Front-End Loader Installing a toothbar

[JasG]

I bought a tooth bar for my Kubota with the 72" bucket. I went to install the bar and it does not fit. The inside of the bucket is 71 1/2" and the tooth bar bolt brackets are 71 3/4.

The dealer said they have to cut a lot of the down and reweld them. Is this "normal" to have to do. I would have though from other threads I have read here that they just bolt on.

The toothbar is a Tisco made bar.

 

[PILOON]

71 3/4 is correct size for a 72" bucket HOWEVER that 72 needs to be the inside measurment and if you ordered based on the bucket spec sheet, the would give you the outside dimension.
You needed to measure the inside when ordering!

However no big deal- cut and reweld. (the 'ears' dont work hard, in fact not at all, the serve only to keep the tooth bar in place.

 

[7800DUDE]

When I bought mine WR long brand they made me measure the inside of bucket twice while I was on phone with them

 

[RoyJackson]

The manufacturer of the tooth bar I bought (10 years ago) wanted the inside measurement of the bucket (as part of the ordering process). When I received it, it fit perfectly.
I suggest returning it to the manufacturer and let them fix it.

BTW, when I modified that same tooth bar (lengthened it to fit another bucket), I purposely made it a 1/4" shorter for an easy fit. I use a flat washer on either end as a spacer.
So, you might want that tooth bar a bit shorter then the inside measurement of your bucket.

 

[nickel plate]

I bought a tooth bar for my Kubota with the 72" bucket. I went to install the bar and it does not fit. The inside of the bucket is 71 1/2" and the tooth bar bolt brackets are 71 3/4.

The dealer said they have to cut a lot of the down and reweld them. Is this "normal" to have to do. I would have though from other threads I have read here that they just bolt on.

The toothbar is a Tisco made bar.

Who supplied your bucket measurement? Did you just ask your Kubota dealer to get one for you? If so, it's on them, if not, it looks like it might be on you. I don't think grinding it down 1/8" on each side is an answer as it will still bind up. I would try to swap it out with Tisco if the back and fourth shipping expense isn't too killer.
As for your dealer saying that it is "normal" to reweld a toothbar to fit? Bull----. Sounds like they got a package deal on a bunch of misfits or they blew the measurement of your bucket. JUST SAY NO! Although 1/4" off of center probably won't make any difference to the opperation of the toothbar but what if you at a later date decide to add a FEL grapple to your existing bucket? Tolerances then start to multiply in the wrong direction.

 

[MikeD74T]

Have a local welder remove 3/8" from the middle & get digging, that's why you bought a toothbar, right? MikeD74T

 

[JasG]

Have a local welder remove 3/8" from the middle & get digging, that's why you bought a toothbar, right? MikeD74T

I bought the tooth bar to dig yes, but I didn't plan on cutting and welding the thing right off the bat. To me it will never be as strong as it is right now.

 

[JasG]

Who supplied your bucket measurement? Did you just ask your Kubota dealer to get one for you? If so, it's on them, if not, it looks like it might be on you. I don't think grinding it down 1/8" on each side is an answer as it will still bind up. I would try to swap it out with Tisco if the back and fourth shipping expense isn't too killer.
As for your dealer saying that it is "normal" to reweld a toothbar to fit? Bull----. Sounds like they got a package deal on a bunch of misfits or they blew the measurement of your bucket. JUST SAY NO! Although 1/4" off of center probably won't make any difference to the opperation of the toothbar but what if you at a later date decide to add a FEL grapple to your existing bucket? Tolerances then start to multiply in the wrong direction.

I bought the tooth bar the same day as the tractor, it was the dealer that ordered it while the tractor sat on his lot. I wonder myself if he originally priced me a Kubota tooth bar and then found a cheaper one. He never looked in any book but the kubota book he had on his desk.

