CK20S Stump Wars! 2013

[rider7767]

You all done it! You know you done it! Don't deny you done it! :salute:
You want to talk about unsafe. You all should ride to work with me in the morning. It would be safer to use the chainsaw only wearing a G string, using dental floss to lift the stump with a helium balloon strapped to the back of the tractor. :dance1: If you ant laughing now, somethings wrong with you. By the way, it will take at least three hours for the picture to leave your head. Sorry about that.

 

[k0ua]

You all done it! You know you done it! Don't deny you done it! :salute:
You want to talk about unsafe. You all should ride to work with me in the morning. It would be safer to use the chainsaw only wearing a G string, using dental floss to lift the stump with a helium balloon strapped to the back of the tractor. :dance1: If you ant laughing now, somethings wrong with you. By the way, it will take at least three hours for the picture to leave your head. Sorry about that.

Ok. It worked,.. we are laughing:laughing:.. Dang. that is a "lasting Picture"

 

[rimshot]

Hi All,

Unlike some of the safety police types postin here, I'd just like to quietly point out the unsafe hook-up in rimshot's first picture, where although the load hangs down from the center of the bucket, the attachment point of the chain is solely on the left hand grapple mount, from whence it crossed over to the center hook. This mounting applies a twisting torque the the left hand bucket mount and is essentially trying to twist the bucket off the mounts.

We should all avoid this kind of one-sided or torquing hook ups, instead either just using the center mounted hook, or better yet, both of the end points. Also, the positioning, while dramatically impressive for a picture, is too loose, making the bucket have to rear up too high, and bringing the COG too high risking lateral instability.

Thomas

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You are right about the three point hook up as opposed to the two point hookup in the picture. In this case the stumps were plucked from a pile and did not go anyplace. They were posed for a picture. None the less the balance provided by the three points is Superior.

So far as twisting the bucket off the boom arms is concerned I think some bucket distortion would have to take place for this to happen. I don't think there is much chance this is going to occur in this case. Of course there are limits for everything but I don,t think my bucket will be distorting too much with anything this particular CK20 can bench press . As you can see the bucket is reinforced with plate and box channel steel. You point out correctly the stress would none the less be preent.

rimshot

 

[rider7767]

Holy crap, it is like being back in physics class! :reading::reading::beer:izza::teacher:

 

[rider7767]

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You are right about the three point hook up as opposed to the two point hookup in the picture. In this case the stumps were plucked from a pile and did not go anyplace. They were posed for a picture. None the less the balance provided by the three points is Superior.

So far as twisting the bucket off the boom arms is concerned I think some bucket distortion would have to take place for this to happen. I don't think there is much chance this is going to occur in this case. Of course there are limits for everything but I don,t think my bucket will be distorting too much with anything this particular CK20 can bench press . As you can see the bucket is reinforced with plate and box channel steel. You point out correctly the stress would none the less be preent.

rimshot

That bucket is bad to the bone. :blueribbon:

 

[rimshot]

That bucket is bad to the bone. :blueribbon:

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That bucket is so bad it's ugly bad. It's so bad and ugly it makes the stumps it totes look pretty.

rimshot

 

[rider7767]

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That bucket is so bad it's ugly bad. It's so bad and ugly it makes the stumps it totes look pretty.

rimshot

Now you have gone and done it. I have bucket envy! I am so ashamed.:ashamed:

 

[RSKY]

CK20 is one tough little tractor. And the size makes it easy to get into areas a larger one cannot. I am amazed at what I can do with 22-hp.

Keep the pictures coming and be safe!

 

[rider7767]

CK20 is one tough little tractor. And the size makes it easy to get into areas a larger one cannot. I am amazed at what I can do with 22-hp.

Keep the pictures coming and be safe!

The little CK20S is heaver than any other tractor I researched in the same foot print. It seems that Kioti is sticking to the tractor tradition of less HP and more gears. The tractor's engine is not strong enough to damage itself, but by dropping the gear ratio, you can pull a house down. That is the same way the old Ford 8Ns were built, and that is why they are still around. The Pictures are not a problem. My wife of 22 years is an amature photographer; however, she uses her phone for most of these pics.

 

[PhysAssist]

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You are right about the three point hook up as opposed to the two point hookup in the picture. In this case the stumps were plucked from a pile and did not go anyplace. They were posed for a picture. None the less the balance provided by the three points is Superior.

So far as twisting the bucket off the boom arms is concerned I think some bucket distortion would have to take place for this to happen. I don't think there is much chance this is going to occur in this case. Of course there are limits for everything but I don,t think my bucket will be distorting too much with anything this particular CK20 can bench press . As you can see the bucket is reinforced with plate and box channel steel. You point out correctly the stress would none the less be preent.

rimshot

Hi Rimshot,

I know a posed picture when I see one, and your other points are just as valid, but an object lesson in safety should never be a missed opportunity to teach safer methods.

Thomas

PS: Being a Belt AND Suspenders guy by nature, my bucket would look more like yours, IF I didn't already know how feeble my little B2320's loader is compared to the bucket's inherent strength.

 

[rider7767]

I have been fighting this stump for almost 4 years. It is down. I have to get it out of the hole now. It weighs more than my tractor. I burned, hit, kicked, sawed, and drilled the stump. It was about 40 inches across when we started. Walnut makes for one tough stump! My neighbor shot fireworks for me. Too funny!

