Anyone modified a pull type, 3 bottom plow to 3 point?

[sd455dan]

I tried finding a reasonably priced used 3 point 3 bottom plow for the fields on our 10 acres. Well a deal came up on a John Deere pull type hydraulic controlled depth/transport wheeled 3 bottom and I purchased it. The problem is on the size of fields most of the time will be spent getting turned around at the end of each furrow, here's the plow The other option other than using it as is, or moddifying it would be to trade or sell and find a 3 point version,but time is running short.. what do you think??

 

[js5020]

I converted an older rope trip JD 2 bottom many years ago, basically used the lift axle brackets for the 3pt lift arm bar, cut off the frame forward, moved the front frame piece and drilled holes to keep the structure of the frame, and welded a bracket for the top link. Welds must be Good no chicken poop, and the lift arm bar needs to be set correctly for side to side position so they pull right but it can and has been done.

 

[Sonny580]

I did an AC 2 bottom and have used it for 7 years.---cut the front beams down short as possible and remove axles levers (mine didnt have any,--someone stole them) ---then I added the 3-pt. adapter parts and got my plow! thanks; sonny 580

 

[DJ54]

With Craigslist at your fingertips, I'd try a "want to trade" ad in the farm machinery. As many are getting back into "plowing days" someone might be looking for a decent pull type for behind a classic G, or something comparable, and willing to trade, or maybe a little boot. Depends on how bad one wants the other's plow..., LOL... Worth a shot..!!

 

[6011Artist]

Your old plow looks to be in decent condition and some of the tractor clubs are having "plowing days" to teach the collectors how their tractors were used back in the day. So it might be very tradeable.

If that option doesn't work then I'd find a plow like I wanted and measure it up and pay close attention to how it was built and go home and cut out the parts I needed and add to them to build what I wanted. That is easily done with old equipment, convert old into new.

Like js said, no chicken poop welding as there will be lots of pressure on it.

I guess I got lucky and bought a good heavy duty 3ph 2 bottom plow for 32.00. Guess it was my lucky day. Was at an auction and it was going cheap so I bought it. Don't use it...but if I ever need it....

 

[sd455dan]

With Craigslist at your fingertips, I'd try a "want to trade" ad in the farm machinery. As many are getting back into "plowing days" someone might be looking for a decent pull type for behind a classic G, or something comparable, and willing to trade, or maybe a little boot. Depends on how bad one wants the other's plow..., LOL... Worth a shot..!!

Checked the local Craigs list - only two wanted ads both looking for 3 point versions:confused3: so I think I will go ahead and try as is, if I can get it broke up some (the ground not the plow) then take the disc i got last year maybe get the field smoothed out, also have a 84" tiller ,but it needs gear work... always something ...

 

[R W]

Looks to good to alter.
Have worked bigger trailing machines on a lot less than 10 acreas.

 

[6011Artist]

sd, I'd be working on that tillar. Having a tillar is why I never use my bottom plow.

I looked at my bottom plow yesterday after reading your post and it was simple constructed. Cutting out the portion you need to save and converting it to 3 point would not be that hard to do, just do it strong n solid.

 

[sd455dan]

Looks to good to alter.
Have worked bigger trailing machines on a lot less than 10 acreas.

I think that's my problem, kind of hate to cut up , the only JD piece of equipment I own

 

[Renze]

Hmm ive been watching this for three days now, and you aint got 'r done yet ?

 

[sd455dan]

sd, I'd be working on that tillar. Having a tillar is why I never use my bottom plow.

I looked at my bottom plow yesterday after reading your post and it was simple constructed. Cutting out the portion you need to save and converting it to 3 point would not be that hard to do, just do it strong n solid.

Here's the chinese tiller, can't seem to identify it was bought with the Rhino tractor at same time in 1993, the nut backed off of the mainshaft to the gear drive on the left side of tiller when that happened it broke a tooth on the two spider gears that turn the power 90 degrees. doubt parts are available. Here's the only data plate on it looked thru rhino servis-site can't find it there??

 

[sd455dan]

Hmm ive been watching this for three days now, and you aint got 'r done yet ?

Taking it a little slower after my (bone head move) in owning and operating... the wife is probably feeling a little bit like her husband has a tractor addiction:drool:

 

[Bilko]

Dan, if I am not mistaken that tiller looks to be a Ieski model!

 

[sd455dan]

Dan, if I am not mistaken that tiller looks to be a Ieski model!

Wow ! really, I had assumed that since it was bought with a Rhino International Tractor and the implements the dealer was selling that were in the fliers that came with the tractor referred to Rhino Servis tillers and such I just assumed the writing was Chinese not Japanese, The plot thickens!! This tiller's a full 85" wide does Iseki build them that large?? here's a shot of the gear covers it also is a 2 speed unit the gears under the center cover can be exchanged for a second tilling speed, would really like to fix this tiller...

 

[6011Artist]

Dan, google Danny Parker Equipment Co. Thorsby Al. He might can help you out on the tiller. He has over 500 tractors in his salvage yard and I understand most of the grey markets came with tillers when shipped. By yours having chinese writing, it's a grey market tiller.

 

[sd455dan]

I think that's my problem, kind of hate to cut up , the only JD piece of equipment I own View attachment 309204

I have decided to take RW and 6011 Artists advise, and not rebuild the plow into a 3 point. Going to just go ahead (at least for this year) and use the plow as is, run out of time.. Thanks everybody for the advise i do appreciate it. :thumbsup:

 

[sd455dan]

Dan, google Danny Parker Equipment Co. Thorsby Al. He might can help you out on the tiller. He has over 500 tractors in his salvage yard and I understand most of the grey markets came with tillers when shipped. By yours having chinese writing, it's a grey market tiller.

thanks , I will try and check that out, also think I'll post a do you recognize this tiller, but for the moment I'm going to go ahead and try to plow, and then disc the field, need to get this done before the Knapp weed comes up again, going to try and plant some sort of field grass for the horses

 

[sd455dan]

Here's the chinese tiller,View attachment 309206 can't seem to identify it was bought with the Rhino tractor at same time in 1993, the nut backed off of the mainshaft to the gear drive on the left side of tiller when that happened it broke a tooth on the two spider gears that turn the power 90 degrees. doubt parts are available. Here's the only data plate on itView attachment 309207 looked thru rhino servis-site can't find it there??

Update - went a head and plowed the field with the JD pull behind 3 bottom but there are areas that are just to hard to back the plow into so i went ahead and bandaid repaired the tiller .
Once I got it apart, it was the same problem that caused the gear damage the first time, the nut that secures the ring gear to the horizontal shaft that drives the auger gears came off...sooo this time I found another retainer and used the red- high strength anerobic threadlocker and placed a small weld on the second retainer to the nut! the pinion has some chipped teeth but There is enough engagement to drive the ring.
put it all back together and it seems to work ok here's the internals oh i did get the silicone gasket chunk out of the case before it got sealed up and also how this isn't the top notch repair , but this tiller has been bent,broken and welded six ways to Sunday and left for dead at least 5 times over the last 20 years.
Plus it was free to me, Originally as just a 3 point weight- so I could plow snow with the Ford 3000