Starting issues with john deere 2040

[Kyle_in_Tex]

You are jumping the solenoid it sounds like with the sparks and screwdriver. Your motor may be locked up. You might just need a solenoid? The fuel pump might need voltage. How far are you from a JD dealership? Maybe take it in to get an estimate since it seems you are a beginner at these things.

 

[Tx Jim]

IIRC TM4300 covers '76-'79 2040's and TM1221 covers '80-'82 2040's. Open-center hyd's ceased at SN 266,749 which was early '79 models

 

[dntfxr]

TxJim that's good to know, I was thinking the '76 was the only one with open center hydraulics. I didn't realize there were several years with it.

 

[kshunter]

I did not know that either. Ya, i live kinda by a place called Van Wal, its a really good place we take the little tractors there for repairs i cant do myself. Our problem is that we dont have a trailer big enough. Could i pull a trailer that could hold that weight with just a ball hitch?

 

[beenthere]

kshunter
You have several tough decisions to make.

Might be easiest to get the tech manual out and go over it carefully with someone who can read the wiring schematics, and translate those to your wiring harness. It might save you the expense of tranporting the tractor to the dealer in Olathe.

 

[kshunter]

Ya, i have the manual right now, and i left the guy who helped me out ( a family friend) last time a voicemail.

 

[Tx Jim]

Could i pull a trailer that could hold that weight with just a ball hitch?

Yes as long as the towing vehicle is large enough the handle the weight of trailer & 2040

 

[kshunter]

Ya, I tried pop startong it today, had our F150 pull it, all it did was turn over for a few seconds, because we did it on gravel and the wheels just wouldnt grab grip. Im just gona have a van wal guy eork on it.

 

[jenkinsph]

If you are trying to pull the tractor to start it make sure you are in the highest gear (road gear) on the tractor when doing so. Much easier on the truck for sure.

I would check to be sure I had the 12 volts to the injector pump before tryig to pull start it, without it there isn't a chance it will start.

 

[kshunter]

Yes ill need to do that for sure. I also didn't have anything hooked up, by that i mean the electronics didn't work in the first place, such as spedo, tacho, etc. But i dont think that would of made a difference. I was trying it out in like 4th gear, probably way too low. I also put an add on craigslist for someone who might be able to come out and help me out. I also called the Van Wal dealer to see if they could come out, but the manager wasn't there so ill just have to call back monday.

 

[jenkinsph]

Yes ill need to do that for sure. I also didn't have anything hooked up, by that i mean the electronics didn't work in the first place, such as spedo, tacho, etc. But i dont think that would of made a difference. I was trying it out in like 4th gear, probably way too low. I also put an add on craigslist for someone who might be able to come out and help me out. I also called the Van Wal dealer to see if they could come out, but the manager wasn't there so ill just have to call back monday.

Just from looking at the transmission speed charts 4th gear would require almost 4 times the pulling effort compared to 8th gear. Recognize that pulling in 4th gear at 4 mph would equate max rpm on the tractor engine. Pulling in 8th gear at the same 4 mph means the engine is turning over about 600 to 800 rpm, that is much easier to do.

If you wan't to see if the tractor will start and get a chance to circulate the oil you can run a hot wire to the injector pump and pull the tractor, just be careful.

 

[jd110]

The 2040 never had an electric shut-off on the injection pump. They had a shut-off cable. Unless it has had an engine replacement or a different injection pump installed. If it is a later 2040(above 350,000), the shut-off knob should be on top of dash on right side. Make sure the knob is pushed in. On earlier 2040's the knob is on lower left side of dash, near your left knee. If you pull start these tractors, you don't even need a battery or alternator.

 

[jenkinsph]

The 2040 never had an electric shut-off on the injection pump. They had a shut-off cable. Unless it has had an engine replacement or a different injection pump installed. If it is a later 2040(above 350,000), the shut-off knob should be on top of dash on right side. Make sure the knob is pushed in. On earlier 2040's the knob is on lower left side of dash, near your left knee. If you pull start these tractors, you don't even need a battery or alternator.

Good to know about the manual fuel shut off, my older 820 has an electric fuel shutoff so I assumed the newer 2040 had that also.

Do you agree to using 8th gear to pull start?

 

[kshunter]

Yep its got the manual fuel shut off on the dash.

 

[kshunter]

Ill have to take another whack at it tomorrow or monday in 8th gear

 

[Tx Jim]

No electrical connections or battery required for this model 2040 to be pull started. It has this to stop engine(RE10597 PUSH PULL CABLE)

 

[kshunter]

Van wals picking it up tomorrow morning!

 

[beenthere]

Please let us know what they find out. Maybe we can all get some learnin out of it.

Sorry, but at your expense.

 

[kshunter]

Ha. Gotta do what ya gotta do

 

[kshunter]

Good news and bad news. Bad:theres water in the hydraulic fluid, which we knew about because of the bad pump which will most likely get rebuilt. Good: they got it running by reattatching and replacing most wires and replaced the relay.