IE 9 BOMB

[Soundguy]

got the lil popup that widows wanted to put ie9 thru updates on my netbook.

decided to let it do it.

what a &^%$#@! mistake that was....

after reboot, when I laoded IE.. it kept erroring out and restarting ad nauseum..

finally I did a recover/rollback to the restore point just BEFORE %^&*($# IE 9 was installed..

all better now.


I remember way back when IE 7 came out.. it was what helped kill my old desktop.. same BS....


soundguy

 

[2manyrocks]

Mozilla Firefox.....

Didn't you post about your experience with IE7 before?

I dread every MS update because I never know what's going to happen.

 

[Soundguy]

yep.. back when ie 7 ( and sp2 )hosed my desktop I thought I had gotten past it when I went to my mobile platform that had IE 8 and sp3 already installed... now the 9.. yuck...

unfortunately, nothing has changed since my last experience. 2 of the govt websites i must interact with specify ONLY ie or one other.. netscape? maybee.. no google chrome or mozilla firefox...

 

[Scooby074]

MS updates wont kill a machine that isnt compromised with either authorized or unauthorized (and likely unknown) third party software.

You may now continue your $$(*S*# Microsoft rant.

 

[Soundguy]

I beg to differ!

ie 7 killed my previous machine because it's check on installed plugins incorrectly identified a plug in. it identified the version as one acceptable for ie7.. when in fact it was an ie6 plugin.. once the upgrade happened.. it dropped all the bits on the floor.

on this lil mobile device, it has the factory installed av software and all the MS junk turned on.. defender..e tc.

this machine doesn't go to 'weird' sites.. unless you call about 5 tractor websites, and a couple usgovt websites, and my email provider weird.

and ie 9 did most certaintly have an issue. so bad I could not even getonline to find a fix in the knowledgebase, nor even try further updates. rolling it back was the only fix.

you may now continue YOUR head in the sand humming.... vauge overreaching limitless statements as yours do not cover 100% of real life situations.

soundguy

 

[Reg]

got the lil popup that widows wanted to put ie9 thru updates on my netbook.

decided to let it do it.

what a &^%$#@! mistake that was....

after reboot, when I laoded IE.. it kept erroring out and restarting ad nauseum..

finally I did a recover/rollback to the restore point just BEFORE %^&*($# IE 9 was installed..

all better now.


I remember way back when IE 7 came out.. it was what helped kill my old desktop.. same BS....


soundguy

There is at least SOME belief that internet exploder was most of the rationale for restore points.

EVENTUALLY even M/S caved to the pressure to build an escape route for those suffering from their self corrupting code.

 

[Soundguy]

i find it comforting.. or actually scarry.. that windows AUTOMATICALLY makes a restore point before a ver of IE is installed.. but not before other big upgrades.. makes ya wonder...

for now.. I will remember to make a restore point before ANY thing else 'updates' puts on...

 

[Scooby074]

Your previous issue was caused by a plug in as you said.. Ie: 3rd party. That's not a MS issue.

Neither are any AV interaction issues. Or what your device is pre-loaded with. Carry on with your misdirected rant.

 

[Soundguy]

you don't read well.. you just skim.. pick out unrelated bits and preach.

in the faq, IE upgrade said it would scan for unsupportd add ons and plug in's and disable them, then install.

after the crash happened and Istarted investigating after getting it into safe mode I finally figured out what it was. IE was not correctly identifying a plug in as compatible and leaving it enabled, when the plugin was not IE7 compatible.

at the point of the instalation I was at, there was no going forward and had to go back.. remove the plug in, before going foward again. would have been simpler and safer if IE would just have disabled ALL plug ins before doing the upgrade if there was a 'catch in the middle, blue screen upon bootup' problem it could encounter.


as for the AV and whatnot... I mentioned that only to show that I take care to block malicous code.. along with good firewall settings and frequent scans and av sig /worm code upgrades.

if you go online and search thru old knowledge base and faqs and problem reports back from ie-7 you will find that problems related to that issue happened WAY too often.... IE's code for preventing those issues was not robust... since it did have the capability to disable plug ins.. it should have just nixed em all as a precaution...

I generally like ms / ie.. and choose it over other platforms and OS.. but I am not BLIND to it's problems. and I'll call it a spade when it dumps on the floor due to lame programming..

blindly defending it is just as lame...

kinda like saying the cruddy economy is GOOD because we NEEDED the correction...

soundguy

 

[rekees4300]

got the lil popup that widows wanted to put ie9 thru updates on my netbook.

Do yourself a favor and switch to Mozilla Firefox. I did many years ago and haven't had any regrets. Keep IE and let MS update it. Just don't use it.

 

[Soundguy]

Do yourself a favor and switch to Mozilla Firefox. I did many years ago and haven't had any regrets. Keep IE and let MS update it. Just don't use it.

again.. not possible.

