Why you should change your oil

[Carl_NH]

I sure miss Builder.

Chris

What are you inferring "builder" as it seems to be an "inside joke".

Been around TBN for a long time, so what gives?

 

[timswi]

What are you inferring "builder" as it seems to be an "inside joke".

Been around TBN for a long time, so what gives?

I think he believes someone changed their screen name...Could be wrong.

 

[Soundguy]

I think he believes someone changed their screen name...Could be wrong.

I believe that as well.

 

[crashz]

An actual sending unit on a 2001 f150?

That's the first I've heard that. No calling you a liar or anything, but I've replaced a lot of oil sending units on those generation of trucks they've all been the on/off variety.

Its been a few years, but as far as I remember, there was actually two sending units. One for the gauge and one for the ECM. The guage one had a "bulb" to it, so I thought it was a full sending unit. This was on a 4.2L V6.

I was also under the impression that it was a full sending unit, as you could removing the damping to the gauge by bypassing a set of resistors in the cluster. Of course I'm speaking from memory of info I learned 8-9 years ago, so it could be a little cloudy.

 

[sld]

Its been a few years, but as far as I remember, there was actually two sending units. One for the gauge and one for the ECM. The guage one had a "bulb" to it, so I thought it was a full sending unit. This was on a 4.2L V6.

I was also under the impression that it was a full sending unit, as you could removing the damping to the gauge by bypassing a set of resistors in the cluster. Of course I'm speaking from memory of info I learned 8-9 years ago, so it could be a little cloudy.

You may be correct. With a scan gauge hooked to the OBDII port you can get exact readings on almost all parameters.

 

[Soundguy]

i would think the psd's would have a real sender for the ECU to look at. The fuel injection on the PSD's uses oil in part of the process.. etc.

 

[Dmace]

I'm all for real gauges but make them an option so my wife isn't flippin out everytime the needle isn't in the "normal" range.

What are you inferring "builder" as it seems to be an "inside joke".

Been around TBN for a long time, so what gives?

Builder was another poster with very valuable information and "real world" experience as a contractor with heavy equipment and not some weekend mechanic repeating the same stories of their neighbors.
As is typical around here though, he wasn't a Ford fan so he was blasted and put down at every chance until giving up and not posting in this area anymore...

I miss his information as well along with pics of that beautiful 4x4 dump truck. Just search his username and you'll see.

 

[Soundguy]

I'm all for real gauges but make them an option so my wife isn't flippin out everytime the needle isn't in the "normal" range..

I 'WANT' my wife to flip out when needle is not where it should be.

that's how you save a vehicle from overheating, or running without oil.

What I'd be in favor of are customizeable digital dashes. with flat touchscreen panel tech so easy to do ( ipads..e tc.. ) you could configure a dash with any gauge set the ecu/engine sensors could support. have analog needle gauge display.. digital segment display.. etc., numerical display.

you should even be able to configure it for some basics.. like spedo and idiot lamps .. like a simple message center... just show speed and then if a problem occurs.. have the dash flash red overtones to get your attention.

tech has been available for this for MANY years. that display and a simple DSP.. and the average cellphone has enough cpu power to run it.

heck.. a bluetooth tether to your smartphone/pad/tablet and display extra engine data that way.. etc.

 

[94BULLITT]

heck.. a bluetooth tether to your smartphone/pad/tablet and display extra engine data that way.. etc.

You can get the "Torque" app for android. That lets watch your gauage and sensors. You can also use it for a scanner in generic OBDII. You have to buy a bluetooth adapter for the OBDII port.

 

[yelbike]

You can get the "Torque" app for android. That lets watch your gauage and sensors. You can also use it for a scanner in generic OBDII. You have to buy a bluetooth adapter for the OBDII port.

Where??

 

[Soundguy]

now if the dash just had all that built in. had one info center.. have radio controls and all there.. could be all touch screen even.. if you wanted it.

grab a gauge and enlarge it with 2 fingers like on a smart phone.. move a gauge somewhere else.. don't have anything hard coded in place.. other than a few usable defaults to just get in and go and customize later. maybee have a few memory spots to save different gauge setups..e tc..

