Broken again, loosing faith

[kiotiken]

Well, once again a new problem to deal with. For anybody who cares to read the exhaustive list of issues I've had with my CK30, here it is http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/kioti-owning-operating/218090-my-new-ck-30-a.html

Today, the FEL lever broke, I have curl but no dump. On top of that, I still have a slight hydraulic fluid leak (which I remember after each time I park on my paved driveway), no temp. gauge and the FEL lock is broken.

I'm starting to loose faith in Kioti, and I've been a big proponent of them up to now. I think these tractors are big and heavy and capable and all the rest, there's no doubt. They will do things no Kubota or JD in the same hp range and certainly the same price range will come close to doing (other than mow the lawn!), but in the end, it's just got to work. I'm seriously thinking about abandoning ship, guess I'll need a new handle on TBN.

 

[DK35vince]

Sorry to hear your having more problems.
I've had my DK 35 for going on 11 years now, and so far its been very reliable (1640+ hours).
I did have to put my first battery in this weekend.

 

[MotorSeven]

Man, you sure have had bad luck with it and I don't blame you for being disgruntled. I don't think I have ever seen a list of problems as long as yours.....must be a record(one you didn't want to obtain). I think I'd go have a sit down with your dealer and go over your options. He might have mercy n you and give you a deal on some other color tractor.

 

[Coyote machine]

So now what? Keep working on it with dealer and Kioti HQ or abandon all hope and move on to yet another brand?
Do you expect different results from another brand, and if so what brand might that be?
I'd keep after them until its fixed completely and once off warranty if problems still exist then shoot it.

 

[MasseyWV]

I think I'd go have a sit down with your dealer and go over your options. He might have mercy n you and give you a deal on some other color tractor.

A dealer having mercy for a customer? :laughing:

 

[ON84]

I would contact my dealer and ask to trade for a new tractor. Your dealer, together with Kioti might make this happen for you. Otherwise, I would be looking at a JD. Life is too short, put this ugly chapter behind you.

 

[MotorSeven]

There has to be a lemon law on tractors or something similar? Besides, Ken should be compensated for all the down time...it is excessive.

Massey, I am very fortunate, I know my dealer would work something out with me if I was in Ken's shoes.

 

[kiotiken]

Do you expect different results from another brand,

YES

and if so what brand might that be?
I'd keep after them until its fixed completely and once off warranty if problems still exist then shoot it.

I understand every tractor will have an issue here or there, but not a dozen in the first year with only 150 hrs. I'm more worried about what happens after my warranty is up.

I would contact my dealer and ask to trade for a new tractor. Your dealer, together with Kioti might make this happen for you. Otherwise, I would be looking at a JD. Life is too short, put this ugly chapter behind you.

I do like JD, especially the small cabbed CUTs, but a comparable JD to my CK30 would be HUGE $$$$. As for trading for a new version of the same, I put a Kioti dealer installed cab on and that would complicate issues.

There has to be a lemon law on tractors or something similar? Besides, Ken should be compensated for all the down time...it is excessive.

Massey, I am very fortunate, I know my dealer would work something out with me if I was in Ken's shoes.

I don't think there is here, but I'll look into it. I've got an excellent dealer who will come and take this away at no charge and return it good as new (until it breaks again) at no charge as well. I expect this to be a long repair since they'll be splitting the tractor to fix the leak. That will involve removing the cab.

I'm also at the point that I'm realizing this tractor is too small to meet my needs. I could really use more FEL and it's being stopped in it's tracks with the box blade, even in low, with some of the work I'm asking of it. I run out of hp before I run out of traction, I'm not able to spin the wheels. There's no doubt, I work it hard, I thought that's what it was for.

 

[Looking4new]

Well, once again a new problem to deal with. For anybody who cares to read the exhaustive list of issues I've had with my CK30, here it is http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/kioti-owning-operating/218090-my-new-ck-30-a.html

Today, the FEL lever broke, I have curl but no dump. On top of that, I still have a slight hydraulic fluid leak (which I remember after each time I park on my paved driveway), no temp. gauge and the FEL lock is broken.

I'm starting to loose faith in Kioti, and I've been a big proponent of them up to now. I think these tractors are big and heavy and capable and all the rest, there's no doubt. They will do things no Kubota or JD in the same hp range and certainly the same price range will come close to doing (other than mow the lawn!), but in the end, it's just got to work. I'm seriously thinking about abandoning ship, guess I'll need a new handle on TBN.