I would NEED to use it.. and just letting ms updated it has caused problems. for instance.. this last update actually prevented IE from loading correctly.. kept erroring out and relaoding untill you gunned the process.

the previous problem I had with ie7 occured at that critical time during reboot while it was still configuring the software, and was actually blue screening on bootup unless you came up in safe mode.

so just letting it 'ride' is not an option.

ie 8 solved whatever problem ie 7 was having. I'm gonna wait out ie 10 as 9 looks to be the same sort of dungheap that 7 was....

i only tried to go to 7 after a few sites I had been browsing no longer supported 6.. thus forcing me to upgrade.. luckilly i had waited it out long enough that I could go to 8 after the ie7 self aborted..

ie 8 has been FINE.. I like it... plan on keeping it as long as possible now that I see what 9 has to offer. ( actually the 'offer' of more viewable area for a page is what tempted me to try to upgrade ( upgrade? is it an upgrade if it screws everything up?? ) to 9 in the first place... should have known that was a sirens call.. to lure unsuspecting pc owners into falling overboard and being devoured by the blue screen monsters that live in buggy brittle code

did I mention I LIKE ie 8! like it evenmore now!

am actually a really big fan of system restore too!

whatever software engineer wrote ie 8 needs a raise. whataver engineer wrote system restore wrote system restore, needs 2 raises. whoever wrote ie 7 and 9 need the gallows!!

soundguy

 

[MasseyWV]

in the fag, IE upgrade said it would scan for unsupportd add ons and plug in's and disable them, then install.

Oops?

 

[JimRB]

I've been running IE9 for months without issue on a moderate CPU, gigs of ram and Win7. I cannot say that I have seen issues with IE9 like crashes on all the workstations I support. Your mileage may vary.

 

[Soundguy]

Oops?

oops?

yeah.. I'd call the IE7 code an oops all right.. it didn't do what it claimed it would / could do.. resulting in a bluescreen, and plenty of work reverting back to before the ''upgrade''

soundguy

 

[Soundguy]

I've been running IE9 for months without issue on a moderate CPU, gigs of ram and Win7. I cannot say that I have seen issues with IE9 like crashes on all the workstations I support. Your mileage may vary.

i'm not on a moderate cpu, nor have gigs of ram.. nor am i using win7.. i'm on a mobile platform on a n270 proc and xp...

soundguy

 

[MasseyWV]

oops?

yeah.. I'd call the IE7 code an oops all right.. it didn't do what it claimed it would / could do.. resulting in a bluescreen, and plenty of work reverting back to before the ''upgrade''

soundguy

You missed the message I was trying to convey. You misspelled something in a funny way. Read the quote again and you'll see it.

 

[Soundguy]

You missed the message I was trying to convey. You misspelled something in a funny way. Read the quote again and you'll see it.

I saw the purient humor attempt and ignored it.

i find nothing funny about pointing out a typo... i type on a mobile platform with a chicklet keypad that has the keys so close together I can hit 5-6 of them at a time.

one member here has found it 'funny' enough to start an entire thread about it publicly berating and deriding me about the typo and misspellings I have due to the mobile devices I post from, vs a sit down desktop computer where i might actually have a full 104 key keyboard, a screen larger than a cell phone, and spell check....

funny typo huh?

soundguy

 

[MasseyWV]

I saw the purient humor attempt and ignored it.

i find nothing funny about pointing out a typo... i type on a mobile platform with a chicklet keypad that has the keys so close together I can hit 5-6 of them at a time.

one member here has found it 'funny' enough to start an entire thread about it publicly berating and deriding me about the typo and misspellings I have due to the mobile devices I post from, vs a sit down desktop computer where i might actually have a full 104 key keyboard, a screen larger than a cell phone, and spell check....

funny typo huh?

soundguy

Where the heck did that come from? So much for having a sense of humor.

 

[Dan Hunter]

MS has produced too many products that relied on the consumer to troubleshoot to warrant respect.

 

[Scooby074]

He has no sense of humour.

And little does he know, i spent 3 years of my life supporting this product.. 5 and sometimes 6 days a week, 8 hours a day.

Its easy to blame MS.. Its never MY computer.. Its always MS. My computer has nothing on it, i only go to TBN.. just like the little old ladies car that only went to church on sundays. Ive heard it all before. And it brings me great joy to point out to the user that "its not me.. its you".

99.95% of the time.. Its you. Your software.. your add ins. whatever.. its you.

Uninstall or disable all that, and unless the install is truly corrupt, everything from SP's to IE updates (which have a lot of security updates rolled in, hence the conflicts) install just fine.

I dont need to read FAQ's... anybody with half the skill you let on you have, would understand that disabling all AV,running applications and add ins before a major update, which ANY IE update is, would be a smart thing to do.. matter of fact, it usually IS spelled out in the installation instructions and/or during the install. Relying on the installer to search out all the possible interactions with 3RD PARTY add ins is not advised.. Do you know how many obscure add ins are out there that could be missed?