Spill-proof spout=slow flow spout

[JDgreen227]

Yesterday I used one of my new safety spout diesel cans for the first time, and even with the spout rigged to stay open, the fuel flow is really slow compared to the older fuel cans. Although I have posted a thread about the gadget I use for filling my Deere so I don't have to hold the can as it empties, I thought I would repost it showing how well it works with a safety spout can. The only way to get one of these (censored) new cans fully emptied using my support is to block up the can when it has about a gallon left in it. And this sure beats holding onto the can for the ten minutes it takes to empty.

Just be sure your fuel tank will hold the contents without overflow because it's hard to get a partially empty can back upright without spilling...me bad, these new cans were supposed to stop any spillage. :laughing:

 

[fastback88]

Buy one of these nospill cans, empty 5 gallon can in 1 min 15 sec ,best new can ive found it, emptys faster than my old chilton cans.
http://www.nospill.com/

 

[radioman]

Good idea. I thought the JD has tank cap fillers through the hood? I'll have to post how I fill mine.

 

[JDgreen227]

Buy one of these nospill cans, empty 5 gallon can in 1 min 15 sec ,best new can ive found it, emptys faster than my old chilton cans.
http://www.nospill.com/:thumbsup:

The link you provided wouldn't work, perhaps because of the :thumbsup: too close to it. Did a Google search....$32 per 5 gallon can? BLEEP. Radioman, my Deere filler cap can be accessed with the hood up or down but I have never fueled it with the hood down because it would be a HUGE PIB balancing a full 5 gallon can for more than a minute or two.

 

[Professor Marvel]

I just use the spout as a cap and take the whole thing off when I fill my tractor. Works great.

 

[jmurray01]

The word "counterproductive" comes to mind here Bill!

 

[CompactTractorFan]

Buy one of these nospill cans, empty 5 gallon can in 1 min 15 sec ,best new can ive found it, emptys faster than my old chilton cans.
NO-SPILL INC. | Lenexa, KS 66215

Those cans are the best currently sold...IMO

 

[k0ua]

Buy one of these nospill cans, empty 5 gallon can in 1 min 15 sec ,best new can ive found it, emptys faster than my old chilton cans.
NO-SPILL INC. | Lenexa, KS 66215

Good looking gas can.. and "no spill Jill" wasn't bad looking either!

James K0UA

 

[pacerron]

Yesterday I used one of my new safety spout diesel cans for the first time, and even with the spout rigged to stay open, the fuel flow is really slow compared to the older fuel cans. Although I have posted a thread about the gadget I use for filling my Deere so I don't have to hold the can as it empties, I thought I would repost it showing how well it works with a safety spout can. The only way to get one of these (censored) new cans fully emptied using my support is to block up the can when it has about a gallon left in it. And this sure beats holding onto the can for the ten minutes it takes to empty.

Just be sure your fuel tank will hold the contents without overflow because it's hard to get a partially empty can back upright without spilling...me bad, these new cans were supposed to stop any spillage. :laughing:

What is this hatch used for?
Even so a terrible place for a fuel tank.
I don't like those new cans either. I have a couple for gasoline that are the same shape. The older plastic gas cans are wider at the bottom than the top which makes them ride without tipping over in the truck bed regardless of how they are turned.

 

[k0ua]

JD 227 is the hood on the John Deere steel or plastic.? Here is what I do and also did on my Kubota's.

1: make sure the dust is brushed/blown off lightly from the hood
2: Place an old soft towel on the hood, right by the filler cap/cover.
3: Lift up the Blitz equipped safety nozzle 5 gallon diesel can onto the hood on its face with nozzle pointing in the middle of the filler neck..with the Kubota's since the neck protudes up thru the hood, rest the neck protrusion catch on the edge of the tank's neck.
4: Release the safety mechanism and hold the lever sqeezed with one hand.

This is not a big deal and you do not have to hold any can for more than a couple of seconds to lift it up to the hood.. Of course you hood probably needs to be made of good steel, to not dent or crack. I have never had any trouble with 2 Kubota's and 1 Kioti. The old soft towel prevents any scratches on the hood. The new Blitz filler is better than the old flexible neck cans because you would spill diesel all over the hood with this method, but no diesel comes out until you release the safety and press the lever. Life is good.

James K0UA

 

[pacerron]

JD 227 is the hood on the John Deere steel or plastic.? Here is what I do and also did on my Kubota's.

1: make sure the dust is brushed/blown off lightly from the hood
2: Place an old soft towel on the hood, right by the filler cap/cover.
3: Lift up the Blitz equipped safety nozzle 5 gallon diesel can onto the hood on its face with nozzle pointing in the middle of the filler neck..with the Kubota's since the neck protudes up thru the hood, rest the neck protrusion catch on the edge of the tank's neck.
4: Release the safety mechanism and hold the lever sqeezed with one hand.

This is not a big deal and you do not have to hold any can for more than a couple of seconds to lift it up to the hood.. Of course you hood probably needs to be made of good steel, to not dent or crack. I have never had any trouble with 2 Kubota's and 1 Kioti. The old soft towel prevents any scratches on the hood. The new Blitz filler is better than the old flexible neck cans because you would spill diesel all over the hood with this method, but no diesel comes out until you release the safety and press the lever. Life is good.

