Buying Advice Is an SCUT overkill?

[ajd187]

If you are going to look at SCUTs and you're looking at Deere for the X700 series, take a look at the 1023E and 1025R as well.

I started with the X700s and ended up with a 1025R. My uses are similar to yours but I also have to move snow.

I also wasn't going to get a loader at first but it gets a lot of use. Any time something heavy or bulky needs to be moved, I pull out the tractor and put it in the loader.

 

[DeereMann]

+1..........

If you are going to look at SCUTs and you're looking at Deere for the X700 series, take a look at the 1023E and 1025R as well.

I started with the X700s and ended up with a 1025R. My uses are similar to yours but I also have to move snow.

I also wasn't going to get a loader at first but it gets a lot of use. Any time something heavy or bulky needs to be moved, I pull out the tractor and put it in the loader.

 

[Apastron]

Alright... for those curious, a bit of an update on the slopes: I was able to get a better measurement of the steepness (using the rough 4ft level and angle finder method), and it doesn't appear to be quite as steep as I feared/remembered. The bank in the back measures closer to the 12 to 18 degree range. The side ditch is closer to 20(+) degrees. There are still a few spots touching 30 degrees up front, but the ground is a bit more uneven there and I suspect it's a combination of loose soil and sod arrangement mainly to blame. That may smooth out over time--and at least it is only a few dozen feet long if not. I might also be able to work a different approach angle there.

One negative however is that I discovered an area in the back with standing water just under the sod (without a lot of recent rain)--so "very wet" would be a better description than soggy. I'll have to figure out what is causing that--but hopefully it is just over watering (I still haven't had time to figure out out the new irrigation system).

The Deere dealer down south sent me an ambiguous photo of a 1025R on their lot (?). I'm not sure if that means they have the X700s or not, but I figured I might as well take a look. I'm hoping to head down there late this afternoon to see what they have and check out a BX2370 nearby. Anyone know what the main difference is between the Deere 1023E and 1025R? Is it mainly engine size?

 

[DeereMann]

"Anyone know what the main difference is between the Deere 1023E and 1025R? Is it mainly engine size? "

Yup. the 1023E is a smaller displacement engine using the same engine block. I can't remember if it has smaller cylinder bores or less piston stroke. Probably smaller cylinder bores because then they can re-use the same crankshaft. Get the 1025E, the extra oomph is nice esp. with the de-tuning for emissions from the previous emissions engine 1026R that had more power yet.

 

[ajd187]

The 1025R also has a few semi-premium features that make it a bit nicer.

Suspension seat, thicker floor mat, position control on the 3 point. Probably a few others that I am missing.

 

[ovrszd]

The 1025R also has a few semi-premium features that make it a bit nicer.

Suspension seat, thicker floor mat, position control on the 3 point. Probably a few others that I am missing.

I wouldn't worry so much about the floor mat. But the suspensionseat and position control are worth a LOT of money after a few hundred hours of use. I consider those to make it a LOT nicer. :thumbsup:

 

[DeereMann]

I wouldn't worry so much about the floor mat. But the suspensionseat and position control are worth a LOT of money after a few hundred hours of use. I consider those to make it a LOT nicer. :thumbsup:

+1

I forgot all about those niceties - I've been so quickly accustomed to them I think they're standard. Deere also adss extra work lights on the fenders on the 1025/1026.....I find those very useful during twilight times finishing up my chores. And a little plastic toolbox that isn't worth much more than holding spare parts & such.

 

[art]

Kubota first introduced the scut around 2001 to the world and there are units out there with low hours as well as high hours and they would make a good outfit to have. With the number of them with the backhoe's you might find a good clean used unit with the backhoe for the same money as a new one without.

 

[PsRumors]

And, unless you need the manufacturers finance wizards, go for used. Speaking of Wizards, beware of 0% financing. It's an illusion and does not exist.

To stop the nay sayers, show me a buyer that started a transaction by negotiating a "cash price" on a tractor, then got 0% financing at the same price.

You can buy a used SCUT with a few hundred hours or less for 60% of new price.

The 0% didn't exist with Kubota but sure did with Deere.

I never talk about financing till I know I have the price where I want to be. Kubota was $1700 higher for a financed price, Deere didn't move a penny. And comparing what I paid for my TLB to others I got a darn good deal to boot.

 

[ajd187]

The 0% didn't exist with Kubota but sure did with Deere.

I never talk about financing till I know I have the price where I want to be. Kubota was $1700 higher for a financed price, Deere didn't move a penny. And comparing what I paid for my TLB to others I got a darn good deal to boot.

Same with Deere for me. The price was the same cash or financed.

I think it has to do with volume, and I'm sure they put a bit of that financing cost into everyone's price.

 

[94BULLITT]

The 0% didn't exist with Kubota but sure did with Deere.

I never talk about financing till I know I have the price where I want to be. Kubota was $1700 higher for a financed price, Deere didn't move a penny. And comparing what I paid for my TLB to others I got a darn good deal to boot.

Kubota has been doing 0% for a long time. You get a rebate with Kubota if you don't finance.

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[ovrszd]

Same with Deere for me. The price was the same cash or financed.

I think it has to do with volume, and I'm sure they put a bit of that financing cost into everyone's price.

Your last statement says it all.

 

[ovrszd]

Kubota has been doing 0% for a long time. You get a rebate with Kubota if you don't finance.

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Heheheh. Then Roger,,,, doesn't that mean the cash price is less than the financed price??? Clever wording on their part huh...

 

[ajd187]

Your last statement says it all.

Yes, but with that said, it was the same price as Kubota, and less than Kioti or Massey for comparable (or in some cases lesser) equipment.

 

[GPintheMitten]

It does sound like you have a temporary problem with the water that you would want to fix regardless of what mower/tractor you choose. As to mowing with a 4wd cut, you can take it out of 4 wd when it is not needed. My loader is easily removed but I mow with it on... just lazy. A loader is an extremely handy tool to have, so I would go with something like a BX or a B in Kubota or similar sized in other brands. I have seen little 4wd compact tractors for sale from time to time. You might be able to find a used one with 1000 hours or less. Check craigslist.

 

[94BULLITT]

Heheheh. Then Roger,,,, doesn't that mean the cash price is less than the financed price??? Clever wording on their part huh...

At least they give you some incentive for paying cash. The rebate is through Kubota. The dealer reduces the prices and gets reimbursed.

 

[ovrszd]

At least they give you some incentive for paying cash. The rebate is through Kubota. The dealer reduces the prices and gets reimbursed.

Yep Roger, I totally agree!!!

 

[ovrszd]

I used to mow with this. Best part about a SCUT is you gain other uses like these plus many, many more. Go SCUT.











Lost the Kubota in a fire, so now mow with this.

 

[dragoneggs]

Nice pics, Richard. Thanks for sharing.

 

[ovrszd]

Nice pics, Richard. Thanks for sharing.

You are Welcome.

I had always mowed with John Deere until I bought that Kubota. Bought it used with 300 hrs for $9000 as it sets in the first photo. It outmowed every John Deere I ever owned. Great quality cut, very little scalping. Deck ran on the ground.

After my fire I thought I wanted something a little smaller to mow with. The JD2210 is a nice unit, but won't hold a candle to that Kubota. Should have went back with another B model Kubota. I mow 3 acres including 1/2 mile of highway roadside.