 

[MikeD74T]

I bought the tooth bar to dig yes, but I didn't plan on cutting and welding the thing right off the bat. To me it will never be as strong as it is right now.[/quote]

You'd be wrong about that. Properly welded and ground the weld would be invisable & you'd never know the difference. If you were closer I'd do it for free just to show it can be done. As an alternative you could take 3/8" off one end, which is just a tab welded on now, correct? MikeD74t

 

[YanmarFever]

We have been a Tisco dealer since 99, and they do have the correct one for your bucket, We buy them all the time.
Have him order the next size down tooth bar.

 

[dex3361]

I would cut it off of either end and not cut the bar itself. When you reweld it preheat the steel.

 

[PILOON]

As I said earlier on, the retainer bolts really don't work at all. Their purpose in life is only to keep the bar from sliding off.
Sure if you attach a chain and pull a heavy object with the tooth bar then you would be stressing the bolts.
Those retainer bolts could be 1/4" grade 3 and they'd still do the job.
My bar uses 3/8" retainer bolts and last year I decided they were probably mangled after 4 yrs of heavy usage so I removed expecting the worst. To my surprise they were as nice as the day I installed them and absolutely no elongation of the drill holes.
Save yourself shipping costs, cut and weld and move on.
Unless the dealer did the measuring and ordering, that is, in which case get him to make good.
Added is the fact my bar is home made and my first attempt at that.

 

[RoyJackson]

You'd be wrong about that. Properly welded and ground the weld would be invisable & you'd never know the difference. If you were closer I'd do it for free just to show it can be done. As an alternative you could take 3/8" off one end, which is just a tab welded on now, correct? MikeD74t

Well, the weld probably won't be "invisible", but it will be as strong as the base material.

When I lengthened my tooth bar, I sectioned it at the center and welded in a 6" section...and another tooth. I've had this tooth bar for ten years now with no problems.

 

[nickel plate]

I bought the tooth bar the same day as the tractor, it was the dealer that ordered it while the tractor sat on his lot. I wonder myself if he originally priced me a Kubota tooth bar and then found a cheaper one. He never looked in any book but the kubota book he had on his desk.

There you go, it's on the dealer. Accept no alterations and demand a proper fitting toothbar. The dealer didn't get it right the first time. You don't really think they/he will dismiss your demand after you just bought a tractor from them?

 

[RoyJackson]

I bought the tooth bar the same day as the tractor, it was the dealer that ordered it while the tractor sat on his lot. I wonder myself if he originally priced me a Kubota tooth bar and then found a cheaper one. He never looked in any book but the kubota book he had on his desk.

Well, then it's the dealer's responsibility to make it right.
As long as he doesn't try to charge you for it, I suggest you let him repair it or return it.
Maybe he'll learn to measure those buckets before ordering any more tooth bars!

 

[Glen Watkins]

Well, then it's the dealer's responsibility to make it right.
As long as he doesn't try to charge you for it, I suggest you let him repair it or return it.
Maybe he'll learn to measure those buckets before orderingany more tooth bars!

X2 Teach the dealer how to order parts. Unbelievable!

 

[PILOON]

To err is human!
Let him cut and weld, you'll just make a friend and it will later pay back.
AS earlier posted, a weld at the ear will not affect the strength at all and so what it the bar is 1/2" off center, it won't affect digging power.

 

[carrol02]

FYI W.R. Long only sells through a dealer. Their 48" Toothbar (Flat Bottom and Standard) are both MSRP of $273.00


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[Elcid76]

I bought mine from the dealer who measured another bucket of the same model, danged if it wasn't to darned long. The bar must weigh 100 lbs, so rather than toting it back I just ground a little on both tabs and wedged it on the bucket. It is a TIGHT fit, but I have never taken it off. I use it to dig, and I like to know that my toothbar can take whatever the bucket can. I see no reason to ever take it off, if I want to smooth things I use the heel of the bucket.

 

[dlmpsy]

FYI, Tisco makes a TTB710 that fits buckets from 71" to 71 3/8" and an even smaller TTB705 that fits buckets 70 1/2" to 70 7/8" as well. You may have the TTB715 for buckets from 71 1/2" to 71 7/8". Tisco has a website with a public page that should help you narrow down what you need if you decide to exchange it.