Timber Frame Hybrid Home - Owner Builder

/ Timber Frame Hybrid Home - Owner Builder #221  
Hi Tom.

We finished with two coats of minwax english chestnut 233 and one coat of polyurethane. We used a sprayer to spray everything then just wiped off the excess. The sprayer was a lifesaver.

Jeremy

I have done a few similar projects for clients and came up with this solution for fast and easy finishing.
I use a sponge and danish oil and simply wipe a coat of oil onto the boards. After all the goal is to seal the wood (maybe tinting as well). Label on the oil indicates that while called 'oil' it is a poly based product. Goal being to seal and tint and unlike a floor or furniture not to provide wear protection.
One upside is that since using a sponge the dustiest surface gets wiped clean as you apply the finish and simple occasional wring out of sponge clears all dirt and grime leaving a perfect finish.
I have jobs that are now 20 years aged and still look as good as the day we did them.
We are talking 'natural look' here and not high gloss. (certainly glossy walls and ceilings would be ugly IMHO anyway)
 
/ Timber Frame Hybrid Home - Owner Builder #223  
The ceiling looks great. You really are getting a feeling for how nice that room will be. I was wondering how wide are tongue and groove boards that you used. I am planning a project that would have a wood ceiling and am trying to figure out what size boards to use. Thanks Rick
 
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Beautiful jk!

Thanks Kyle. Appreciate the comments.

The ceiling looks great. You really are getting a feeling for how nice that room will be. I was wondering how wide are tongue and groove boards that you used. I am planning a project that would have a wood ceiling and am trying to figure out what size boards to use. Thanks Rick

Hi Rick - we used 1x6 pine. The boards we used had a 5-1/2 inch side as well as a groove running down the middle of the opposite side to make it look like 3". Due to the height of the ceiling we chose to use the wider side. Anything smaller and I think it would have looked too busy.

The ceilings were finished up today. Tar paper and rafters started as well and should be done tomorrow. Here's a few more pics now that it's all finished.





 
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A few new pics. The great room and loft with the t&g ceiling have been spray foamed. We filled the 2x6 rafters with closed cell foam that should give us an approx R36 ceiling. Front porch is done along with rafters on part of the north wing. We also started block for the stone columns and footings for the outside stairs. Scissor truss accents went up today. That part was a 5 man job. King and jack studs were framed in next to and under the trusses to support them.











 
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/ Timber Frame Hybrid Home - Owner Builder #226  
WOW just WOW
 
/ Timber Frame Hybrid Home - Owner Builder #227  
Fantastic great pictures fabulous new home you are to be complimented
 
/ Timber Frame Hybrid Home - Owner Builder #229  
Looks good, the timbers sure look nice. What is the cost of closed cell spray foam in your area?

Dave
 
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Looks good, the timbers sure look nice. What is the cost of closed cell spray foam in your area?

Dave

Hi Dave. Ours ran about .85 sq/ft per inch for closed cell.
 
/ Timber Frame Hybrid Home - Owner Builder #231  
Thats a good price, I have gotten quotes from $1.25-$1.50 sq ft per inch.

Dave
 
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Thats a good price, I have gotten quotes from $1.25-$1.50 sq ft per inch.

Dave

My next closest quote was around $1/sq ft.
 
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Awesome build!

Thanks for the comments everyone. It was a rough week week with all of the rain. We lost three days of work but did get the crew in today to make up a day. Most of the rafters are up now and we should be sheeting the roof or at least be ready to by the end of the day Monday. The chimney for the fireplace has also been framed and I started nailing boxes for outlets and light switches. A cousin of mine and myself are going to wire the house.

I'll be out digging with a mini-ex that I rented tomorrow. The water is finally hooked up and unfortunatly we have a leak somewhere. It looks like we are loosing about 14 gallons a day which is not enough so far for it to come to the surface. I dug up the line where the new line we ran meets the old line and put in a shut off valve to isolate the line. It looks like our leak is on the new section which cuts my searching from 4700 feet down to about 1500 feet. I'm really not sure of a good way to find it other than cutting each section in half until we narrow it down.

