Buying Advice Anyone else thinking about buying a new 1026r?

[Magilla1]

I've been dying for information on the new 1023/1026 since I first heard about it. I get the concept of the long roll out, but JD has really frozen me -- I was really close to buying a 2320 (or maybe a 2520) this past summer/fall, but when I heard of the great improvements made to the 2305 a la the new 1023/1026 model, I stopped short. I've been scouring the 'net to try to find information about it, but TBN pretty much is the source of everything. Still, it looks really good!

Seems like JD has come up with a great machine. It sounds like it'll be a great mowing machine for the "big lawn" residential setting with plenty of umph for the average guy with some acreage to take care of gravel driveways, pushing snow, moving mulch and dirt, etc. I'm really, really interested and so have completely held off buying the 2320. I'm having a hard time seeing what the 2320 would still have over the new 1026.

Anyone else having these thoughts, too? Obviously, I know buying a new model is always risky, and of course I have laid my eyes on one yet, but still, it sounds really good.

 

[JB2]

Hi

I would love too, but not with the New price increase according to the local JD dealer, and I just picked up a 05 Deere 2305 for a Sweet deal that was too good to pass up, maybe in the future I will upgrade to a 1026R once they have been out on the market for a few yrs. Nice looking tractor though! Can't wait to see one in person.

Take Care Jason B

 

[Kep]

Unless I really find something I can't live with I'll get one this spring. A guy on a differant board found a small dealership in Texas that has the price listed at $11,100, seems about $1,000 low to me.

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[JeffinNE]

We're in the same situation, Magilla. Need more info! I doubt the 1026R will have the full CAT 1 3 pt like the 2320. For me one of the big considerations will be the ability to pull one of the commercial grade 3 pt core aerators--I had serious doubts the 2305 could have handled it and feel comfortable the 2320 could. Isn't the 1026R going to have more hp than the 2305?

Plus, I think the final price difference between the 2 equiped with a loader and MMM will be that much? The 2320 was about $2600 more than the 2305 and I have a feeling the 1026R will be at least $1000 higher than the 2305?

One of my reservations (proabably the only one) on the 2320 has been the MMM height adjustment--I've read of too many issues with not being able to accurately set the height like you can on the X series mowers. Wondering if this issue has been fixed with the 1026R?

 

[Grateful11]

I tried my best to get some info out my dealer yesterday but all he had to show me was a little spiral bound book with a few specs. listed in it. He said he saw it at a corp. meeting and said it's going to be really nice.

 

[jenkinsph]

For those considering using these machines as a small tractor/mower all in one tool I would go for a 2520. I don't think there is much chance of the new models competing with the usefulness of the 2520 models. How small can you go and still have any tractor usefulness?

I was at my Deere dealer yesterday and he had me check out a new 3032 he had while he finished up with another customer. Tried it out on a dirt pile and with a boxblade for about 15 or 20 minutes. For the money it seems to be alot of tractor, some good value there. I did consider that something like this 3032 and an X320 to 360 rider would work well for most people in residential to small acreage.

The 2305 and its new replacements just seem to small to expect much out of them as far as being a "tractor". It would seem this would cause the buyers to feel the need to move up in size too soon, loosing money in the upgrade.

 

[newt92]

For those considering using these machines as a small tractor/mower all in one tool I would go for a 2520. I don't think there is much chance of the new models competing with the usefulness of the 2520 models. How small can you go and still have any tractor usefulness?

I agree. I went from a 2210 to the 2520 and huge difference! Overall size wise, yea its larger, but can still go anywhere the 2210 went. As far as loader work, its a whole different beast!! Its a heavier machine, making loader work so much more safe.

IMO, if you can afford it, spend the extra $$ and get the machine one or two sizes up from what you think you need. Now going from a 2520 to a 3XXX series, thats a whole nother ballgame.

 

[Deadman]

Same here 2210 to 2520, and I don't know how I Managed with the 2210 for those years. I wish my 2520 was bigger sometimes! :laughing:

 

[jenkinsph]

Same here 2210 to 2520, and I don't know how I Managed with the 2210 for those years. I wish my 2520 was bigger sometimes! :laughing:

Recently I was shopping for a small unit and considered the 2000 series and the X700 series. The 2305 was the least desireable model in my opinion after much looking and debate with myself. I didn't feel the tiny tractor was capable of many real tractor tasks with such small wheels and low weight. Since I have three larger tractors already I decided the X749 with AWS and 4x4 was a better arrangement. Granted I wasn't willing to put a loader or backhoe on any of these little units. Most of the time the scut's are used for mowing and light lawn maintenance. I felt the X749 was a better choice for most of the jobs performed by this size equipment. With the rear pto and 3pt hitch it has worked out well so far. What I am trying to get across is this size machine is a lawnmower not a tractor for ground engaging activites.

