300UGUY
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My wife has a dog grooming shop, and she washes the dog's faces with a medicated shampoo, sometimes once or twice a week. It takes a couple of weeks, but it seems to work. Really important to rinse it out comepletely.
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My wife has a dog grooming shop, and she washes the dog's faces with a medicated shampoo, sometimes once or twice a week. It takes a couple of weeks, but it seems to work. Really important to rinse it out comepletely.
farmgirl19
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Demodectic mange is a problem when there is a poor immune system. Once the immune system gets "right", the dog's system can "handle the mange" and clear it on its own. So, I'd make sure the dog is getting good nutrition (grain free) as my first thing. A few years ago, there was a product called Goodwinol pointment, that you could apply to the individual areas. It was safe, as I think one could even use it around children, if memory serves. Maybe you can find that, if this is localized and not all over the body.
Demodectic mange is present on almost every being, be it dogs or humans. (They live in the eyelash follicles in humans.) They don't cause a problem, until the immune system is compromised. Did your dog recently receive vaccinations? Those can stress the body too. While the mange may be self limiting, it can be irritating, and annoying for you and the dog. If it is truly itchy, Sarcoptic mange may be present too. My uncle and aunt had a dog that had Sarcoptic mange, and the poor dog scratched until it had no hair left, and the entire body was affected. Sarcoptic mange will need to be treated, but again, demodectic can be self limiting, once the dog has a "healthy" immune system.
Demodectic mange is present on almost every being, be it dogs or humans. (They live in the eyelash follicles in humans.) They don't cause a problem, until the immune system is compromised. Did your dog recently receive vaccinations? Those can stress the body too. While the mange may be self limiting, it can be irritating, and annoying for you and the dog. If it is truly itchy, Sarcoptic mange may be present too. My uncle and aunt had a dog that had Sarcoptic mange, and the poor dog scratched until it had no hair left, and the entire body was affected. Sarcoptic mange will need to be treated, but again, demodectic can be self limiting, once the dog has a "healthy" immune system.
kw22614
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Thanks 300UGUY, it's prob the same type of shampoo I ordered I'll make sure to rinse it out good.
Yes farmgirl, you are absolutely correct (been doing lots of research this week). Vet diagnosed as only Demodectic mange - even showed me her skin scrape thru the microscope and only saw the one type of mange. It seems to be localized just to her face and only about 4 areas. The Nu-System ointment is supposed to be about the same as Goodwinol but supposed to be a little less staining, smelly and more inside friendly. The shampoo is supposed to kill the mites and clean out the follicles and the purevet is suppose to coat her eyes so the shampoo and ointment won't irritate them too badly. Chewy has food allergies since very young and has always been on a wheat, corn and soy free diet. She's the finnikeyest eating dog I've ever had. Between weeks of not wanting to eat anything, severe diahrea, then days at a time of constipation. For the last month she's been on a vet recommended plain chicken and rice diet, which she will now only eat when I hand feed her slowly(takes 1-1&1/2hrs) and we're lucky if she'll eat 1/2 of it. Vet just called today with the correct vitamin and nutrition supplements since they had to research to find ones because of her allergies. So yes her immune system is way down. Another vet, at the same practice, now thinks maybe she has bad reactions to chicken as well and has given me a venison recipe to try, transitioning slowly. It calls for 9oz of deer meat and 2&1/2oz of deer organ meat, along with sweet potato or pumpkin, egg, mushrooms and green beans(daily split between 2 meals). I still have some deer roasts in the deep freeze from last year but have no organ meat. Guess I'll have to hit up my hunting friends for the guts they toss this season. Once we can get her to eat well and enough, along with the proper supplements, as you say, her immune system should improve and hopefully kick these mite's little butts. She's always suffered from poor nutrition that's why we're looking for ways to help her from suffering with this affliction.
Thanks for your concern!
roposetoast:
Yes farmgirl, you are absolutely correct (been doing lots of research this week). Vet diagnosed as only Demodectic mange - even showed me her skin scrape thru the microscope and only saw the one type of mange. It seems to be localized just to her face and only about 4 areas. The Nu-System ointment is supposed to be about the same as Goodwinol but supposed to be a little less staining, smelly and more inside friendly. The shampoo is supposed to kill the mites and clean out the follicles and the purevet is suppose to coat her eyes so the shampoo and ointment won't irritate them too badly. Chewy has food allergies since very young and has always been on a wheat, corn and soy free diet. She's the finnikeyest eating dog I've ever had. Between weeks of not wanting to eat anything, severe diahrea, then days at a time of constipation. For the last month she's been on a vet recommended plain chicken and rice diet, which she will now only eat when I hand feed her slowly(takes 1-1&1/2hrs) and we're lucky if she'll eat 1/2 of it. Vet just called today with the correct vitamin and nutrition supplements since they had to research to find ones because of her allergies. So yes her immune system is way down. Another vet, at the same practice, now thinks maybe she has bad reactions to chicken as well and has given me a venison recipe to try, transitioning slowly. It calls for 9oz of deer meat and 2&1/2oz of deer organ meat, along with sweet potato or pumpkin, egg, mushrooms and green beans(daily split between 2 meals). I still have some deer roasts in the deep freeze from last year but have no organ meat. Guess I'll have to hit up my hunting friends for the guts they toss this season. Once we can get her to eat well and enough, along with the proper supplements, as you say, her immune system should improve and hopefully kick these mite's little butts. She's always suffered from poor nutrition that's why we're looking for ways to help her from suffering with this affliction.
