Troy Bilt Cultivator

[dangier_VA]

Have a question on a Troy Bilt Cultivator. It is a 4 cycle gas tiller that has been blowing the crankcase and valve cover seals. Found that the crankcase vent was plugged by the crank seal assembly. Of course it is out of warranty... Finally purchased a new crank assembly and am reassembling. Anyone know how the camshaft gear lines up with the crank? It has been apart numerous times and I don't recall the original line-up. One of the times I ran it, it was popping back through the carb at higher speeds, but ran. I have attached a picture showing the camshaft gear on top of the hole it drops into. The gear has a line (shown) that is lined up with the end of the crank tdc between two lines on the case.
Anyone had this engine apart?
Thanks in advance.
David

 

[David-Davies]

dangier_VA. At TDC exost stroke, the intake valve is just opening and the exost valve is just closing. Rock the camshaft, so both valves are opened the same amount. That will be TDC exost. After you mesh the gears, remember to rotate the crank one full turn to return to TDC compresion, to set the timing.
David-Davies

 

[dangier_VA]

David-Davies
Thanks for the reply. Lined up the gear and crankshaft as shown, run through the cycle and confirmed the intake and exhaust valve operation at the right time. Put everything back together and it runs like a champ!
Many thanks.

 

[David-Davies]

Dangier VA, Glad to help. There are a lot of engines that don't have proper timing marks, so this is a good thing to know
David-Davies

 

[dcyrilc]

What's the difference between a tiller and a cultivator?

 

[David-Davies]

I'm surprised that no one has ansured this one for you. I'm not sure but I think a tiller, has it's own engine. Rotavater is a tiller that hooks up to your tractor. A cultivator, is big hooks that you hook up to your tractor, that rips the ground. If the ground is well worked, then you only have to use a cultivator, usally it will have wege type cutters bolted to the tines on the cultivator. If you take the winged cutters of the cultivator, then you can rip the ground up before you till the ground.
David-Davies

 

[dcyrilc]

I'm surprised that no one has ansured this one for you. I'm not sure but I think a tiller, has it's own engine. Rotavater is a tiller that hooks up to your tractor. A cultivator, is big hooks that you hook up to your tractor, that rips the ground. If the ground is well worked, then you only have to use a cultivator, usally it will have wege type cutters bolted to the tines on the cultivator. If you take the winged cutters of the cultivator, then you can rip the ground up before you till the ground.
David-Davies

Thanks for the description. If I understand correctly, a cultivator was/is towed behind the tractor to tear up the ground before tilling with a disc. My Troy Built Horse is listed as a rototiller/cultivator. I assume it is listed this way because it performs both actions as it goes.

 

[David-Davies]

I think that you got it. If you rototill, then you don't have to do any thing else
David-Davies

 

[dcyrilc]

I think that you got it. If you rototill, then you don't have to do any thing else
David-Davies

I have a disc which came with my tractor, but I haven't ever tried to use it.

 

[David-Davies]

The last time I used disks, I was 12 ish. We had a 1949 massy pony tractor. I would plough the feild, then disk perpendiculer to the ploughing. The more angle you put on the disk the mor they dig.
David-Davies

 

[whodat526]

a cultivator is used for after u plant ur crops u use it to keep the ground inbetween the rows loose so the grass wont take over the plants and a tiller is used to prepare the ground before u plant ur plants u can use a walk behind tiller to cultivate with but a tractor tiller would be to wide to fit between the rows and if u take the shovels of a cultivator u can use it only after u dics u use it the break the soil below where u disc to make it where water will raise to the plants when its dry and will go done when its raining so it wont flood the plants and when u do this the cultivator would be call a chisle plow

 

[David-Davies]

When I take the shovels off my cultivator, I can dig it down a foot, in raw ground, it will pull all the roots and big rocks out of the ground. It might not be made for that but it works really good. I should get a single tooth ripper, as my cultivator is a little small for my tractor.
David-Davies

 

[dcyrilc]

When I take the shovels off my cultivator, I can dig it down a foot, in raw ground, it will pull all the roots and big rocks out of the ground. It might not be made for that but it works really good. I should get a single tooth ripper, as my cultivator is a little small for my tractor.
David-Davies

Got a picture of what your cultivator looks like?

 

[David-Davies]

I'm sorry that I don't know how to up load pitchers, BUT I put a pitcher on my profile, of my cultivator, or what I think is a cultivator. let see what happens.
David-Davies

 

[David-Davies]

OK round two,we'll see if this works.
David-Davies

 

[whodat526]

yes that is a cultivator it is a regid shank cultivator i believe they work the best

 

[dcyrilc]

Looks kinda like the scarrafiers on a box blade without the box.

To upload pictures, There is a symbol of a paper clip at the top of the dialog box when you are typing your post. Click on it and it will open a window which will allow you to browse for your pictures. After selecting your pictures (4 at a time), click the upload button and then either select up to 4 more or close the window.

 

[dangier_VA]

Just got back in town.... Troybilt calls their small tiller a cultivator. It's like the Mantis advertised on tv. It's small enough to get between plants for weeding. I just never ran it more than a few minutes to get it hot the first few years. When I did, the gaskets blew. Of course, out of warranty....
Thanks,
David

 

[dcyrilc]

Just got back in town.... Troybilt calls their small tiller a cultivator. It's like the Mantis advertised on tv. It's small enough to get between plants for weeding. I just never ran it more than a few minutes to get it hot the first few years. When I did, the gaskets blew. Of course, out of warranty....
Thanks,
David

Glad to see you back. Hope you didn't mind my borrowing your thread while you were gone. I've actually learned quite a bit.

I've seen the ads for the mantis and thought about getting something like that for after the garden is planted. My tiller/cultivator is too big to use after you've planted (see pic). How do you like yours for between the plants?

 

[dangier_VA]

Our cultivator is the Troybilt TB144. It sells for around
$299.00 now. We paid $100 less at Tractor Supply without the attachments or manuals. It seems to run ok now that I have the cam timing correct. Gets in tight to the plants without chewing up the tops or roots. Good for loosening the soil for potato hilling. Also have a Troybilt economy 6 hp tiller (circa 1973), that works great, but tears up the plants if I get too close.
David