Was ready to buy

[k0ua]

You know it is interesting how this thread worked out, the guy goes into the JD dealership and can't get the time of day, and winds up with a Kioti. 20+ thousand bucks down the drain for that JD and that dealer because no one would pay him any attention. I remembered in 2010 when I bought the tractor before my present Kioti, that is exactly how I wound up with a Kubota. I went to the JD dealership first, it was a large nice lot with probably over 100 tractors, and in better than 30 minutes never could attract anyone's attention. So the wife and I left and went to the Kubota dealership, and a guy came right out and offered to sell me a tractor. It is amazing how that works

James K0UA

 

[freewookie]

R-4 or AG tires? Welcome to the Pack.

Thanks. They're swapping out with industrials.

 

[freewookie]

Congratulations... Welcome to the pack. What are you doing for rear ballast so you can use the loader to it's full potential?

Thanks. I was planning on picking up a box blade on craigslist. Will that not be enough?

 

[GManBart]

Thanks. I was planning on picking up a box blade on craigslist. Will that not be enough?

Not even close. Their specs call for over 1k on the 3pt to both maximize the loader capability, and take weight off the front axle. Some folks will tell you to have the rear tires loaded with fluid. Loading the rear tires will help keep the tires on the ground with heavy loads, but won't prevent you from abusing the front axle.

 

[grsthegreat]

Walked into the JD looking the buy a 5045D and couldn't get anyone's attention. Not a "Hi how you doing?" or anything. Said fine they must not need my money so headed across the highway to the NH dealer. Same thing there!

Don't these guys work on commissions?

i know its not universal...but I had the same thing happen with the Coeur d'Alene JD dealership when i was ready to purchase a new cab tractor. I had to nearly pull teeth to get them to quote me a price. Then it was the exact online quote from jd website. Would not deal with cash or trade ins. He kept asking me how much per month i was willing to spend. I kept telling him CASH..it didnt register

Waste of my time. I lefty and went elsewhere.

 

[grsthegreat]

Signed the papers this morning on DK40SEHST. Couple weeks until delivery.

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definitely wont regret it. The Kioti dealer i used has been a great guy to work with. He even came to my place (about a 60 mile trip) to take care of a minor issue with the tractor. NO CHARGE

 

[freewookie]

Not even close. Their specs call for over 1k on the 3pt to both maximize the loader capability, and take weight off the front axle. Some folks will tell you to have the rear tires loaded with fluid. Loading the rear tires will help keep the tires on the ground with heavy loads, but won't prevent you from abusing the front axle.

Geez I'm such a novice at this stuff.

 

[GManBart]

Geez I'm such a novice at this stuff.

We all start somewhere!

I'm actually in the middle of writing a pretty thorough (I hope!) guide for new tractor shoppers....hoping to have the first cut done very soon.

 

[freewookie]

We all start somewhere! I'm actually in the middle of writing a pretty thorough (I hope!) guide for new tractor shoppers....hoping to have the first cut done very soon.

Great idea then make it a sticky!

 

[GManBart]

Great idea then make it a sticky!

I was thinking just that....we'll see what they think.

 

[k0ua]

Do you want to try to make a ballast barrel or box? or depending how heavy your box blade is, you can add weight to it, but that can get kinda cumbersome. Can you build a bit? We can help you with ideas if you want. But you need 1100 lbs on the 3pt to make full use of the loader, and I reccomend loaded tires too. They help side hill stability, too, and they will help keep your tires planted for more traction when you are pulling the box blade and it is on the ground. but they will not help a bit to "unload your front axle" like 3pt weight will do. Just keep it in mind, a new tractor with no fluid in the tires and nothing on the 3pt and a powerful loader (like the DK40se has) is an invitation to disaster. Please trust us on this. We want you tractor experience to be a good one. If you go with just a box blade on the back, lets say it weighs 500 lbs.. well then don't pick up anything really heavy on the FEL, especially on sloped ground. Level ground is safer ground, slow speed is safer speed, Bucket low as possible is safer position. Proper weight on the 3pt is a safer tractor, loaded tires are good too. Well enough lecture for now, but please think about these things..

James K0UA

James K0UA

 

[freewookie]

Do you want to try to make a ballast barrel or box? or depending how heavy your box blade is, you can add weight to it, but that can get kinda cumbersome. Can you build a bit? We can help you with ideas if you want. But you need 1100 lbs on the 3pt to make full use of the loader, and I reccomend loaded tires too. They help side hill stability, too, and they will help keep your tires planted for more traction when you are pulling the box blade and it is on the ground. but they will not help a bit to "unload your front axle" like 3pt weight will do. Just keep it in mind, a new tractor with no fluid in the tires and nothing on the 3pt and a powerful loader (like the DK40se has) is an invitation to disaster. Please trust us on this. We want you tractor experience to be a good one. If you go with just a box blade on the back, lets say it weighs 500 lbs.. well then don't pick up anything really heavy on the FEL, especially on sloped ground. Level ground is safer ground, slow speed is safer speed, Bucket low as possible is safer position. Proper weight on the 3pt is a safer tractor, loaded tires are good too. Well enough lecture for now, but please think about these things.. James K0UA James K0UA

Thanks for the advice. At this point I can't think of anything heavy I'd want to pick up. Maybe a log or two but may just drag them. Any idea on cost to have the rears filled?

