Buying Advice ym2000BD is the price right?

[California]

I hate to say it but I think you're right. A used second-tier tractor Mahindra, Kyoti, etc on Cragslist will cost about the same and have more features like power steering, rear remotes etc. It may have under 200 hours. I would still budget the same reserve for unexpected repairs however.

As I see it, a less expensive used Yanmar is a great bargain because they're indestructible. However paying an additional $4000 for pride-of-ownership pretty and the right to call it 'reconditioned' is not the best use of my money. I would buy a shiny Yanmar-manufactured Deere if I put more importance on impressing my neighbors - but it's not a consideration. Maybe if I ran a Dressage stable or something.

I'm reminded of a comment from Rick Steve, PBS travel correspondent and tour guide. People ask him how his tour customers can afford international travel on middle-class salaries. He said there is one major factor - his customers drive their cars ten years instead of trading in every three years like the manufacturers want you to do. The difference is what makes funds available for travel. Different people make different choices; this is how they prefer to spend their money.

 

[clemsonfor]

Also, was the Craigslist ad you saw include the 4wd "d" model?

Right, i forgot we were talking 4wd and your talking a 2000B right.
No the one i saw was a plain ym2000 2wd non fancy dash model.

as far as the plow id go with only 1 bottom, i dont have one, but am lookin, these tractors do not have the weight and therefore traction to pull a 2 bottom.

 

[KFree]

Just an example of what's out there.

07 John Deere 3 4X4-TLM

fwiw,

Keith

 

[KFree]

Buyer beware...with anything anymore. Looks like a different tractor to me but no reason to not be extra cautious...especially for that much coin. If the ad is real, I'd bet that it is being sold for what is owed on it.

 

[careyo63]

My point Exactly.... If I was looking to br Purchasing a Tractor my Butt would be all over that. Since your in the market to buy a tractor check on it let us know what comes about with it.

 

[California]

Just an example of what's out there.

07 John Deere 3 4X4-TLM

Fraud.

'She' has listings from Vermont to Alabama.

That returned nine CL ads, but click on the + symbols to see an additional nine or so duplicates.

 

[Survey1]

Its difficult to find a used name brand with the specs I'd like. I enjoy simplistic gear transmission and no power steering versus complicated and expensive potential repairs. I was looking into a JD 850 not too long ago and ended up at about the same price as a recon Yanmar. I know its the same animal but a recon yanmar has at least a short warranty. I find the warranty useful just to prevent a near-term catastrophic failure becoming a total loss of investment. If that makes sense.

 

[winston1]

I pull a 2 row disc type turning plow with my 2002d, same horse power as the 2000. Horsepower is not the issue. Traction is. In my opinion the disc type plow pulls easier than a bladed plow. I just put fluid in my rear tires and have not used the turning plow since and probably won't until next winter. Summing all this up, I have used a 1 bottom blade plow and pulled it with no trouble at all but I really think a 2 bottom would be to much if you have hard soil. Soft soil you would be ok.

 

[Survey1]

Thanks for the plow input Clemsonfor and Winston. One blade it shall be. Since I have some pretty tough stuff to dig into. 2 would make the job quicker, but I think I'll enjoy the extra seat time!

 

[careyo63]

IMO.just like alot of people just get a tiller. Thats all I use In my Rock Hard Ga. Red Clay. Worst case senario I would drop the splines on my BB. if needed. Never have though Here is a pic with my RS 1400.

 

[KFree]

Fraud.

'She' has listings from Vermont to Alabama.

That returned nine CL ads, but click on the + symbols to see an additional nine or so duplicates.

I guess it if looks too good to be true it probably is.

Keith

 

[Survey1]

Bunches of those scam ads on Craigslist....I get all excited on the subject heading and then "click"......booo hisss a totally unrealistic deal appears. By the way, the original dealer has said the 2000BD will be on the lot tomorrow. Inadvertently, I ran across his supplier and he has virtually the same deal but with less warranty....3mo. I am waiting to hear back from yet another dealer for a price. But I think I am going to roll the dice on the original deal if he can deliver. If there isn't a 2000BD on the lot tommorrow that passes my scrutiny, I will go elswhere. Oh and Carey, I may go with a tiller from the same place you got yours.....anything I should look for when selecting one from the pile? The checkbook is armed and dangerous.

 

[careyo63]

A whole pile of em. I had a choice 1 at least it had new Tines. I had a grocerey list of misc. parts to get so I picked it up while I was there. Last time I was over at Spalding his wasn't much more then what I gave for mine but the quality put mine to shame. I never would of figured :ashamed:

Carey

 

[California]

2000BD is a nice model, a good choice. I hope the roll of dice on quality comes up in your favor.