 

[rimshot]

Work over those roots real good to rid the root ball of as much dirt and gravel possible. That helps lighten the load. If it is a big stump. do not try flipping the stump over because it might come back at you. Instead slide it along and into it's burial sight. Make

I quite often take my chain saw after getting the stump out and (provided no gravel is present) cut the butt end of log to shorten stump push the remnants in a freshly dug hole. It will be a better world for it. Good job removing that thing..

rimshot

 

[IslandTractor]

Work over those roots real good to rid the root ball of as much dirt and gravel possible. I quite often take my chain saw after getting the stump out and (provided no gravel is present) push the remnants in a freshly dug hole. It will be a better world for it. Good job removing that thing..

rimshot

A pressure washer would help lighten the rootball.

I got one maybe about that size (Oak) out of it's hole with my DK40 but had to use the backhoe to do it. I could lift it with the FEL afterwards but couldn't drag it out of the hole except with the BH.

I never got a stump as big as riders with my trusty CK20 but I did dig out a lot of stumps too.

 

[Coyote machine]

4 YEARS!:shocked: Wow! You guys down south ever heard of dynamite!:laughing:
Nice job, hate to see what you would attempt with a DK-40 series tractor!
What are you planning for the clearing area now?

 

[rimshot]

I must admit that the soil I am working in consists mainly of gravel with a sand base and round limestone made up of peastone to softball size aggregate and a few larger stone. I sometimes think this stuff can be like ball bearings when it comes to digging stumps. There is no way I could have removed some of the stumps withoiut my backhoe. It might take me a while but I have not met a stump I could not have removed my CK
Provided I am not going to build in the immediate area a nice hole immediately next to a stump about to give up is a great place to roll tihe stump a final time as it gives up. (R.I.P.). Make sure it is deep enough and first and cut the stump as low as possible so you don't have to dig so deeply. If this excavation is preparing for a building site of course one needs the stumps out. I have prepared a ramp out of the hole with backhoe and chains to facilitate dragging out a stump if need be.

Bigger equipment certainly can have avantages but so far my ck20 has been worthy for me.
ymmv

rimshot

 

[rider7767]

4 YEARS!:shocked: Wow! You guys down south ever heard of dynamite!:laughing:
Nice job, hate to see what you would attempt with a DK-40 series tractor!
What are you planning for the clearing area now?

It crossed my mined several times to use dynamite. I thought better of it since it was 20 feet behind the house. I almost gave in a few times. You can replace windows!:mur:
Plans: There is just no flat land where I live. You have to cut it out. I am planning on building a 40'x40' shop in the spring.

 

[rider7767]

I must admit that the soil I am working in consists mainly of gravel with a sand base and round limestone made up of peastone to softball size aggregate and a few larger stone. I sometimes think this stuff can be like ball bearings when it comes to digging stumps. There is no way I could have removed some of the stumps withoiut my backhoe. It might take me a while but I have not met a stump I could not have removed my CK
Provided I am not going to build in the immediate area a nice hole immediately next to a stump about to give up is a great place to roll tihe stump a final time as it gives up. (R.I.P.). Make sure it is deep enough and first and cut the stump as low as possible so you don't have to dig so deeply. If this excavation is preparing for a building site of course one needs the stumps out. I have prepared a ramp out of the hole with backhoe and chains to facilitate dragging out a stump if need be.

Bigger equipment certainly can have avantages but so far my ck20 has been worthy for me.
ymmv

rimshot

This is some of the hardest clay I have ever dealt with. Just to make it interesting, there are seams of limestone. Once I get this out of the hole, I will push it off the side of a cliff where it will come to rest about a 150 feet below where it started. :cool2:

 

[rider7767]

We were excited and my dog could tell. She thought she should have a look.

 

[Coyote machine]

We were excited and my dog could tell. She thought she should have a look.

That's cool! Dogs know when dad has won! Hey if no dynamite at least set it on fire before rolling it down the hill! Gotta get some fun out of this stump's demise.:cool2: (Plunge cut into the top of it and pour diesel and gas mix in the cut- let it soak in stuff a diesel soaked rag in the cut and light it and push it over the hill. We'll be watching Google earth for the flames!:drink:
Alternatively you could have left it in the ground and built your shop over and around it- 'ya know something for a conversation piece.

Oh, BTW, house?!:confused3::confused2: What house - if we can't see it in the pics it doesn't exist!:laughing: And you can always build another, right?! Next time dynamite for sure.....

Oh yeah, one last thing- man do you need a backhoe! :2cents: If ever a guy deserved one you do - I could never have taken the time/effort to dig that stump with a bucket, no way/no how! Congrats on a successful mission!:thumbsup:

 

[rider7767]

That's cool! Dogs know when dad has won! Hey if no dynamite at least set it on fire before rolling it down the hill! Gotta get some fun out of this stump's demise.:cool2: (Plunge cut into the top of it and pour diesel and gas mix in the cut- let it soak in stuff a diesel soaked rag in the cut and light it and push it over the hill. We'll be watching Google earth for the flames!:drink:
Alternatively you could have left it in the ground and built your shop over and around it- 'ya know something for a conversation piece.

Oh, BTW, house?!:confused3::confused2: What house - if we can't see it in the pics it doesn't exist!:laughing: And you can always build another, right?! Next time dynamite for sure.....

Oh yeah, one last thing- man do you need a backhoe! :2cents: If ever a guy deserved one you do - I could never have taken the time/effort to dig that stump with a bucket, no way/no how! Congrats on a successful mission!:thumbsup:

I may yet buy a backhoe attachment. I am afraid once I get this project done, I would not need it. I use my tractor for the bucket and mowing mostly.