I've got some time to start researching this before delivery.

 

[freewookie]

I take that back. I will have some round bales to load so will need to figure out something

 

[Wagtail]

i know its not universal...but I had the same thing happen with the Coeur d'Alene JD dealership when i was ready to purchase a new cab tractor. I had to nearly pull teeth to get them to quote me a price. Then it was the exact online quote from jd website. Would not deal with cash or trade ins. He kept asking me how much per month i was willing to spend. I kept telling him CASH..it didnt register

Waste of my time. I lefty and went elsewhere.

I can't explain the mindset. The opposite has happened to me with the JD franchise here in Tassie... all 3 lots in the State are branches of the one dealership. And they can't do enough for me, whether it was during the initial purchase (cash, no trade in = over $7,000 in 'discounts' + the 200hr service for free at my property) or after the fact.

I casually mentioned that a hydraulic line to the 4in1 was rubbing & that I had to zip tie it back... the next time their JD Service Ute was out my way on another job they swung by and corrected the whole assembly, for free.

I don't know? Perhaps it's because Tasmania is a small, Island State. Everyone 'seems' to know everyone else and a bad reputation travels like a bushfire. I do know that it was the good 'word in the pub' that sent me on the 5 hour (round) trip to the JD dealership.

 

[dtody1948]

I went to a JD conglomerate store. Called several locations, but only one out of the four didn't respond well. Bought from the location nearest and more responsive, but busy. One smaller equipment salesman and one larger equipment salesman and it appears the lines are drawn clearly for them. Ever try to get a call back from an attorney? It makes all salesmen look good!

 

[IXLR8]

I have the tires loaded on my DK40, and with a full load of dirt in the bucket I can't back up a slight incline without putting it in 4wd, as the rears are too lightly loaded to provide enough traction. I have a 1400lb backhoe I am about to put on it for ballast. Otherwise I will need to make up some sort of ballast box. There are lots of great ideas here on TBN for simple easy to make and functional ballast boxes.
It cost me about $400 to have the rear tires loaded if I remember correctly

 

[TripleR]

Do you want to try to make a ballast barrel or box? or depending how heavy your box blade is, you can add weight to it, but that can get kinda cumbersome. Can you build a bit? We can help you with ideas if you want. But you need 1100 lbs on the 3pt to make full use of the loader, and I reccomend loaded tires too. They help side hill stability, too, and they will help keep your tires planted for more traction when you are pulling the box blade and it is on the ground. but they will not help a bit to "unload your front axle" like 3pt weight will do. Just keep it in mind, a new tractor with no fluid in the tires and nothing on the 3pt and a powerful loader (like the DK40se has) is an invitation to disaster. Please trust us on this. We want you tractor experience to be a good one. If you go with just a box blade on the back, lets say it weighs 500 lbs.. well then don't pick up anything really heavy on the FEL, especially on sloped ground. Level ground is safer ground, slow speed is safer speed, Bucket low as possible is safer position. Proper weight on the 3pt is a safer tractor, loaded tires are good too. Well enough lecture for now, but please think about these things..

James K0UA

James K0UA

Excellent advice, we have the tires loaded or have wheel weights on all of our FEL equipped tractors and also use ballast on the 3PH when lifting anything.

 

[Steelhog]

I have always had a good experience with the Kubota/CNH dealer in Huntsville, AL. From the time (20 years ago) I was just buying tune-up parts for the Ford NAA I was borrowing until we got a Ford 3600. Then a rebuild of a Ford 2000 and last year when I bought a Kubota 3240HST for myself. At least for me it is like walking into Cheers as several of the counter guys ask how's it going and have been there for as long as I can remember and would give me just as much attention if I getting points and plugs as buying a new machine. The owner always says hello and we talk kids and football when I drop in for filters. Don't know that I got the rock bottom deal on my latest purchase but I know I'll get good support. Heck, when I was getting filters and oil for my 50 hours service one of the service guys walked me through the DIY process which in effect cost them a service visit.

 

[Haycutter]

I had the exact experience at a Kubota dealer in Montgomery. Al. I was ready to buy, but bought a John Deere instead on the same day..

 

[blitzen]

Thank you. (GManBart) Dave