How about 'formerkiotiken'.

 

[TripleR]

Sorry to hear of all the problems with your Kioti. A bad tractor of any color will show up from time to time no matter what color; got a green one in the shop AGAIN ourselves.

I suspect you simply got a lemon that slipped through the cracks, but also understand "casting an eye" at other brands. We bought our BX2660 after all the trouble with the JD; had considered a JD for each farm until then.

Hopefully you can get your problems ironed out and wind up with a good tractor either repair yours, another Kioti or other brand.

I apologize for forum hopping, but started doing the "todays posts" thing after seeing you refer to it.

 

[tcartwri]

Today, the FEL lever broke, I have curl but no dump. On top of that, I still have a slight hydraulic fluid leak (which I remember after each time I park on my paved driveway), no temp. gauge and the FEL lock is broken.

Hey Ken, have a look at your quickconnects under the floor board. I have hooked mine on a branch before and partially unplugged one. Did the same thing as yours, except on the boom cyls.

 

[VictorW]

My CK30hst has been great with only one minor warranty issue in 7 years and 400 plus hours. Sorry to hear that yours seems to be a lemon.

 

[Johndeere3720]

From the sounds of it you did get a lemon. But with you also noticing that it lacks the capacities you need i would see this as a good opportunity to upgrade to a larger, less problematic tractor. :2cents:

 

[Mousefield]

I would contact my dealer and ask to trade for a new tractor. Your dealer, together with Kioti might make this happen for you. Otherwise, I would be looking at a JD. Life is too short, put this ugly chapter behind you.

That is not always a good option.
My neighbor, who bought a brand new 55HP John Deere had a real problem with hers, they ended up splitting the tractor to fix it, she only had it for a few months. ALL brands can have a problem(a) and it's not limited to tractors.
As others have suggested, talk to your dealer about a bigger tractor.
I have been very happy with my CK35 and feel for you, it is a bummer when you have so many problems.

 

[Stick895]

Maybe the problems ARE indications that the tractor is too small for your needs.

 

[Coyote machine]

Maybe the problems ARE indications that the tractor is too small for your needs.

I'm with this logic. Though I've mostly heard good things about the CK series they are limited by HP and material strength to their max capacity to get certain heavy duty tasks accomplished.
If you go to say a DK-40 you will not exceed your ability to get most any task accomplished. I had a DK-35, my first tractor, and it was great but I kept pushing it beyond its limit and bending FEL parts. I worked a deal with my original selling dealer and it cost me a bunch of $, BUT I'm SO much happier with the DK-40 I have now. One extra cylinder, huge jump in loader capacity, and beefier rear end.

Kill 'Satan'* and go up in capacity. Your current dealer is going to give you the best deal he can and you'll probably save by not going back to green.
Plus you can keep your username!


* borrowed the name Satan from a TBN poster who had huge problems with a lawnmower in the Scag owners forum....

 

[murphy1244]

Ken I feel your pain, I would not even trust orange paint let alone Kioti. If you keep your machine I would be talking to your rep about a full extented warranty or I would dump it for any color but orange. Well what ever you decide, good luck!

 

[kiotiken]

I apologize for forum hopping, but started doing the "todays posts" thing after seeing you refer to it.

This place would be pretty boring if we all stuck to our own little corners. I'm glad you chimed in and you're using "todays posts", it makes TBN more fun.

 

[kiotiken]

Hey Ken, have a look at your quickconnects under the floor board. I have hooked mine on a branch before and partially unplugged one. Did the same thing as yours, except on the boom cyls.

The first thing I did was jump down and make sure hydraulic fluid wasn't spewing everywhere. After that I checked all the quick connects and they were all fine. I got back on and realized I still had the curl function (so the plumbing is fine) and the lever is flopped over to the right. Something broke in the control module.

 

[MossflowerWoods]

This place would be pretty boring if we all stuck to our own little corners. I'm glad you chimed in and you're using "todays posts", it makes TBN more fun.

I agree COMPLETELY!

I always hang in the "today's posts"... I meet the best people.

Sorry you are having such a terrible time with your tractor Ken...

David