For someone looking for a tractor with a fel I think the starting point would be the 2520 with proper ballast. This is where you get the ability to handle the larger tasks even if it takes longer to do. For a variety of small jobs this tractor is a winner.

In my case the jump from the X749 to the 4000 lb and up tractors is very workable, some people might be suprized how many places a 4520 will fit in residential settings. Where the larger tractors won't fit is where the X749 fills in, so it only has to do small areas tilling around trees and raking the ground smooth.

I hope the 2520 is working out for you.:thumbsup:

 

[jcmseven]

The mid mount D series mowers on these 2020 series machines seems good to me. I have one on my 2320 and have zero trouble. It mows almost as well as the 950 ZTR I have and in my opinion a little better than the X series machines I have used. It cuts smooth and pretty fast and the cut is quite level. With correct set up, this should not be an issue.

John M

 

[bill in ny]

The mid mount D series mowers on these 2020 series machines seems good to me. I have one on my 2320 and have zero trouble. It mows almost as well as the 950 ZTR I have and in my opinion a little better than the X series machines I have used. It cuts smooth and pretty fast and the cut is quite level. With correct set up, this should not be an issue.

John M

i agree with john. the 2305 fit my situation the best. of coarse if i need a bigger loader, i can use one of the ag tractors or the bh. to me the 2000 series look more like tractors than the x series. with the 2305 i can get into some tight spots around the farm. very handy little tractor.

 

[Johndeere3720]

I have also been following up on all the info i can get on the 10 series. IMO, the 1023E will be almost like the Kubota BX tractors, similar to the BX2360 mostly with the rigid ROPS and the D120 FEL. The 1026R will be similar to the BX25 with the fold-able ROPS and the H120 FEL. The D120 FEL is pin on where you actually remove the FEL arms and cylinders yet leave the loader posts on the machine and only have a pin on bucket. The H120 FEL will be a quick park unit, similar to the 200CX loader and offer a removable bucket. Both of these loaders have an increased capacity of 25% on the 1 series tractors vs. the 2305. The 1026R will have a little more ground clearance over the 1023E. Both units will have auto hitch, independent deck lift, and the ability to run 7 iron MMMs. JD also moved the fuel tank to under the seat and put the fuel cap on the fender, a much more convenient location compared to the tank under the hood on the 2305.

1023E
22.3Hp
independent Mower lift
Auto connect mower
Auto Hitch
Higher loader lift Capacity

1026R
25.5hp
independent Mower lift
Auto connect mower
Auto Hitch
Higher loader lift Capacity

I think they will be good units but would be uneasy as these are brand new units and will take some time until possible issues with the units are fixed or resolved. It would be great to hear about it if you purchase one of these units in the future.:thumbsup:

 

[OldMan]

Take a look at what John Deere just posted on their web site!
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OldMan

 

[bud4410]

check out the engine control system warranty on the new 1000 series in the above operators manual. 2 years 1500 hrs. my 2010 3520 is 5 years 3000 hrs. wonder why the change? bud

 

[Chooglin]

Take a look at what John Deere just posted on their web site!
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OldMan

Thanks for posting

 

[OldMan]

check out the engine control system warranty on the new 1000 series in the above operators manual. 2 years 1500 hrs. my 2010 3520 is 5 years 3000 hrs. wonder why the change? bud

This is the same as the 2305, looks like the copied it word for word. Read the second paragraph at the start of the warranty "Engine related warranties stated in this manual refer only to emissions related parts and components of your engine. The complete engine warranty, less emission-related parts and components, is provided separately as the Limited Warranty for New John Deere Commercial & Consumer Equipment."

OldMan

 

[bud4410]

thats what i am saying. they are only giving warranty on the emission components for 2 yrs. where before it was 5 yrs. bud

 

[bud4410]

in checking further i find that the emission components on the new 1000 series & the 2000 series are 2 yrs but yet the 3000 & 4000 series are both 5 years. quite a difference............bud

 

[MARKMILES77]

All the specs of the 1023E/1026R.
I am surprised with regards the engines:
1026R engine HP is up v the 2305 (25.5 v 24) but not PTO HP (18 v 18). Why bother?
1023E PTO HP is only 15.3 despite having almost the same engine HP as the 2305 (23.5 v 24).