Tillers: Just look for the simple stuff. They are near indestructible. But get an exchange warranty in case the internal gears/chain are torn up. (Not likely, but maybe nobody inspected it).

Be sure the tiller includes its driveshaft.

And be sure to get the special top link that the tiller requires. This is a rigid 'bridge' that clips on the back of the tractor and goes halfway back, then a short (8-10 inches) upper link that goes the rest of the way back. You can't use a regular upper link because with that, lifting the tiller pushes it right into the tires. And don't accept a tiller with a new set of lower pins welded on farther forward, which was sometimes an owner's attempt to fix this lift problem. That 'fix' would need a new longer (expensive) driveshaft.

Be sure it has a full set of tines. The original tines are great. Replacements are expensive and can be poor to fair quality.

Drain the tiller and replace with fresh fluid (90 wt gear oil) no matter what they tell you. These were run half-submerged for 20 years then sat in a scrap pile for another 10 accumulating condensation inside. There's sure to be some water mixed in the oil.

Plan to inspect and repack the lower off-side bearing (same as packing a wheel bearing). A few of us have found water in there.

Enjoy!

 

[careyo63]

Thanks California that would have taken me all night to go through. I do have a pic for the top link. Went Through the Wrong Dr. shaft. I'll do Survey1 a favor and show him what the correct one looks like for a YM2000 which the Rs1400 was Factory for it. I'll see if I can find my pic. of what it's not supposed to look like also

 

[clemsonfor]

Its difficult to find a used name brand with the specs I'd like. I enjoy simplistic gear transmission and no power steering versus complicated and expensive potential repairs. I was looking into a JD 850 not too long ago and ended up at about the same price as a recon Yanmar. I know its the same animal but a recon yanmar has at least a short warranty. I find the warranty useful just to prevent a near-term catastrophic failure becoming a total loss of investment. If that makes sense.

You can get an 80's JD without loader for under 4K in that size. You can get a koti or manihandra, both good secondary market tractors you can get with a oader in the mid 20hp range with far less than 500 hours on them for 6-10k

 

[clemsonfor]

If you buy it, run it a lot that first month to make sure all the bugs get worked out. I put 40-60 hours or so on mine that warrenty period. I needed a new voltage regulator, replacement of the valve on the 3pt as it was bypassing and causing the fluid to overheat and therfore not lift when warm, when cold it operated normal. They just swapped the whole 3pt assembly with another tractor that was in the shop to avod trouble shootig time for me. This one is in good shape, holds in place and will only very slow leak down when tractor is shut down and implement left in air, the old would drop like a sack of rocks when the tractor was turned off. I had to tighten a injector line that was loose and slobbering deisel. Then the crack on top of the radiator, that wen hot would mist out fluid, not run hot just spray everything, took it off ran it to them next time i was around and got another, it leaked where the guy who pulled it out cracked the bypass tube and tried to braze it up, he was no good so it leaked, i called and he pulled another out of a tractor it leaked at the bottom of the radiator somewhere unseen. I called and he was frustrated remember this was 3 radiators, one he put the hole in 2 came from the supplier with the tiny leaks, so he gave me a new out of the box radiator. Was a close fit but not exact i think i had to bend the shroud in a few spots to get it to fit, one of those moding aftermarket parts. One year later though no leaks.

No major problems but just a hassel. And even if i had to pay for all this out of pocket your looking at $60 i think for a used valve from hoye. $250-300ish for a radiator online, and $25ish for the regulator. Knock on wood.

 

[Survey1]

Bought her today!!!! YM2000BD w/FEL. Bought a new trailer as well from a different place. I've been running all over town this afternoon just to get this done. I'm exhausted. I'm glad the dealer stayed late by 2 hours past closing to finish the deal so I'll be able to make a run to the barn tomorrow after work and tinker with my new machine. So far I've enjoyed my buying experience. I'll give more details after I get some sleep....I think 4:30a.m. is gonna come quick. And Thanks to all that contributed advice toward my buying experience.

 

[284 International]

Congratulations on your purchase! Make sure to post pictures, and tell us how it performs for you. I wish I had a 4 wheel drive; in this area they are extremely rare. Did you end up with a tiller or other implements? I hope you enjoy your new machine.

 

[careyo63]

Very nice choice on the Model. Glad your happy with your New to You Tractor and thats what matters the most. :thumbsup:

Carey