Re: Another Tractor, need advice

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MacTractor

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Re: Another Tractor, need advice

Hi Folks,

A couple of years back my wife and I moved to be closer to family and as part of the move I had sold my BX25 as we did not know if we would build with property in our new location. We ended up building on an acre lot with a very challenging driveway. It is gravel approx 800 feet long and very steep. I got a few quotes from companies for snow removal which really is justifcation for me to buy another tractor. I would like something that I can put a rear blower along with the FEL and a mower. I seem to be all over the road on options, hence I am looking for some advice.

I have a faimily member who has basically a brand new (1Yr old B3300SU with a rear 64" Kubota Blower). He basically said he would consider selling it to me for $20K. It has no mower and would require a rear mower as there is no mid PTO. I would love to do but am not sure I can swing 20K. It is my fisrt choice if I could swing it. Alternatively, I found a used 2006 B7510 that looks basically new with only 178 hours. It has a rear blower and 60 MMM but the blower seems to be an economy model as it doesn't seem to have adjustable shoes. (gravel driveway) He is offering a good deal on it (14K +/-) but I am concerned about the 21 HP. It also has Turfs, which is not my first choice.

The JD dealer is quoting the 1026R but again, I think it might be too small. He is now going to quote the 2320 but I would assume the B3300SU would actually be a better deal.

I live in Canada on the East Coast, so if the pricing seems wack, this is why. Also, they all have loaders.

I will try to send a picture of the driveway, but to put it in perspective I asked 5 people to quote. 3 would not take it on, an the others quoted $120 a plow without any real guarentee that they could do it as if we get a good dumping, they will not be able to get up to plow out.

I am open to advice

Cheers,
 
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If the B3300SU is just the tractor and snow blower, then that is a heck of a deal....... For him:eek:. You could by a new B3300SU for around $15,000 according Kubota's build and price. Now if it has a loader and backhoe, then that would be a fair price. Good luck.
 
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You know, almost everyone has 0% for 60 right now.
 
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800 feet of driveway is pretty long. Your neck will get tired with a rear blower pretty fast. I think you are on the right track with a sub compact or the b series or 2320. The new BX70 is going to have a loader mounted blade as a option. That would work good for the small storm then you could use the rear blower for the big stuff. Like Mark said most brands are doing 0% for 60 and Kubota is doing no payment til April 1, 2013. If you have a real steep driveway you may want to get a set of v bar tire chains.
 
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Re: Another Tractor, need advice

Hi Folks,

A couple of years back my wife and I moved to be closer to family and as part of the move I had sold my BX25 as we did not know if we would build with property in our new location. We ended up building on an acre lot with a very challenging driveway. It is gravel approx 800 feet long and very steep. I got a few quotes from companies for snow removal which really is justifcation for me to buy another tractor. I would like something that I can put a rear blower along with the FEL and a mower. I seem to be all over the road on options, hence I am looking for some advice.

I have a faimily member who has basically a brand new (1Yr old B3300SU with a rear 64" Kubota Blower). He basically said he would consider selling it to me for $20K. It has no mower and would require a rear mower as there is no mid PTO. I would love to do but am not sure I can swing 20K. It is my fisrt choice if I could swing it. Alternatively, I found a used 2006 B7510 that looks basically new with only 178 hours. It has a rear blower and 60 MMM but the blower seems to be an economy model as it doesn't seem to have adjustable shoes. (gravel driveway) He is offering a good deal on it (14K +/-) but I am concerned about the 21 HP. It also has Turfs, which is not my first choice.

The JD dealer is quoting the 1026R but again, I think it might be too small. He is now going to quote the 2320 but I would assume the B3300SU would actually be a better deal.

I live in Canada on the East Coast, so if the pricing seems wack, this is why. Also, they all have loaders.

I will try to send a picture of the driveway, but to put it in perspective I asked 5 people to quote. 3 would not take it on, an the others quoted $120 a plow without any real guarentee that they could do it as if we get a good dumping, they will not be able to get up to plow out.

I am open to advice

Cheers,

I agree that the price on the used B3300 seems a bit high for used, even with a loader.

I really think your best bet is to price a new machine because of the current 0% financing and no payments until April promotion going on now. For an acre, a BX would be a good size, however only if your acre is at the top or bottom of the very steep drive. If you have to run the machine on a hilly property, then that may be a bit much for a BX. In that case, I'd recommend moving up to the B2x20 series. A little bit bigger with a little better ground clearance.

If you buy new, you can option it up and add attachments to get the exact setup you want. In your case, I think a front mount blower might be your best bet for that long of a drive if you need to use it throughout most of the winter. Then you can add a mid-mount mower.
 
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Re: Another Tractor, need advice

Thanks for the posts everyone.

I priced out a new 3300SU here and with Loader and Blower is comes to around $20500 before tax. Tax here is 13% so the argument that was presented to me was that at $20K on the 1 year old one I would be saving the tax. ($2665)

Again, I am in Atlantic Canada with pricing basically BS.

So here are my options:

1.. New 3300SU for 20.5K plust 13% Tax (Loader/Rear Blower)
2.. New 2320HST for 19.5K plus 13% Tax (Loader/Mower/Rear Blower)
3.. Used 2011 L3200 170 hrs for 19K no tax (Loader but no blower) Used local in Kijij (Might be too big for mowing the lawn)
4.. User 2006 7510 180 hrs for 14.5K no tax (Loader/MMM/Rear Blower) (Blower is kind of crappy)

The last option is to go down a notch to a BX2660, but I am not sure if this will be the best approach.

