Batt. charging ideas

[chuck172]

I'm picking up a harbor frieght winch today. I want to mount it to my 1971 ford 4500 tlb.
Thinking of making some type of quick mount to the top of the loader. I'm going to be using the winch for logging some "can't get to" firewood.
The tlb now uses a 12 vdc generator. I suppose I can replace it with a one wire alternator, but then I'll loose my tach. No real big deal. Do you guys think maybe I'll be o.k with the very low output generator? I'll just pull a little at a time, real slow and careful.

 

[zmoz]

I'm picking up a harbor frieght winch today. I want to mount it to my 1971 ford 4500 tlb.
Thinking of making some type of quick mount to the top of the loader. I'm going to be using the winch for logging some "can't get to" firewood.
The tlb now uses a 12 vdc generator. I suppose I can replace it with a one wire alternator, but then I'll loose my tach. No real big deal. Do you guys think maybe I'll be o.k with the very low output generator? I'll just pull a little at a time, real slow and careful.

Could you add a second battery and alternator while still leaving the original generator? The extra alternator would only charge the extra battery and your tach would work.

I don't know how much charging power you're working with, but it's probably not enough...

 

[chuck172]

That would work fine, might be tough to do though. I guess I'd have to somehow add a pulley somewhere.

 

[zmoz]

Do you know what the max amp draw of the winch is? If you have a big enough deep cycle battery (or two) you might be able to get away with no charging at all (plug it in when you're done) or very low charging from the old generator, depending on how much you really need to use it.

 

[goldenwings]

Yeah it will work, you may be disappointed though unless you have a long time to get these trees. I am doing the same thing on my JD2520 with a front mounted 4500 lb winch. I can usually get 4-5 full 60' pulls before the battery starts to poop out. My tractor only has a 20 amp alternator, so I try to stagger my pulls in between some hauling/other activities not drawing any battery current.

When I get close to the 4500 lb limit or 9000 lbs i guess, with a snatch block, the 5 or so feet a minute seems like an eternity. However that being said, sometimes it is the only way to get these trees out of the woods.

As a self recovery winch it is indispensable though, as being stuck in the woods is no fun.

At the end of the day i generally throw the battery on the charger to top it off.

 

[chuck172]

I have all the time in the world to winch. No hurry. I'm going to try the marine battery on its own first. See what kind of winching time I get.

 

[retiredIW]

i think i would just use snatch blocks and a long cable looped to the tractor. back up to pull the log so you can see what you are doing. have safety cage around operator to keep from doing damage if cable snaps.

 

[chuck172]

Thats what I've been doing my whole life. There are trees I need to get at that I just can't get to with long cables and snatch blocks. I think a winch might do what I want but powering the winch is tough.
Seems like self powered portable winches go for an arm and a leg, small chain saw winches have their negatives.
a helicopter would do the job.

 

[Soundguy]

you are over thinking this.. the 20a genny will charge the tractor batter which I would parallel with the winch battery.. both will be charged...

soundguy

 

[retiredIW]

Thats what I've been doing my whole life. There are trees I need to get at that I just can't get to with long cables and snatch blocks. I think a winch might do what I want but powering the winch is tough.
Seems like self powered portable winches go for an arm and a leg, small chain saw winches have their negatives.
a helicopter would do the job.

and that wouldnt cost an arm and leg. ive used helicopters to set big units on a roof. now that is exspensive