Anyone know of a hydraulic cylinder upgrade for a 5093 hitch? Factory or aftermarket. I have a Kuhn ga 4501 hay rake that my E can only lift about a foot off the ground. My old 65hp tractor could lift it no problem, but I sold it when I bought the 5093. The rake only weighs 1800lbs but the weight is fairly far back.
5E 3 point hitch upgrade?
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It shouldn't be a problem to be lifting only 1800#s Something must be wrong in the hydraulic area.
Does the tractor struggle when it is attempting to lift the rake up in the air or is it smooth.
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x2^ with Edward. Something doesn't seem right... I haven't looked at the lift capabilities of the E limited series - but, if I had to guess - seems like it should be in the 3,800lb range at least. So, even if the load is extended way off the 3pt arms; you've probably got an additional ton of lift to work.
Might want to do some more checking.
AKfish
Might want to do some more checking.
AKfish
It lifts it about half way then the tractor hydraulics start making a bunch of noises and slowly stops lifting. I spent quite a bit of time checking to make sure nothing was binding etc, but it just won't lift it. The tractor does struggle to lift some of my impliments but this is the first one so far it won't lift, perhaps the tractor has a problem?
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Tractordata shows this:Rear lift (at 24"/610mm): 3,213 lbs [1457 kg] I think a relief valve is leaking on you tractor.
Notforhire
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John Deere HEAVY DUTY HITCH KIT LVB25778
This is the kit listed for the 5M series. You would have to check with JD for fit on an E.
This is the kit listed for the 5M series. You would have to check with JD for fit on an E.
Just talked to my dealer, I guess I'm not the only one looking for more lift on an E. Salesman said he has already tried to find a kit for another customer and nothing was availiable from Deere and no aftermarket kits made for this tractor. I guess I will have to make due for now.
You have enough hyd fluid? If you don't top it up. Could be that I'm guessing.
Yes, it is full.
Mistyridgefarm
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Sounds like a relief valve. That E has plenty of cylinder to lift that much.
Grateful11
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I agree something doesn't sound right. My wife bought a 12' Precision Welding 12FC3S Cultivator loaded last Fall with 21 tines, spike bars, adjustable tires and roller basket on the rear and that thing is heavy. The 5065M had no problem lifting and moving it but she doesn't pull it with it she uses the the 5140 for that. That basket on the back is made with 3/4" rebar and it is heavy and hangs way off the back.
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MattLynch
I'd recommend getting a 3000# gauge and checking pressure.
I'd recommend getting a 3000# gauge and checking pressure.
Notforhire
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Jim, is the pressure at the rear remotes the same as the system pressure for the TPH?
Bill
After talking to the dealer I am pretty sure that because most of the rakes weight is about 8 feet behind the tractor it exceeds the lift capacity of the hitch. They suggested I move the top link up to the top hole, but that's about all I can really do. After hay is done I may get it checked out anyway. I guess a 15' rotary rake is a bit much for my little E.
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My neighbor has a new model Kuhn rotary rake. Gotta be 14+ feet at least. He uses it behind a 75hp Ford (no loader) - wanna think it's a 7700 or 7710 (don't exactly recall the model..) But, that tractor can't have more lift capacity than your 5093E! Update edit... those Ford's are in the 4,400lb range on the 3pt. So, they do have a lot more "uummph" than your 93e!
But, I'd still have it checked...
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Yes have it checked I put my E in the shop for leaking Hyd, leaking fuel tank and tach had stopped working. When I got it back they had torn the entire rear end apart. Apparently there was a problem with my Lift but they said it was fixed. It is a 2012 model 5045
Zebrafive
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I don't think it would work. M series use two lift cylinders. 5093 only uses one cylinder.
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The rear transaxle housing on the M's and E's is as different as night and day! The external lift cylinders on the M have a lower attachment point that is integral to the axle housing. So, in order to upgrade the 3pt you would have to basically swap out the entire @ss end of the tractor!
And of course, the rear end of that horse has to attach to the front torso!
I don't think you could build that horse from over here....
AKfish
I was looking and I could rig up external cylinders pretty easily but the rear end of the E is pretty light duty compared to the M. I would be worried about breaking the trans housing lifting something too heavy. In the future I may install rear cylinders and just be careful to keep it under 4500lbs or something reasonable.
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