A Quick Question

[garbageman]

I hope this was not already asked.

I have a Kubota B7500 HSD with a Woods 6500 backhoe, which when attached works off the tractor's hydraulics from the "Power Beyond" from the front loader valve. When not in use, the hoses are connected with quick connects at the rear of the tractor to complete the "loop". It's messy.

My question is, I would like to put a divertor type valve attached to the ROPES which will return the fluids back to to the pump to complete the "loop", when the backhoe is not attached. When the backhoe is attached, hoses will be connected with quick connects to the backhoe.

Does this make sense? Any suggestions?

Thanks,
Ray

 

[Soundguy]

the looped hoses are already doing that... are you simply wanting to divert more near the base of the hose than the ends? if so.. what about making a shortr stub hose to make a loop closer tot he valve, and adding in 2 more QD's

how do you like your 6500? I have one as well.. made a tlb out of an old 1955 ford 850 that has a 1-arm loader on it..

soundguy

 

[kennyd]

There is no good/effective alternative to just plugging the hoses together. It's a tried and true method used by all OEM'c

 

[garbageman]

I want to neater set-up. Is there a valve like this?

I was also thinking of welding the ends of the quick connects to a steel plate which would attach to the ROPS. A 12" hose at the end would complete the loop. I would like to find a valve like I described before , but I'm no expert on hydraulics.

Soundguy- the 6500 backhoe works well with the tractor, even in rocky Orange County N.Y. I tend to load the front loader with rock, the tractor is more stable.

Ray

 

[kennyd]

I want to neater set-up. Is there a valve like this?

No.:thumbsup:

 

[Egon]

Put quick connects at the start of the hoses and just take them off when not in use.

 

[Soundguy]

yeah that's what i was mentioning.. make the long hoses the 'extenders for the backhoe, and leave them on the hoe.. plugged together to keep clean.. and onthe tractor just ahve shorter stub hoses at the valve.

to the op.. no need to weld fittings to a plate.. there is a premade pressure / return clamp that holds 2 hoses with qd's, and has a tab on it with a bolt hole for mounting... but as said.. you are really trying to fix a problem that don't exist. forget the valve.. the shorter stub hose and 2 more qd's solves the issue and you just plug those together at the valve to complete the circuit, and the other hoses you leave on t he backhoe, plugged together when not in use to keep em clean..

soundguy

 

[Egon]

Why bother with the short stub hose?

 

[OLD FARMER]

I have used valves on grain trucks that send oil from the lift cylinder to a motor to run an auger.

 

[kennyd]

Why bother with the short stub hose?

You have to connect the two lines together to keep the flow going.

 

[kennyd]

to the op.. no need to weld fittings to a plate.. there is a premade pressure / return clamp that holds 2 hoses with qd's, and has a tab on it with a bolt hole for mounting... but as said.. you are really trying to fix a problem that don't exist. forget the valve.. the shorter stub hose and 2 more qd's solves the issue and you just plug those together at the valve to complete the circuit, and the other hoses you leave on t he backhoe, plugged together when not in use to keep em clean..

soundguy

Yes, or use these "Bulkhead Fittings"

 

[Egon]

You have to connect the two lines together to keep the flow goin/QUOTE]

Isn't the backhoe run from the power beyond ports on the loader controller. Aren't these ports normally plugged if only the loader is in use and there are no hydraulic attachments?

 

[Soundguy]

Egon.. all we know is as per the original poster. he says he has to connect 2 hoses to complete a loop for his hyds to work.. so that's what we are basing the responses on.

kenny.. yep.. then bulkhead fittings are nice.. especially for mouting in plate or angle.

soundguy

 

[J_J]

garbageman,

You can do what you want to do with a single lever , 3 position detent valve, and not have to mess with connecting the two hoses together. The QD's from the BH would just plug in, no mess.

The hose from the PB port of the FEL would connect to the IN port of the new valve, and the PB port from the new valve would connect to the 3pt. Another hose from the OUT port will have to go to tank. If you use the flat face connectors, you can plug under low residual pressure. If the valve is in the center detent, there is no pressure of flow to the work ports. This set up will add this valve in series with the hyd flow. When the BH is connected, it will also be in series with the flow.

This valve can be a 3 position detent valve, so you can work the BH. The new valve would have a male and female QD on the valve work ports, so you can plug in the BH.

So, yes, go ahead and do what you were originaly thinking.

 

[kennyd]

You have to connect the two lines together to keep the flow goin/QUOTE]

Isn't the backhoe run from the power beyond ports on the loader controller. Aren't these ports normally plugged if only the loader is in use and there are no hydraulic attachments?

No. You are confusing the OP. If the valve is equipped with a PB sleeve, the fluid must have a path back to the tank.

 

[garbageman]

J.J.

Where, what company sells a 3 position detent valve? My hydraulic knowledge is limitted. You understand what I'm trying to do

Thanks for all of the responses

Ray

 

[Egon]

No. You are confusing the OP. If the valve is equipped with a PB sleeve, the fluid must have a path back to the tank./QUOTE]

The backhoe fluid/pressure supply comes from a port that is normally blocked. Why do you need a return line if there is no flow thru this port as happens when you disconnect the backhoe.:thumbsup:

 

[J_J]

J.J.

Where, what company sells a 3 position detent valve? My hydraulic knowledge is limitted. You understand what I'm trying to do

Thanks for all of the responses

Ray

Here is one source.

Surplus Center - 1 SPOOL 20 GPM PRINCE RD-2555-T4-ESA1 DA OC VALVE

Surplus Center - RD-2500 DETENT KIT

Surplus Center - 2 SPOOL 25 GPM PRINCE RD522CCAA5A4B1 OC VALVE

Surplus Center - 660150002 3-POS DETENT KIT RD5000 VALVE

 

[J_J]

No. You are confusing the OP. If the valve is equipped with a PB sleeve, the fluid must have a path back to the tank./QUOTE]

The backhoe fluid/pressure supply comes from a port that is normally blocked. Why do you need a return line if there is no flow thru this port as happens when you disconnect the backhoe.:thumbsup:

Egon,

The flow is from the PB port of the FEL valve, and would go to the back of tractor as the supply for the BH, or the new valve, and then the new valve PB port would go to the 3pt. All hoses and valves must be in series.

The OUT ports would go to tank

 

[kennyd]

J.J.

Where, what company sells a 3 position detent valve? My hydraulic knowledge is limitted. You understand what I'm trying to do

Thanks for all of the responses

Ray

Any valve you add there will add restriction to the system, and build up heat.