My FIL does it all the time.

Chris