Thanks for your concern!
roposetoast:I don't know if the case of "Puppy Doe" got much national press. But the general gist of it is that a 12-18 month old female pit bull was found abandoned and suffering from multiple injuries. Including broken bones, a stab wound to a eye, a mutilated tongue ( forked to resemble a snake) among other injuries due to other torture. This was in Mass and authorities have a person in custody who was found in CT. As a animal lover, I can not understand how someone can do such things to a dog. My 2 dogs make me smile every day and want nothing in return. They are just happy to get scratched and lay on the couch. As every dog is.
dave1949
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Has Chewy been triple-checked for whip worm? Parasite tests can be difficult to get accurate.
Whip worm can cause severe diarrhea, lethargy and general poor nutrition. If whip worm is present in your area (it persists in the soil) it will be a constant threat to be treated.
Whip worm can cause severe diarrhea, lethargy and general poor nutrition. If whip worm is present in your area (it persists in the soil) it will be a constant threat to be treated.
farmgirl19
Super Member
kw; I have a dog allergic to chicken, AND rice. Rice being a grain, I can understand it. He is mine, because his original owner did not want to deal with his allergies, and got rid of him! It has certainly been their loss, as he has been a joy, even if he isn't the "brightest crayon in the box"!
tom; I had not heard of puppy doe. People start with innocent animals, then progress to doing the same tortures to humans. It makes me ill to my stomach to hear of these stories. There is a special place in heII for those that would do such as that to an animal. I hope the perps rot, then burn.
tom; I had not heard of puppy doe. People start with innocent animals, then progress to doing the same tortures to humans. It makes me ill to my stomach to hear of these stories. There is a special place in heII for those that would do such as that to an animal. I hope the perps rot, then burn.
kw22614
Platinum Member
Thanks dave. Yes she's been checked more than 3 times. I started feeling like my vet was getting easy money from me there for a while - $29 each test.
She was found, a while back, to have tape worm(which isn't even tested for, I brought in a worm sample) but given meds for and I've never seen the worms again. Besides since she's been about 3 months old she's been given diatomaceous earth daily which is supposed to kill all internal parisites. Wifey and I take it too - lots of health benefits.
She was found, a while back, to have tape worm(which isn't even tested for, I brought in a worm sample) but given meds for and I've never seen the worms again. Besides since she's been about 3 months old she's been given diatomaceous earth daily which is supposed to kill all internal parisites. Wifey and I take it too - lots of health benefits.
kw22614
Platinum Member
farmgirl what do feed your 'color challenged crayon'?
farmgirl19
Super Member
I home cook for my crew, and he eats beef, pork, turkey, deer, and goat, for the main protein sources. Then I add veggies and some fruit, as well. I rotate with the different batches of food. They get more beef and pork than the others, but when friends are going hunting, and still have a couple of packages of deer left from last year in their freezer, I volunteer to take it. I also let them know I'll pick up anything that won't fit in the freezer if the entire family gets their quota while hunting.
I have one friend that raises Boer goats for show and sell. If one comes out less than show quality, as in off color, etc., I buy it as a young 'un, buy the hay, and she feeds it out and delivers it to be processed for me. Works when she wants to cull the older goats too!
PM me, if you want my basic recipe. (Or, if there is enough interest here, I'll try to put it in the thread. It is a .doc) I do some in a stock pot or dutch oven on the stove, but if the job has me working overtime, I use the crock-pot. I make batches, so can freeze some and have some in the fridge. I try to keep a 30 day supply in the freezer, in case I get ill, or some emergnecy comes up. I want enough to get through until I can feel like making another batch.
farmgirl19
Super Member
Here is the best I can offer on recipe, as it doesn't seem to be something I can attach to a PM. It also won't let me upload the recipe using beef. :confused3: One can modify this, but just replacing the chicken with other meat proteins, as long as they are boneless. Hopefully this document will upload.
kw22614
Platinum Member
thanks farmgirl it came through fine in the thread. cheers, KW
Express
Silver Member
That just burns me up when I hear about people treating animals that way. How could anyone do that! I'm glad Clyde has a great home now
Express
Silver Member
Our Yellow Lab Sadie used to get something similar but the vet said it was due to allergies and recommended Benedryl.
dkair
Member
I've enjoyed looking at the pics on this thread. I agree with others, I cannot stand or understand when people treat animals poorly.
Here's our boy Paxton with one of the hens he keeps watch over during the day.
Here's our boy Paxton with one of the hens he keeps watch over during the day.
Express
Silver Member
Paxton looks like aLab or a Chesepeak? I bet he is smart as a whip
Triguy1
Silver Member
Great pic
kg7il
Silver Member
Annie the Labrador 
dave1949
Super Star Member
Sharon gives our dogs diatomaceous earth too. With fox and coyote around, whip worm is here for sure according to our vet. Our youngest had a mild case of whip worm when she was a pup. She's a TDI (therapy) dog and they can't test positive for worms.
Years ago one of our adult dogs got whip worm and it took a while to nail that down. She had quite a spectacular
instance of explosive diarrhea before we got her cured. She was up on the second floor and tried her best to get downstairs to the back door.A lot of Chewy's symptoms are probably secondary to an underlying immune deficiency or basic unidentified root issue I would bet. You could consider taking her to a holistic vet if the normal things aren't working. I know it can be frustrating.
dave1949
Super Star Member
Another great pic!
Bob77064
Elite Member
This is Lucy with her little sister Molly. Lucy is a Golden Retreiver/Black Lab and she loves to eat.
