F450 with PTO???

[JB4310]

All late model Ford F-250's with the Torque Shift Tranny, 2003 1/2 and later, have this option. I have seen a F-250 with a compressor and one with a generator. Nice option to have. I believe Ford is the only one still putting them on. I know GM took it off the Allison a few years back and not too sure about the Cummins powered Dodges.

Chris

No reason someone wouldn't want it on a pick up, but more suited for the chassis upfit market.

Dodge had them on class 3, 4 and 5 chassis trucks since 07 with the Aisin auto 6 speed, not sure about standard tranny or pick ups though.

JB.

 

[Travelover]

For refrigerated trucks, sometimes a refrigerant compressor is run off the PTO.

 

[Ryan03]

Are you seriously complaining about having problems with a 17 yr old truck...? :laughing:

I'm with Dmace on this one.

P.S.
My "71" Chevelle started leaking 90W all over my garage floor this winter. Turns out that the tailshaft seal dried out on the Crappy Muncie 4 speed. Not only did GM use low quality seals, but did not provide any provisions to mount a PTO to the M22 Rock Crusher.
Pictures of the oil stain and lack of a PTO plate can be posted upon request.

 

[PoorMansCat]

I'm with Dmace on this one.

P.S.
My "71" Chevelle started leaking 90W all over my garage floor this winter. Turns out that the tailshaft seal dried out on the Crappy Muncie 4 speed. Not only did GM use low quality seals, but did not provide any provisions to mount a PTO to the M22 Rock Crusher.
Pictures of the oil stain and lack of a PTO plate can be posted upon request.

:laughing::laughing::laughing:
Well.... rather than pictures... why not just pull that crappy Muncie out and send it to me. I will, in turn, send you a very nice, Saginaw 4 speed that only needs the teeth put back on several gears and , maybe a mainshaft..

 

[Ryan03]

:laughing::laughing::laughing:
Well.... rather than pictures... why not just pull that crappy Muncie out and send it to me. I will, in turn, send you a very nice, Saginaw 4 speed that only needs the teeth put back on several gears and , maybe a mainshaft..

Maybe if you still have most of the sawed off teeth so I can weld them back on....... Na, my conscience won't let me take advantage of another TBN member like that. :

 

[kday64]

Is there realy such high demand on a off the shelf truck to run a PTO? Seems like these are highly specialized machines that would be cheaper to make one at a time vice changing an entire production line.

~Kevin

 

[Diamondpilot]

Is there realy such high demand on a off the shelf truck to run a PTO? Seems like these are highly specialized machines that would be cheaper to make one at a time vice changing an entire production line.

~Kevin

I like that Ford is keeping them in, Dodge also. My 05 Dmax was that last year they had it in the Allison I think. Heard they saved about $4 by taking it out but cost well over $1000 to have it added later.

I have never had the need for one but who knows? Just a nice feature. The other thing I liked with the Fords I had was because of the PTO they had a high idle program in them. It was not hooked up but there is info on the next to do so. Its just 1 wire under the dash you hook to a switch with 12V. I did it on my F-350 since it has the up-fitter switches. All I had to do was crimp on a wire and hooked it to one of the four switches.

The Ford up-fitter switches from the factory have 2 that are 10 amp and 2 that are 30 amp. A real nice clean way to put stuff in. I have one for the high idle and one for a power plug in the bed.

Chris

 

[CompactTractorFan]

I like that Ford is keeping them in, Dodge also. My 05 Dmax was that last year they had it in the Allison I think. Heard they saved about $4 by taking it out but cost well over $1000 to have it added later.

I have never had the need for one but who knows? Just a nice feature. The other thing I liked with the Fords I had was because of the PTO they had a high idle program in them. It was not hooked up but there is info on the next to do so. Its just 1 wire under the dash you hook to a switch with 12V. I did it on my F-350 since it has the up-fitter switches. All I had to do was crimp on a wire and hooked it to one of the four switches.

The Ford up-fitter switches from the factory have 2 that are 10 amp and 2 that are 30 amp. A real nice clean way to put stuff in. I have one for the high idle and one for a power plug in the bed.

Chris

What good is high idle if your not using the PTO?

 

[Dmace]

The other thing I liked with the Fords I had was because of the PTO they had a high idle program in them. It was not hooked up but there is info on the next to do so. Its just 1 wire under the dash you hook to a switch with 12V. I did it on my F-350 since it has the up-fitter switches. All I had to do was crimp on a wire and hooked it to one of the four switches.

You had to "hot wire" your Ford for a fast idle setting?

FYI, the Dodge RAM diesel trucks (2004-present) ALL have a factory high idle setting (not just PTO trucks).
With the truck idling in park and e-brake set, press the Cruise ON switch followed by the SET switch. Idle increases to 1100. Use the ACCEL and COAST to raise or lower idle speed. I guess that is just another one of those Dodge/Cummins advances that the others added after Dodge did like an exhaust brake...

What good is high idle if your not using the PTO?

Warming the engine in the cold winter mornings, powering high draw electrical equipment from your alternator, etc...

 

[JB4310]

I have never had the need for one but who knows? Just a nice feature. The other thing I liked with the Fords I had was because of the PTO they had a high idle program in them. It was not hooked up but there is info on the next to do so. Its just 1 wire under the dash you hook to a switch with 12V. I did it on my F-350 since it has the up-fitter switches. All I had to do was crimp on a wire and hooked it to one of the four switches.