Does this mean Deere are targeting the 1023E with it's low PTO HP against the Kubota BX1860/ NH Boomer 1020?
While the 1026R is targeted against the Kubota BX2360, MF GC2400 etc.
And Deere are not aiming to have any competitor to the Kubota BX2660 MF GC2600 etc?

Engine
Model 1023E
Manufacturer Yanmar
Model Number 3TNM72
Type Diesel
Gross Horsepower 17.3 kW (23.5 hp)
PTO Horsepower 11.4 kW (15.3 hp)
Cylinders Three
Rated Engine Speed 3200 rpm
Operating Range 1400 - 3370 rpm
Cooling Type Liquid
Oil Filter Standard Single Element
Air Cleaner Dry Type, Two Stage

Model 1026R
Manufacturer Yanmar
Model Number 3TNV76
Type Diesel
Gross Horsepower 18.5 kW (25.2 hp)
PTO Horsepower 13.4 kW (18.0 hp)
Cylinders Three
Rated Engine Speed 3200 rpm
Operating Range 1400 - 3370 rpm
Cooling Type Liquid
Oil Filter Standard Single Element
Air Cleaner Dry Type, Two Stage

Drivetrain
Type 2 Range Hydrostatic
Number of Speeds Infinite
Mechanical Front Wheel Drive (MFWD) Standard
MFWD Capability All Ranges
MFWD Engagement On The Go
Final Drive Spur Gear
Rear Axle Capacity (Continuous) 715 kg (1576 lb)
Front Axle Capacity (Continuous) 612 kg (1349 lb)

Electrical System
Type 12 Volt
Battery Size 500 Cold Cranking Amps @ -18C (0F)
Alternator 40 amp

Front Wheels and Tires
Standard 18x8.5-10 R4

Optional 18x8.5-10 R3

Rear Wheels and Tires
Standard 26x12.00-12 R4
Optional 26x12.00-12 R3

Front Tire Inflation Pressures (Maximum)
18x8.5-10 R4 152 kPa (22 psi)
18x8.5-10 R3 152 kPa (22 psi)

Rear Tire Inflation Pressures (Maximum)
26x12.00-12 R4 138 kPa (20 psi)
26x12.00-12 R3 138 kPa (20 psi)

Fluid Capacities
Fuel Tank 21.2 L (5.6 gal)

Cooling System 3.7 L (3.9 qt)

Crankcase with Filter 2.7 L (2.9 qt)

Transmission and Hydraulic System 12.3 L (13 qt)

Front Axle 2.8 L (3.0 qt)

Ground Speeds
NOTE: All ground speed calculations shown are with machine equipped with standard 26x12.00-12 R4 rear tires and operated at 3200 engine rpm.

Forward and Reverse - Range High 0-14.6 km/h (0-9.1 mph)

Forward and Reverse - Range Low 0-6.6 km/h (0-4.1 mph)

Dimensions
NOTE: Machine equipped with standard 26x12.00-12 R4 rear tires and 18x8.5-10 R4 front tires.

Wheelbase 1450 mm (57.1 in.)
Overall Length with 3-point Hitch 2605 mm (102.6 in.)
Overall Width 1202 mm (47.3 in.)
Tread Width
Front 918 mm (36.1 in.)
Rear 895 mm (35.2 in.)
Height From Ground
To Top of Hood (R3 Tires) 1061 mm (42 in.)
To Top of ROPS 1968 mm (77.5 in.)
Ground Clearance
Front Axle 195 mm (7.7 in.)
Turning Radius
MFWD Off 2256 mm (88.8 in.)

Weight
Machine equipped with a ROPS, 3-point hitch, standard R4 tires and all fluids
1023E 610 kg (1345 lb)
1026R 655 kg (1444 lb)

3-Point Hitch
Type Limited Category 1
Lift Capacity-61 cm (24 in.) behind link arms 309 kg (681 lb)
Lift Capacity-at link ends 650 kg (1433 lb)

 

[jsb2b]

Wow. All that redesigning and they still let a woman design the Transmission Range Shift Lever to make geldings out of us. With that wide knob, it looks more painful than the 2305's PTO selector.