New kioti or used?

[Illini22]

I've looked at a 2004 lb1914 with loader and chipper (no need for chipper) with 200 hours. Two lk 3054's with loaders, one had a 5' bush hog (off brand). One had 850 hours the other was near 300. Both were in the 1990's. All of these tractors were around $7000. I didn't negotiate with the lb1914 because I think I want a little more tractor. The guy with one of the lk 3054 said he would take 6500. It's in decent but not outstanding shape, faded a bit, just looks a little dated. Ran well with no blow by or smoke besides starting.
I have 6 somewhat flat acres for a future homesite. It's on a lake, so I have 300' of frontage with a slope that is easily walk able. I have a small building and about 400 feet of gravel driveway. My current tractor a b7100 hst 4x4 doesn't have wloader and I have been wanting one since 2006.
I recently saw a ds3510 for $13,999, ($600 for delivery) on tractor house, I didn't think that was to bad of a price with a loader. I then saw a new 2011 ck35 hst with loader for 15999, close to home. I emailed local dealer and asked about a2012 ck 20hst because that would probably me more than enough tractor. He quoted 14,500 for it and 14799 for the2012 ds3510. I may not be able to get a agricultural tax exception because of a farm our family owns.
I am thinking the prices between the new and used is to close not to go new. I would've thought and hoped the ck20 hst would be more than $1500 cheaper than the ck 35hst. The ck35 is a year older but seems like much, much more tractor. Any thoughts or advice. I do have a mahindra dealer not to far away and a bobcat dealer. Thanks for the replys,

 

[k0ua]

The CK35 looks like a bargain to me. especially if it had a SSQA on the loader bucket. It would be inclined to go with new.. but that is just me

James K0UA

 

[Illini22]

I know the ck 35 and the ds3510 are quick attach, although the ck has 2 levers and the ds had one that operated both connection points. The ck 20 im not sure about. I know the ck20's hydraulic pump output was much lower Thant the ds 3510 and the ck 35. I miss typed about a potential tax exception if I buy local, I should qualify. If I buy the ds in Alabama it is a non issue. I really don't want to spend $14000 plus for a tractor but can't justify (without your help) spending $6500-$7000 for something 18 years old. It just seems the ck20s should be cheaper.

 

[davidhagler]

I had the same delima and decided to go New because of the warranty and knowing they will take care of it for a few years. You will be satisified for sure. Used in Tractors as in cars, sometimes is buying someones problems. I have the DK45SE HST and love it.

 

[murphy1244]

I had the same delima and decided to go New because of the warranty and knowing they will take care of it for a few years. You will be satisified for sure. Used in Tractors as in cars, sometimes is buying someones problems. I have the DK45SE HST and love it.

Nice Tractor and welcome to TBN

 

[Gittyup]

The ck35 is one of the best buys out there. That would be the way I would go.

 

[art]

You might want to look at the Bobcats which are the same. They are being discontinued so big price reductions are the normal!

 

[Illini22]

Dave, I'm leaning towards new because, the age of the used ones I've looked at and the difference in price isn't all that great when factoring in the age, manual trans (no shuttle either), quick attach, warranty and many other things that could go wrong with a 18 year old tractor. I just don't want to spend $14000-$16000, lol. Gittyup, I think your right about the ck35, seems like a lot more tractor than the ck20, lift capacity, hydraulic pump flow, telescoping links, 3 speed hydro versus 2, and only $1500 more, lol! Art, your right about the bobcat, they are a little further away but, it doesn't hurt to see what they have to say.

 

[Illini22]

Well, I put a deposit down on a new 2011 ck35 hst. Quick attatch loader, suspension seat, grill guard, telescoping links and r4 tires. The price on tractorhouse actually went down because Kioti added an additional $500 rebate. I'm also considering adding the Kioti remotes (2sets) for a little under $800. Unless their are better setups elsewhere. I'm also going to purchase a box blade and a ratchet rake or tooth bar and a cutting edge if its needed.

 

[MtnViewRanch]

Well, I put a deposit down on a new 2011 ck35 hst. Quick attatch loader, suspension seat, grill guard, telescoping links and r4 tires. The price on tractorhouse actually went down because Kioti added an additional $500 rebate. I'm also considering adding the Kioti remotes (2sets) for a little under $800. Unless their are better setups elsewhere. I'm also going to purchase a box blade and a ratchet rake or tooth bar and a cutting edge if its needed.

Get the Kioti remotes. OEM is the way to go. Be sure that you get one if not both of them (if you can) with the float function. When you order the box blade, see if you can get a 66" wide unit. Whatever width that you end up with, get the heaviest one that you can afford. Weight is usually your friend when it comes to grading.

Good luck with everything and be sure to post some pictures when you get it.

 

[JDL538]

Well, I put a deposit down on a new 2011 ck35 hst. Quick attatch loader, suspension seat, grill guard, telescoping links and r4 tires. The price on tractorhouse actually went down because Kioti added an additional $500 rebate. I'm also considering adding the Kioti remotes (2sets) for a little under $800. Unless their are better setups elsewhere. I'm also going to purchase a box blade and a ratchet rake or tooth bar and a cutting edge if its needed.

I know where you can buy a NEW CK20 with loader in N.KY a GOOD DEALER $9900. HST I think. It is on Craigs list---CINTI,just put in KIOTI under tractor.

 

[Harvey9]

Good choice on the CK35.

 

[Illini22]

Jdl, now you tell me! Lol! Thats a great price. Harv, thanks for the kind words
Mtnviewranch, I've read many of your replys to simple people like myself. Thank you for telling me oem is the way to go. I know nothing about hydraulics (but will soon). I defiantly will go with two sets or none at all. You said to make sure it has a float function? Is that oem? I will ask the salesmen tomorrow. Should I ask about the top and tilt cylinders, lines and fittings. Sorry for sounding stupid but, I am not familiar with all the extras that are needed?

 

[DK35vince]

I'm not sure that Kioti remotes are offered with the float option.
My DK remotes don't have float, and I never needed it.

 

[94BULLITT]

You can get float on the remotes.

 

[MtnViewRanch]

Jdl, now you tell me! Lol! Thats a great price. Harv, thanks for the kind words
Mtnviewranch, I've read many of your replys to simple people like myself. Thank you for telling me oem is the way to go. I know nothing about hydraulics (but will soon). I defiantly will go with two sets or none at all. You said to make sure it has a float function? Is that oem? I will ask the salesmen tomorrow. Should I ask about the top and tilt cylinders, lines and fittings. Sorry for sounding stupid but, I am not familiar with all the extras that are needed?

My understanding is that the float function valve IS AN OPTION from Kioti and that is what I would get. Always better to have that function and not need it vs needing it and not having it. As far as the Top & Tilt set-up, not sure how or even if the dealer will help you out with that. Kioti does not offer an OEM set as far as I know of. You can get a complete "TnT" set from me :thumbsup: made for your tractor for $530 + shipping cost. That includes the 2 hydraulic links, 2 hose sets with male QD ends and flow restrictors to make adjustments easier and more precise.

 

[Illini22]

Mtnviewranch, I'll be in contact as soon as I take delivery. Thanks for the info on the float, I'll e sure to ask about it.

 

[MtnViewRanch]

Remember, when checking on the box blade, AS HEAVY AS YOU CAN AFFORD.

 

[94BULLITT]

Remember, when checking on the box blade, AS HEAVY AS YOU CAN AFFORD.

I'll second that.

I would rather have a heavy used one than a light new.

 

[Illini22]

Bullitt, mtnv, can you recommend a few? Everything attachments? Or others. If I could finda used one close idchave no problem picking one up.