The Ford up-fitter switches from the factory have 2 that are 10 amp and 2 that are 30 amp. A real nice clean way to put stuff in. I have one for the high idle and one for a power plug in the bed.

Chris

I have the manual adjustable idle built into my cruise buttons, I thought most trucks have that now? Also has an auto high idle for when it's very cold out.
I have the cover on the tranny, diddn't get the pto option though. It was not expensive so I'm not sure what you would get, just a shaft out the side.

I would love to have a 30 amp circuit in the back of the truck body, been thinking about an inverter for small power tools Don't know if Dodge has something like that, might though since this truck was supposed to be built so upfitter ready. Gonna have to look into it.

JB

 

[sld]

You had to "hot wire" your Ford for a fast idle setting?

FYI, the Dodge RAM diesel trucks (2004-present) ALL have a factory high idle setting (not just PTO trucks).
With the truck idling in park and e-brake set, press the Cruise ON switch followed by the SET switch. Idle increases to 1100. Use the ACCEL and COAST to raise or lower idle speed. I guess that is just another one of those Dodge/Cummins advances that the others added after Dodge did like an exhaust brake...

Warming the engine in the cold winter mornings, powering high draw electrical equipment from your alternator, etc...

Do the dodge gas engines have this feature or just the diesel?

 

[Dmace]

Do the dodge gas engines have this feature or just the diesel?

Diesel only.

 

[timswi]

it should be standard equip in my dodge. that way i could pull myself off the side of the road every time this **** truck breaks down

That is funny:laughing:

 

[Diamondpilot]

What good is high idle if your not using the PTO?

Warming up the truck, jump starting other cars, pulling hay wagon across the field, ect. I use it more than you would think.

Chris

 

[Diamondpilot]

You had to "hot wire" your Ford for a fast idle setting?

FYI, the Dodge RAM diesel trucks (2004-present) ALL have a factory high idle setting (not just PTO trucks).
With the truck idling in park and e-brake set, press the Cruise ON switch followed by the SET switch. Idle increases to 1100. Use the ACCEL and COAST to raise or lower idle speed. I guess that is just another one of those Dodge/Cummins advances that the others added after Dodge did like an exhaust brake...

Warming the engine in the cold winter mornings, powering high draw electrical equipment from your alternator, etc...

I believe I read on a Ford Forum that the 6.0 had a very similar feature.

Nothing really to hot wire. The wire is there, just not hooked up unless needed. I simply hooked it to the up-fitter switches Ford has. You know, the little features Ford comes out with and leads the pack such as Factory Brake Controllers, Up-fitter Switches, Man Steps.:laughing:

The others will catch up someday and have it also...

Chris

 

[Dmace]

I simply hooked it to the up-fitter switches Ford has. You know, the little features Ford comes out with and leads the pack such as Factory Brake Controllers, Up-fitter Switches, Man Steps.:laughing:

The others will catch up someday and have it also...

Chris

Actually the RAM has 4 integrated accessory up-fitter switches as well as room for more. The difference is it can also run tandem pumps on the PTO, has programmable engine speed settings, and a million mile diesel engine. You can keep the Man Step!

 

[Diamondpilot]

Actually the RAM has 4 integrated accessory up-fitter switches as well. The difference is it can also run tandem pumps on the PTO, has programmable engine speed settings, and a million mile diesel engine. You can keep the Man Step!

Glad they are keeping up with Ford. They had them 6 years ago. The lead the way and the others follow.

Million mile motor on a 100,000 mile truck. Like putting spinner wheels on a 78 Cutlass.:confused2::laughing:

Whats funny about the Man Step is its a great idea. Only guys who make fun of it are the ones who's favorite brands do not have them, YET. Everyone I know with them like the feature.

Chris

 

[sld]

I wired one of my upfitters for the high idle on my V10. When hooked directly to the switch it goes to about 1200 rpms. You can hook a potentiometer inline and adjust all the way up to 2k rpm.

I use it more than I thought especially any time there is a high current draw like full heat / ac with all lights on. I also have some aux lights on the back and a receiver mounted winch. May not even need it but there are quite a few more amps available at 1200 rpms than the 750 rpm idle.

 

[Dmace]

Million mile motor on a 100,000 mile truck. Like putting spinner wheels on a 78 Cutlass.:confused2::laughing:

Better than a 50,000 mile motor in a 100,000 mile truck.

Only guys who make fun of it are the ones who's favorite brands do not have them, YET.

Actually, the ones that make fun of it are the ones that don't need a cane to walk, a handrail to go up stairs and don't have an AARP card yet. Did you take your Centrum Silver this morning? :dance1:

 

[Diamondpilot]

I wired one of my upfitters for the high idle on my V10. When hooked directly to the switch it goes to about 1200 rpms. You can hook a potentiometer inline and adjust all the way up to 2k rpm.

I use it more than I thought especially any time there is a high current draw like full heat / ac with all lights on. I also have some aux lights on the back and a receiver mounted winch. May not even need it but there are quite a few more amps available at 1200 rpms than the 750 rpm idle.

Nice that Ford has it available on the gas motors also. Was not aware of that.

Chris