kubota vs. Kioti?

[crazyal]

I can't say about all Kubota tractors but the Grand L would be easy to add a lever at the rear of the tractor for the 3pt. Under the right fender is where the lever connects to the 3pt valve. It would take very little to add a rod going to the rear. I looked into it but I really don't need it with an open station tractor.

 

[GManBart]

2nd) the cruise control doesn't just "click mechanically and you have roughly 10 settings. With this lever, you can really dial in infinite variations of speed. When I was tilling unbroken ground, I was able to dial in at .3 MPH. It may not be used all the time but when it is, it's amazing

I don't think the Kioti cruise control works that way. My LS will hold whatever speed I set with the pedals....no clicking through any settings, and I thought I remembered the Kioti working the same way. You simply push the button when you're at the speed you want it to hold.

 

[GManBart]

Now granite it's only once per hook up, but a great option to have.

I'm really hoping that was auto-correct, and you really meant "granted"! :laughing:

Now just curious, and I am not preaching safety by any stretch. Is it possible to lower an implement on yourself by using this lever?

Certainly, you could lower an implement onto yourself, but you wouldn't get stuck there...just raise the lever again. That doesn't mean you wouldn't get injured, but that's always the case. In fact, there is a safety feature to the rear 3pt lever. If you wind up in one of those oddball scenarios where you trap/pin yourself (normally a foot) down with an implement (it falls, etc), you can reach the lever to lift it, and free yourself. No, that doesn't happen often, and should be avoided with proper planning, but it happens.

 

[lilranch2001]

I'm really hoping that was auto-correct, and you really meant "granted"! :laughing:



Certainly, you could lower an implement onto yourself, but you wouldn't get stuck there...just raise the lever again. That doesn't mean you wouldn't get injured, but that's always the case. In fact, there is a safety feature to the rear 3pt lever. If you wind up in one of those oddball scenarios where you trap/pin yourself (normally a foot) down with an implement (it falls, etc), you can reach the lever to lift it, and free yourself. No, that doesn't happy often, and should be avoided with proper planning, but it happens.

I'm really hoping that was auto-correct, and you really meant "happen"!
:laughing:

 

[art]

The only features the Grand L has over the DK is the HST+ and the digital dash display.
The DK is much closer to the Grand L series than it is to the standard L.

That says an a lot! Six ranges vs three need we go on?

 

[murphy1244]

That says an a lot! Six ranges vs three need we go on?

6 is too much.

 

[art]

6 is too much.

It depends on the performance level that you want while operating your machinery. I know for many that you don't use your tractor professionally but performance does count when it comes to production. We have commercial people that run the standard tractors because of reliability and the level of their operators but they prefer the grand L's for themselves as operators as they realize the benefits of the system to get there work done in a more timely manner with less fatigue.

 

[TSO]

It depends on the performance level that you want while operating your machinery. I know for many that you don't use your tractor professionally but performance does count when it comes to production. We have commercial people that run the standard tractors because of reliability and the level of their operators but they prefer the grand L's for themselves as operators as they realize the benefits of the system to get there work done in a more timely manner with less fatigue.

Lol... So you can get "work done in a more timely manner with less fatigue" by using HST+ vs standard HST?!

Gee, sounds like the countless thousands of tractor users with regular old HST, world wide, are really missing out! Imagine all the extra things they could get done!

 

[TripleR]

For me at least the dual speed system on the HST+ is the most used of all features, I use all six on any given day no matter what I am doing.

As I have mentioned many times, I was an HST+ doubter and would not have traded my L5030 until it went toes up if not for the introduction of the L60.

 

[KenB2920]

Lol... So you can get "work done in a more timely manner with less fatigue" by using HST+ vs standard HST?!

Gee, sounds like the countless thousands of tractor users with regular old HST, world wide, are really missing out! Imagine all the extra things they could get done!

Yup, HST+ even loads my dishwasher!!!

Of The HST+ the duel feature is never used just because I forget about it. I now set it to switch automatically. I guess will see how well it works and what it does. I do think its a sweet option but I will report later how it goes.

Now the stall guard is fantastic and is always on for me.

 

[GManBart]

I'm really hoping that was auto-correct, and you really meant "happen"!
:laughing:

LOL....yep! I don't know why, but some of the words auto-correct chooses just cracks me up :laughing:

 

[KenB2920]

I'm really hoping that was auto-correct, and you really meant "granted"! :laughing:

Yes, auto correct. I don't always read what I type before I send it. It just happens. Thank you for pointing out though my flaws. It helps remind me I am not perfect. When walking on water the tops of my feet barely get wet. I am working on that too.

 

[GManBart]

I'm totally not getting the math here. I shopped most of the big brands before I narrowed it down to LS and Kioti and simply didn't see how the math even remotely worked on Kubota. I just priced out an L4740 Hydro on their website, because it was the closest in specs to my LS, and it still makes me shake my head. Both 3,800lb tractors, with around 40hp at the PTO, lift capacity of around 2500lbs to full height on the loader, with dual rear remotes, rear work lights, QA buckets, R4 tires, similar warranty (by extending the Kubota warranty), etc, etc....as apples-to-apples as possible.