Jeremy
 
/ Timber Frame Hybrid Home - Owner Builder #235  
What kind of water line is it, and how long is each length? If its black plastic, in 300ft lenghts, measure 300 ft from first connection, and insert a rod with a T handle into the ground. If water comes up, dig there, if not go 300ft and recheck again.
Most leaks are at a connection.

Dave
 
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What kind of water line is it, and how long is each length? If its black plastic, in 300ft lenghts, measure 300 ft from first connection, and insert a rod with a T handle into the ground. If water comes up, dig there, if not go 300ft and recheck again.
Most leaks are at a connection.

Dave

The line is 2" pvc gasketed in 20' sticks. I'm assuming one of the sticks pulled loose a bit when we dropped it in or maybe has a bad gasket. I still have the line open where we found an initial leak that is about 900' from the house. I'm going to place the shutoff there next which should cut my searching down to either 900 feet or 500 feet. After that I may pressurize the line and do some more searching with a rod as you suggested.
 
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I'm curious as to why 20' lengths of pvc are used for water supply line in some areas. My brother in Kansas has that and he is on his second leak in five years, it's a county water district. What's up with that?

I don't think I've seen that used around here. Not sure what they use in town, but the well to house supply lines are done with the rolls of black plastic pipe here.
 
/ Timber Frame Hybrid Home - Owner Builder #238  
Thats a lot of potential points for leakage. Black plastic in my area, is common, we have been using it since the late 70s. I use 2 stainless steel hose clamps per connection, with the screw 180 degrees from each other, and brass barbed fittings when I can. We have run pressures from 60 to 80 psi. We even had a pressure switch weld the contacts on our well, it popped the water heater pressure relief valves in our neighbors and my home. Two blue pressure tanks in the well pit bulged to about 2 inches larger diameter, and ho leaks, im not sure how much pressure, it takes to cause that. We have six homes on our well.

Dave

Now it seams that Pex is more common.
 
/ Timber Frame Hybrid Home - Owner Builder #239  
I'm curious as to why 20' lengths of pvc are used for water supply line in some areas. My brother in Kansas has that and he is on his second leak in five years, it's a county water district. What's up with that?

I don't think I've seen that used around here. Not sure what they use in town, but the well to house supply lines are done with the rolls of black plastic pipe here.

The advantage of using pipe with a gasket is that it can contract and expand with the soil. A common reason for pipe failure is fatigue from movement in the ground. Black Poly pipe is one of the worse for this and in my part of the country, it's a full time24/7 job for several crews in the city to repair them.

If the leak is happening right after it's been buried, the cause is probably from being able to move too much in a bend or curve. The fill is never as compact as the undisturbed soil and that allows the pipe to move more then it should. Sacks of concrete should be placed in the hole to keep the pipes in place until the soil compacts.

Did you use grease to slide the pipes together? Not using it can cause the gaskets to turn and result in a leak.

Before doing anything drastic like cutting the pipe, dig down at intervals and look for moisture in the trench. 14 gallons isn't very much and it will take awhile for it to surface, or it might never come to the surface. The bottom of the trench should hold enough water that you should be able to see it when you get to it. Of course, with rain, that wont work until everything is dried out.

How do you know you have a leak? I had an issue with a water district on a house that I was flipping that said I used 40,000 gallons of water in one month in an empty house with the water turned off at the house. I spoke to a guy at another water district and he said that if the water supply was surging, and it was an old meter, then water would go through the meter under pressure, then back when the pressure dropped. Every time the pressure increases, the meter reads it as water going through, but when the water pressure drops, the meter doesn't read it, resulting in thousands of gallons on the meter that I never used. In this case, they replaced the meter and added a backflow device. Problem solved.

How much water pressure is at your house? If it's too high, over 80 pounds, the water might be going through your toilet. Ideally, water pressure in a house should be around 60 pounds. If you go much higher then that, the valve in the toilet bowl will leak water through it. That water goes through the toilet and down the drain without you ever knowing it. You wont hear it or see it, but it's ongoing all the time. Usually this adds up to thousands of gallons a month. You need to measure the water pressure at the house. You can get a gauge in the sprinkler department of any home improvement store to that attaches to an outdoor spicket that will tell you how much pressure you have at the house. A house downhill from the supply will increase water pressure from gravity.

Good luck,
Eddie
 

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