James K0UA

Looks like your idea would work well on his John Deere if he had or made a large hole shortneck funnel to stick through the fuel hatch into the tank. He could even use his padded tipper plate on top of the hood to hold the can.

 

[JDgreen227]

JD 227 is the hood on the John Deere steel or plastic.? Here is what I do and also did on my Kubota's.

1: make sure the dust is brushed/blown off lightly from the hood
2: Place an old soft towel on the hood, right by the filler cap/cover.
3: Lift up the Blitz equipped safety nozzle 5 gallon diesel can onto the hood on its face with nozzle pointing in the middle of the filler neck..with the Kubota's since the neck protudes up thru the hood, rest the neck protrusion catch on the edge of the tank's neck.
4: Release the safety mechanism and hold the lever sqeezed with one hand.

This is not a big deal and you do not have to hold any can for more than a couple of seconds to lift it up to the hood.. Of course you hood probably needs to be made of good steel, to not dent or crack. I have never had any trouble with 2 Kubota's and 1 Kioti. The old soft towel prevents any scratches on the hood. The new Blitz filler is better than the old flexible neck cans because you would spill diesel all over the hood with this method, but no diesel comes out until you release the safety and press the lever. Life is good.

James K0UA

The hood on the 4000-Ten series Deeres is plastic. And with the FEL attached it is VERY hard and awkward to hoist a full five gallon can into place. I have always fueled mine with the hood raised, partly because of the difficulty in fueling it with the hood lowered, partly because it is easier to monitor the fuel flow and level in the tank with the hood up, and last but not least, I can check the oil, coolant, fan belt tension, fuel filter, etc when the hood is raised and I am waiting for the fuel can to empty.

 

[RoMad]

My fuel tank is directly behind the seat on my kioti. My son brought me home an almost new yellow spill proof plastic can he found on the side of the interstate with about a quart of fuel in it.
After using it the first time I think someone threw it out the window while driving down the interstate :laughing:.
I tie a small rope on the handle of the can, put the rope over my rop and just pull it up and tie it off.
After tieing it off I use a pice of old garden hose and siphon the fuel into my tractor. It is really easy and my tractor is such a fuel sipper I don't have to do it very often.
One other thing I have learned during this process, diesel doesn't taste as bad as gas. :thumbsup:

 

[JDgreen227]

My fuel tank is directly behind the seat on my kioti. My son brought me home an almost new yellow spill proof plastic can he found on the side of the interstate with about a quart of fuel in it.
After using it the first time I think someone threw it out the window while driving down the interstate :laughing:.
I tie a small rope on the handle of the can, put the rope over my rop and just pull it up and tie it off.
After tieing it off I use a pice of old garden hose and siphon the fuel into my tractor. It is really easy and my tractor is such a fuel sipper I don't have to do it very often.
One other thing I have learned during this process, diesel doesn't taste as bad as gas. :thumbsup:

May I suggest you buy a length of CLEAR plastic hose to use as a siphon? Makes it much easier to see the fuel as it begins flowing down.

 

[k0ua]

My fuel tank is directly behind the seat on my kioti. My son brought me home an almost new yellow spill proof plastic can he found on the side of the interstate with about a quart of fuel in it.
After using it the first time I think someone threw it out the window while driving down the interstate :laughing:.
I tie a small rope on the handle of the can, put the rope over my rop and just pull it up and tie it off.
After tieing it off I use a pice of old garden hose and siphon the fuel into my tractor. It is really easy and my tractor is such a fuel sipper I don't have to do it very often.
One other thing I have learned during this process, diesel doesn't taste as bad as gas. :thumbsup:

have you thought about one of these.. No tasting involved.. just shake it a few times to start the siphon flow going.:thumbsup:

[ame=http://www.amazon.com/Super-Siphon-Hose-TWO-16-95/dp/B000ZORJ1E]Amazon.com: Super Siphon w/ 6' Siphon Hose - TWO for 16.95: Sports & Outdoors[/ame]

James K0UA

 

[Notforhire]

Anyone else using a funnel with a fine mesh screen in it? It keeps the falling/blowing around, junk out of your fuel tank. They even make them that lock on to some tractor filler necks.:thumbsup:

 

[Professor Marvel]

The word "counterproductive" comes to mind here Bill!

You are correct. I would have preferred to have purchased a fuel can without this new improved spout or in fact any spout at all. However, in this world designed to save us from ourselves, I could not find a can without these "improvements". I would assume that a measurable percentage of the cost of this fuel container is due to this innovation that I have no desire for.

 

[newbury]

I too carefully remove the entire cap and hose, set it aside and pour from the air. I usually spill a little here and there but I'm not going to spill 10 gallons worth in years. And if the "fuel can" costs as much as 10 gallons to get a slightly better pour it ain't worth it.

Never pour on a hot engine.

 

[droptop]

I'm lucky that I have enough pre-idiot proof cans to last me till I get planted. But a few people that I know have gotten the good old style gas cans in Canada when they go on vacation.

 

[Tractor Seabee]

I got tired of wrestling those 5 GL cans. Bought 2 50 GL tanks (one gas, 1 diesel) and hand pumps, put them on wheels mounted to C channel. BM BX 25 lifts the full 50 GL (need rear ballast) in and out of the pickup for filling at the Kroger pump. Best money I ever spent. My fuel never gets contaminated. Each hose has a 5 micron filter.

Ron