I like the 7510 but am concerned about the 21HP for my driveway with a blower.

Thoughts?
 
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Re: Another Tractor, need advice

Hi Folks,


The JD dealer is quoting the 1026R but again, I think it might be too small. He is now going to quote the 2320 but I would assume the B3300SU would actually be a better deal.

I am open to advice

Cheers,

For one acre, I can't believe the 1026R would be to small. I have a X740 diesel which is 2WD and smaller and I can blow a 700 foot driveway after a foot of snow in about an hour a little bit. I would get a front mount blower, if it was me, for a more enjoyable blow. I don't know your average snowfall or how steep the driveway is but 1026r seems pretty capable, but I never drove one. If you get a much bigger tractor, what are the plans for it on the off-snow season?
 
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Re: Another Tractor, need advice

For me it is the slope and size of my driveway. I had a BX25 in the past and found it to be a great machine. I told myself many times that if I had the option to do it again, I would have picked a larger tractor as there were many times it would have made things easier.

I plan on mowing and completing the landscaping here on my property as it is a basically a new build. Lots to do with it. I like the idea of the 1026R for the mowing, but would prefer the 2320 I think. I am leaning Kubota again.

Like buying a boat.....


For one acre, I can't believe the 1026R would be to small. I have a X740 diesel which is 2WD and smaller and I can blow a 700 foot driveway after a foot of snow in about an hour a little bit. I would get a front mount blower, if it was me, for a more enjoyable blow. I don't know your average snowfall or how steep the driveway is but 1026r seems pretty capable, but I never drove one. If you get a much bigger tractor, what are the plans for it on the off-snow season?
 
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Re: Another Tractor, need advice

MacTractor,

I don't think you need to worry about PTO horsepower based on my experience with a 60" 3-pt snowblower on a manual JD 750 4x4 tractor. The blower was nothing special I bought used and had it many years before selling the tractor and all the implements. The JD only had 18 hp at the pto and had manual trans with only 2 reverse gears and it did everything I needed and more. It would toss snow a good 30 feet or so. It also had turf tires and chains were used when it snowed as some of the driveways were really steep.
 
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MacTractor said:
Thanks for the posts everyone.

I priced out a new 3300SU here and with Loader and Blower is comes to around $20500 before tax. Tax here is 13% so the argument that was presented to me was that at $20K on the 1 year old one I would be saving the tax. ($2665)

Again, I am in Atlantic Canada with pricing basically BS.

So here are my options:

1.. New 3300SU for 20.5K plust 13% Tax (Loader/Rear Blower)
2.. New 2320HST for 19.5K plus 13% Tax (Loader/Mower/Rear Blower)
3.. Used 2011 L3200 170 hrs for 19K no tax (Loader but no blower) Used local in Kijij (Might be too big for mowing the lawn)
4.. User 2006 7510 180 hrs for 14.5K no tax (Loader/MMM/Rear Blower) (Blower is kind of crappy)

The last option is to go down a notch to a BX2660, but I am not sure if this will be the best approach.

I like the 7510 but am concerned about the 21HP for my driveway with a blower.

Thoughts?

I would go with the 330SU, it is only 1k more than than the 2320 and you get more power. I don't think you can have too much power for a rear blower. I think the L3200 is getting little big to mow with in some yards. If you had a BX before and always wanted something bigger now is the time to go bigger.
 
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MacTractor,

I wanted to add pictures to my post above, but couldn't find them at first.

Here's a couple of photos to show what 18 pto hp will do for reference. The blower was in Inland SA-60 with a fan of approximately 20" diameter.

DSC_0398.jpg DSC_0408.jpg DSC_0420.jpg
 
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Considering you only have to maintain ONE acre and need loader, mower and snowblower, the B7510 should be a no-brainer. That tractor will do all the things you listed and then some. I would say if you get chains on it (it would be a must in the winter for any of tractor your options) it will be darn near perfect. I had a B7510 with turfs and it handled the following list: mow 2 acres with 60" MMM, 6' rear blade, 5' snowblower, 5" wood chipper, also hauled 4-5 cords of wood/year. Did that with turf tires and chains in the winter. I bought my B7800 because it is a little better at the firewood operation and not too big for the other tasks, but that's about it. I would suggest you save a few loonies and still get the job done with a smile.
 
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13% sales tax! Unreal!
 
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The 7510 is probably more tractor than you think. I purchased mine in 2007 and have 800 hours on it. I'm from the deep south and have no experience with snow - but my 7510 has surprised me more than once on it's power and pulling ability. I'm running manual gears so I'm normally in 1st gear low range when tilling with the PTO. Down South I bought a B3200 with FEL for 16K. I went with the B3200 because it has a mid PTO. This is a sweet tractor which I use for brush cutting and lot shredding. My 7510 with MMM is a lawn tractor on steriods.
 
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I'm in the 7510 camp. 21 HP and turfs are not a problem. I had a B6200 4wd (15 HP). I ran a 60" rear blower sometimes with chains. Had to go slow but with another 6 HP it would be a non-problem.

You can fairly easily change the skids ...I did that.

Get the 7510, add chains, get a rear blade for normal snows then switch to the blower for the big dumps.
 

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