what size trailer for 2000-2500lb.load?

[2001 JD4110]

It would be for jd4110 (1600lb.& 9.5ft long) and a 5' or 8' rake? Maybe even another implement? Tow vehicle for now would be S10 v6 4wd with a bolt on Reese "3" I believe, I used it with a borrowed trailer which towed fine around town....or I have a TrailBlazer (for sale) I could use.

 

[CAgnoli]

What is the S10 rated to tow?

I'd probably look at 16 foot tandem axle trailers. Trailer weight and tractor weight, may be too much for your truck.

Landscape trailers are going to be lighter, but would limit your growth capacity. I buy more trailer than I need, so my trailer weighs 1900 lbs itself, but has gvwr or 9990.

 

[jeffsw6]

How much are you planning on towing it over what distances? Personally, I do not think an S10 (or a Trailblazer) is a suitable vehicle for towing anything much bigger than a couple jetskis or a small fishing boat. Their brakes are not that strong and the narrow beam/track can make towing a "wide" trailer a fishy experience.

I would get something like a 7x16 with electric brakes. Be careful about the gate/ramps on landscape trailers, they are really not meant for the weight of a small tractor. You will probably want to upgrade your hitch also, but if you tow very often you will end up wishing for a half-ton truck anyway.

 

[2001 JD4110]

The sticker on the door says GVWR-5150lb.?

 

[CAgnoli]

To be safe, I'd likely rent a truck whenever your going to haul the tractor long distances. That smaller truck will be a handful with 4000 plus pounds behind it....

 

[timswi]

How much are you planning on towing it over what distances? Personally, I do not think an S10 (or a Trailblazer) is a suitable vehicle for towing anything much bigger than a couple jetskis or a small fishing boat. Their brakes are not that strong and the narrow beam/track can make towing a "wide" trailer a fishy experience.

I would get something like a 7x16 with electric brakes. Be careful about the gate/ramps on landscape trailers, they are really not meant for the weight of a small tractor. You will probably want to upgrade your hitch also, but if you tow very often you will end up wishing for a half-ton truck anyway.

A Trailblazer would do much better than an S-10..My BIL pulled his 21' 4Winns all over the place with one and never had a problem.

I don't think S-10's were ever set up for heavy towing...The 4.3 might surprise some as to what it can do, just S-10's are pretty light.

 

[jeffsw6]

The sticker on the door says GVWR-5150lb.?

That is the maximum allowed weight of the truck, including all loads (passengers, cargo, and trailer tongue weight.) The information you need, though, is the maximum bumper-pull trailer tongue weight, which might be in the owner's manual. The number on the hitch is not necessarily the same, and you have to go with the lower of the ratings.

You also want to find the GCVWR which is the maximum vehicle+cargo+trailer weight. That number is generally limited by the transmission (or its cooling) design or brake system and it will be larger than the GVWR, but what you need is bigger than your truck's curb weight + a passenger or two + the total weight of your trailer and its loads.

I bet if you tell diamondpilot your truck's year and axle ratios he can help you find out your max numbers.

Realistically, those 1/4-ton trucks all have exaggerated mfr towing figures. The people who tow with them are usually just taking their boat to the lake and probably don't mind white-knuckling it a few times a year. Whatever you decide to do, get a trailer with electric brakes, and a long enough one to position your tractor on it effectively (in your photo the S10's rear axle looks overloaded to me.) Or maybe trade that blazer you are selling for a 1/2-ton pickup.

 

[2001 JD4110]

I justed checked U-haul's website and I could rent a dual axle 6x12 job with up to 2500 lb. cargo for $30.00 a day (2 days) not sure if that comes with any kind of a ramp? I guess I could do that for my sisters yard and then take my time looking for the right trailer/price?

 

[CAgnoli]

How far to your sisters house? Renting a trailer and towing your tractor with it will help you make the decision for sure. I believe the uhaul trailers have surge brakes, just take it slow and stay off 490.....

 

[2001 JD4110]

150 miles, most on Thruway.....heck, that s10 bombed around 10 miles in town no problem at 60mph with that 4' or 5' x 10' with no brakes...?

