4Wheel drive in DS4110

[Kioti Lee]

Hi. I have owned my DS4110 for a year now and been pretty pleased with it ( switch problems, dealer made right) but I am so frustrated with it now I am not sure I want to keep it. It has been hard to put in 4 wheel drive since I got it but now it is almost impossible to do so. The dealer suggested using the bucket to get the front wheels off ground and rock it. That worked for a while, but that doesn't even help any more. Looking for suggestions on how to put in and take out of 4 wheel drive. Thanks Hope this is how to post something have never done it, usally can find someone else post to solve my problems.. VERY helpful site

 

[LaVoie Equipment]

That tractor is notorious for being difficult to engage the 4wd. I would almost say everyone we have sold is difficult until you figure out the procedure. Try this and your issues should go away.

First take a can of your favorite lubricant - for this I use pb blaster. Spray all the linkage LIBERALLY. The shaft that engages the 4wd runs through the transmission case and is dry (not lubricated, use a lot of penetrating lube!). If you wash it regularly or have run in mud water can seep in between shaft and transmission and make it difficult to shift.

Now for shifting while operating. Whatever gear you choose is OK not fast, at idle is good. We typically find forward or reverse is OK to engage 4wd. Drive forward pulling up on 4wd lever, steer easily left or right and it will engage. At that moment it is perfect position. Work in and out lubricate liberally and in time it will become loose.

Perfect mesh is hard to come by on a new tractor - don't fear, it will get better.

 

[Kioti Lee]

? you pull up or push down to engage..mine engages by pushing down.. thanks for the tips will try at daylite..have been in muddy water

 

[LaVoie Equipment]

Push down engages, pull up disengages 4wd. Don't forget to steer a little.

 

[Kioti Lee]

Update on the 4 wheel drive..Your input was of great help..Sprayed all linkage with PB ..and turned wheels while trying to engage, it took a few minutes but did go in..mowed field/swamp.. disengaged.. was a real pain to reengage used bucket to lift front end, drove slowing turning wheels, forward reverse..finally it went in.. Is there anything I can do to speed up the process and it "getting better" ..4 wheel drive is an important feature where I use my tractor..

 

[dennis52]

My DS4510 4WD change was a bit tight when new but , as I stay in 4WD all the time , it didn't concern me too much. I changed to 2WD a couple of times over the first 100hrs , just to give the shaft some use , but haven't changed to 2WD at all for around 200hrs.

Tested it after reading this thread and it was pretty stiff so, as suggested by Tony at LaVoie , I've given the linkage a good spray with WD40 this afternoon.

Something else to put on the maintenance schedule

 

[LaVoie Equipment]

Update on the 4 wheel drive..Your input was of great help..Sprayed all linkage with PB ..and turned wheels while trying to engage, it took a few minutes but did go in..mowed field/swamp.. disengaged.. was a real pain to reengage used bucket to lift front end, drove slowing turning wheels, forward reverse..finally it went in.. Is there anything I can do to speed up the process and it "getting better" ..4 wheel drive is an important feature where I use my tractor..

The only way is to take linkage off shaft that is in transmission and hose down with pb rotate linkage with pliers. When you get free enough you will know. Maybe a 30 min process. Sorry you are having problem. Your dealer can address this if still under warranty. I would.

 

[Kioti Lee]

I will give dealer a call. They have been very helpful. The problem is I can not get the tractor to a road to haul it untill the "road/path" from where I use tractor to house drys out.. ( steep and lots of clay). Will it damage the tractor to leave it in four wheel drive all the time. Never on pavement..almost never in high range

 

[Coyote machine]

I will give dealer a call. They have been very helpful. The problem is I can not get the tractor to a road to haul it untill the "road/path" from where I use tractor to house drys out.. ( steep and lots of clay). Will it damage the tractor to leave it in four wheel drive all the time. Never on pavement..almost never in high range

No. It hurts nothing to run it in 4wd. Some people choose to always run in 4wd. Downside is some parts may wear faster because 4wd requires more parts to move than 2wd.

 

[LaVoie Equipment]

I will give dealer a call. They have been very helpful. The problem is I can not get the tractor to a road to haul it untill the "road/path" from where I use tractor to house drys out.. ( steep and lots of clay). Will it damage the tractor to leave it in four wheel drive all the time. Never on pavement..almost never in high range

No, running a tractor in 4wd all the time on loose surfaces will not hurt your tractor. All the moving parts while operating in 2wd operate/spin while in 4wd. 4wd lever only engages front axle shaft so they will have power from the engine. STAY OFF ASPHALT. You will pop your ring gear off your differential.

These tractors are not like the old 4wd trucks that disengage the hub and the transfer case gears. They are like your truck today that have constant spinning transfer cases, driveshafts and locked hubs.

 

[dennis52]

After spraying liberally with WD40 and waiting a day, my lever with a bit of force shifted much better.. It freed up considerably after after engaging and disengaging several times (while the tractor was stationary with engine off).

 

[Kioti Lee]

Thank you Tony and Dennis. Your info has been of great help to me. I appreciate your taking the the time to help me!! It is reassuring to know that there is quality info available to rookies like me.:thumbsup:

 

[Kioti Lee]

Dennis.. Were in four wheel drive when you turned tractor off ? Is that how you had everything lined up.. Thanks

 

[dennis52]

Dennis.. Were in four wheel drive when you turned tractor off ? Is that how you had everything lined up.. Thanks

Yes, in 4WD with shuttle and gears all in neutral , before getting it to shift, initially, with force.

 

[derek01]

I have a DS40 HST I was having problems getting it out of 4 WD I had the dealer check it out he replaced the solenoid which helped but it still clunks coming out of 4WD unless I first place speed selector into neutral then put in 2WD Front wheels must be strait front wheel tire pressures must be the same RPM must be low and then 9 out 10 times no clunk. I am concerned this will turn into a expensive problem once the drive train warranty is over (1 year left). should I bring it back to dealer again?

 

[Coyote machine]

I have a DS40 HST I was having problems getting it out of 4 WD I had the dealer check it out he replaced the solenoid which helped but it still clunks coming out of 4WD unless I first place speed selector into neutral then put in 2WD Front wheels must be strait front wheel tire pressures must be the same RPM must be low and then 9 out 10 times no clunk. I am concerned this will turn into a expensive problem once the drive train warranty is over (1 year left). should I bring it back to dealer again?

My personal experience with my DK-35se/hst and now my DK-40se/hst is I turn the switch for 4wd on when the tractor is stopped, when going into 4wd. If I am moving along and I no longer need to have 4wd engaged I hit the switch and continue along with no further thought to the status. No clunking, tire pressure check, up or down hill, turning or not. I've over 750 hours between the two tractors, and see no reason your experience should be any different. Require legible, clearly stated description of the problem from your selling dealer on all service documentation and take it back until it performs properly. Warranty repair time is when to get it done to specs. If they can't resolve it for you seek further help here and take the issue directly to Kioti HQ in S. Carolina way before your warranty expires.
When did the problem begin? How many hours on your tractor? Did 4wd behave any differently than how it does now at any point in its life to date?