 

[94BULLITT]

Where??

You can get a el cheapo of ebay. I got one and it did not work.

Then I was going to get This one. It looked like the best for the money but I never did buy one.

Here is a list of adapters.

 

[Peacock]

i would think the psd's would have a real sender for the ECU to look at. The fuel injection on the PSD's uses oil in part of the process.. etc.

Different oil pressure. The HEUI system uses the HPOP to pressurize oil to pressures between 600 and 3000psi. It uses the IPR and ICP to regulate and monitor the pressure.

 

[clemsonfor]

now if the dash just had all that built in. had one info center.. have radio controls and all there.. could be all touch screen even.. if you wanted it.

grab a gauge and enlarge it with 2 fingers like on a smart phone.. move a gauge somewhere else.. don't have anything hard coded in place.. other than a few usable defaults to just get in and go and customize later. maybee have a few memory spots to save different gauge setups..e tc..

YeA that would be cool, but its not like trucks do not already cost to much, all we need is electronics that will last 10 years then tweak out. I mean these trucks today cost as much as a small starter home!!!

 

[Soundguy]

Different oil pressure. The HEUI system uses the HPOP to pressurize oil to pressures between 600 and 3000psi. It uses the IPR and ICP to regulate and monitor the pressure.

and I see my point completely sailed over your head.

think outside the box.

if you have no oil pressure.. which your oil pressure gauge should be telling you that you are having issues... then you will be having injection issues soon to.

say you have a leak and are loosing oil.. most machines I've seen start showing lower oil pressure and fluctuations when you get to the point where the pickup is having troubling getting oil from the sump. around that time you should be having injection issues as well. IE.. everything's related.

 

[Soundguy]

YeA that would be cool, but its not like trucks do not already cost to much, all we need is electronics that will last 10 years then tweak out. I mean these trucks today cost as much as a small starter home!!!

really? a 50K$ truck and you are complaining about a 500$ touch screen mod?

leave the chrome 4" tail pipe down elbow off and call it even..

it may even be cheaper if you figure that you don't need all those gauge bodies in that dash cluster, and instead just need a screen interfaced to the 'new' ecu.// etc..

 

[clemsonfor]

I neither own a truck worth over $3 grand nor have a smart phone. I wont pay for a 50k truck or for a phone that I cant use more than half the day.

 

[Carl_NH]

I'm all for real gauges but make them an option so my wife isn't flippin out everytime the needle isn't in the "normal" range.

Builder was another poster with very valuable information and "real world" experience as a contractor with heavy equipment and not some weekend mechanic repeating the same stories of their neighbors.
As is typical around here though, he wasn't a Ford fan so he was blasted and put down at every chance until giving up and not posting in this area anymore...

I miss his information as well along with pics of that beautiful 4x4 dump truck. Just search his username and you'll see.

Thanks dmace for the reply that clears it up some. I'll just stay agnostic on brands as its how you treat them.

Carl

 

[Soundguy]

I neither own a truck worth over $3 grand nor have a smart phone. I wont pay for a 50k truck or for a phone that I cant use more than half the day.

I've always owned used trucks too..

 

[yelbike]

You can get a el cheapo of ebay. I got one and it did not work.

Then I was going to get This one. It looked like the best for the money but I never did buy one.

Here is a list of adapters.

Personnally I think it would be another under used toy for me.

Check Engine Diagnostics * not something my OBDII reader can't do.
Real-time gauges *could be nice IF there are more gauges then I already have if the dash.
Fuel Efficiency and MPG * Already in the info center
Engine Sensors * Would neat, not sure how usefull though
Customizable Dashboard *cool factor
Real-time Dyno
Data Logging

The data logging might be real nice to help diagnostics if you logged good mile, so you could refer to them when you have real problems.

Thanks for the links tho. I think I'll leave this item on "it might be nice to have" list.


GPS Track Mapping
Skid Pad
Video recording and data overlay