 

[timswi]

150 miles, most on Thruway.....heck, that s10 bombed around 10 miles in town no problem at 60mph with that 4' or 5' x 10' with no brakes...?

A utility trailer on an S-10 is certainly no issue...You might be able to find a 12-14' tandem with brakes that you could get away with using an assumed 4.3, correctly geared S-10..I wouldn't go bigger than that with any kind of load..Trailer brakes are a must in my humble opinion...

 

[2001 JD4110]

Yea I think the U-haul is the way to go for this move, plus I'll get a good idea on how it all handles too before buying anything.

 

[timswi]

Yea I think the U-haul is the way to go for this move, plus I'll get a good idea on how it all handles too before buying anything.

I fully agree with that...

 

[jeffsw6]

At $60 each way in fuel, I guess your sister has a really big property that she doesn't need mowed that often, otherwise it might be cheaper to help her find someone more local to take care of it.

 

[2001 JD4110]

she has a 1/2 acre new construction, I figured I'd help her put her lawn in with a york rake...

 

[ultrarunner]

I believe my 91 4.3l S10 long bed was tow rated 5,000 lbs.

I used it to tow my Samurai and the BX with a 3500 pound GVW trailer that weighed 900 lbs empty.

The truck had plenty of power with the 4.3 and stopping with the trailer's surge brakes was not an issue.

The only place I felt the S10 came up short is it was light in the rear.... I did add some sacks of concrete to the bed and I noticed it handled better when towing.

 

[CAgnoli]

Out of curiosity, where does your sister live? I'm in Jamestown, and work in Rochester quite often.....and I drive an F250.....if she's not to far from me, maybe we can work something out, just so everyone stays safe.

 

[Diamondpilot]

The sticker on the door says GVWR-5150lb.?

This has nothing to do with tow ratings per say. GVWR is "gross vehicle wheel rating" That simply means the max amount of weight that can be on the vehicles wheels. Lets say for example your truck weighs 4,000# with fuel in it and you are 200# plus you carry around 150# of junk in the bed. That would mean you now have 800# of payload capacity. Payload is anything on the trucks wheels like additional stuff in the bed, extra passengers, tongue weight of a trailer, ect.


What you need to find out is the the GCWR "gross combined wheel rating" This is rating is the max weight on the wheels of both the truck and trailer. Lets say its 9,000# for example. Now you simply subtract the weigh of the truck loaded from that and it will tell you the tow rating. This is only in the owners manual, not on a door sticker.

If you give me the year, engine, tranny type, rear axle ration, bed length, cab style I can look it up for you. I am a part time trailer dealer and have access to all this info for most stuff built in the last 15 or so years.

As for a trailer a tandem axle is probably going to weigh too much and kill your payload on the trailer. A single axle trailer with a 3,500# axle and brakes on that one axle is going to weigh about 800# so it will have a honest 2,200# tow rating. This will probably be the best you can do. I think 2,500# plus the weight of the trailer is going to be a bit much for a S-10 because you are going to be pushing the 5,000# mark by the time you add in the empty weight of the trailer.

You really need a 1/2 ton truck for this.

Chris

 

[Diamondpilot]

Measure out that Uhaul trailer before trying it. They are set up to tow cars and do not have solid deck, hollow in the center. I am guessing your tractor is not wide enough to fit in the Gutters designed for the tires. I know a guy who tried this with a John Deere tractor bigger than yours and it was still too narrow to work.

Chris

 

[2001 JD4110]

Measure out that Uhaul trailer before trying it. They are set up to tow cars and do not have solid deck, hollow in the center. I am guessing your tractor is not wide enough to fit in the Gutters designed for the tires. I know a guy who tried this with a John Deere tractor bigger than yours and it was still too narrow to work.

Chris

I stopped by today to do it by the book but unfortunately the kid working there wasn't that type of person? "s10, sure no problem" haha, he didn't check anything even engine, maybe they do that at right up.
The trailer is 6x12 with a full size bed which appears to be made of a lighter steel than a reg.truck bed? Has the super dooper brake setup at the tonque. 2 days if P/U Fri. just before close & "on the lot" when they open Mon.morn so that don't seem bad.