My LS was $21,500 delivered (Kioti was another thousand). The Kubota website comes up with $39,500, and everybody says to expect paying 85% of that, which is $33,500. I don't have the exact number the local Kubota dealer quoted me, but it was right around there...$32K or $32.5K....something like that.

Seriously, $11K more for similar capabilities? HST+ is nice and all, but I'm not seeing an extra 50%+ in cash outlay for it.

 

[GManBart]

I'm really hoping that was auto-correct, and you really meant "granted"! :laughing:

Yes, auto correct. I don't always read what I type before I send it. It just happens. Thank you for pointing out though my flaws. It helps remind me I am not perfect. When walking on water the tops of my feet barely get wet. I am working on that too.

I was honestly just laughing about it, not being mean....and ironically, did the exact same thing in my reply. Auto-correct can be annoying, but some of it's choices just make me laugh

 

[rjwerth]

I'm totally not getting the math here. I shopped most of the big brands before I narrowed it down to LS and Kioti and simply didn't see how the math even remotely worked on Kubota. I just priced out an L4740 Hydro on their website, because it was the closest in specs to my LS, and it still makes me shake my head. Both 3,800lb tractors, with around 40hp at the PTO, lift capacity of around 2500lbs to full height on the loader, with dual rear remotes, rear work lights, QA buckets, R4 tires, similar warranty (by extending the Kubota warranty), etc, etc....as apples-to-apples as possible.

My LS was $21,500 delivered (Kioti was another thousand). The Kubota website comes up with $39,500, and everybody says to expect paying 85% of that, which is $33,500. I don't have the exact number the local Kubota dealer quoted me, but it was right around there...$32K or $32.5K....something like that.

Seriously, $11K more for similar capabilities? HST+ is nice and all, but I'm not seeing an extra 50%+ in cash outlay for it.

I was doing the exact same thing when I bought my Kioti. Want to make it even crazier? Price out a comparable Deere 4000 series.

 

[KenB2920]

If you want a really good laugh, I should send out a post that I haven't read at all. Some I read and it confuses me. Airplanes, coyotes and mouse traps can get thrown into the oddest sentences.

 

[TSO]

I'm totally not getting the math here. I shopped most of the big brands before I narrowed it down to LS and Kioti and simply didn't see how the math even remotely worked on Kubota. I just priced out an L4740 Hydro on their website, because it was the closest in specs to my LS, and it still makes me shake my head. Both 3,800lb tractors, with around 40hp at the PTO, lift capacity of around 2500lbs to full height on the loader, with dual rear remotes, rear work lights, QA buckets, R4 tires, similar warranty (by extending the Kubota warranty), etc, etc....as apples-to-apples as possible.

My LS was $21,500 delivered (Kioti was another thousand). The Kubota website comes up with $39,500, and everybody says to expect paying 85% of that, which is $33,500. I don't have the exact number the local Kubota dealer quoted me, but it was right around there...$32K or $32.5K....something like that.

Seriously, $11K more for similar capabilities? HST+ is nice and all, but I'm not seeing an extra 50%+ in cash outlay for it.

But... As an aside to that, was that the price with Kubota's 0% financing or the cash price? I believe there is a discount if you get your own financing. that was one negative to going with LS over Kioti, LS doesn't offer their own financing, especially the 0% ... although it's a moot point when comparing Kubota and Kioti, since coyote offers 0% also (i believe)

 

[TripleR]

I'm totally not getting the math here. I shopped most of the big brands before I narrowed it down to LS and Kioti and simply didn't see how the math even remotely worked on Kubota. I just priced out an L4740 Hydro on their website, because it was the closest in specs to my LS, and it still makes me shake my head. Both 3,800lb tractors, with around 40hp at the PTO, lift capacity of around 2500lbs to full height on the loader, with dual rear remotes, rear work lights, QA buckets, R4 tires, similar warranty (by extending the Kubota warranty), etc, etc....as apples-to-apples as possible.

My LS was $21,500 delivered (Kioti was another thousand). The Kubota website comes up with $39,500, and everybody says to expect paying 85% of that, which is $33,500. I don't have the exact number the local Kubota dealer quoted me, but it was right around there...$32K or $32.5K....something like that.

Seriously, $11K more for similar capabilities? HST+ is nice and all, but I'm not seeing an extra 50%+ in cash outlay for it.

Not everything is about the bottom line, my wife and I were looking at tractors not long ago and I happen to really like a couple of the bigger New Hollands, upon seeing them my wife announced, "Oh, I don't want a blue tractor", no point in even going to the LS dealer.:laughing:

 

[KenB2920]

Not everything is about the bottom line, my wife and I were looking at tractors not long ago and I happen to really like a couple of the bigger New Hollands, upon seeing them my wife announced, "Oh, I don't want a blue tractor", no point in even going to the LS dealer.:laughing:

Funny you say this, I wouldn't be apposed to buy a tractor because of its color. However, orange IS my favorite. So it does complement all my Stihl, Echo and Ariens equipment.

 

[TripleR]

Funny you say this, I don't think I WOULDN'T buy a tractor because of its color. However, orange IS my favorite. So it does complement all my Stihl, Echo and Ariens equipment.

I was of course kidding as we have red, gray, green, orange, beige and rustoleum red. I didn't seriously consider the New Holland CUTS as it is hard to keep track of who makes them. LS is really not represented in my area so I don't know much about them.