GREASE... every 10 HOURS?

/ GREASE... every 10 HOURS? #81  
Guys like you should just take it too a dealer and not get your hands dirty.

IMO, that was mean and uncalled for.

Not all of us have a nice clean shop with a level concrete floor to work in. Trying to pull parts and get them perfectly realigned on the larger equipment can be quite challenging when you have to work on uneven dirt or grass, especially if it's something bigger than you can't push or lift by hand.

Ken
 
/ GREASE... every 10 HOURS? #82  
....My statements are made due to my knowledge when dealing with strengths of materials in my engineering field and my current professional experience when dealing with the daily maintenance of ~$7,000,000 worth of Caterpillar equipment in an industrial setting.
My statements are from owning a kubota's L2800... In THEIR words... it was "Economical" model where the suspension seat don't work from the get go, hydraulic return hoses break at <200 hours, PTO cables don't even last <225 hours, pretty sure my ratcheting cams will not see 400 hours (skipping when I'm cultivating and I'm only at 230 hours)...

So I should ignore my loader manual, written by the fine engineers at kubota, that tell me to "...grease fittings every 10 hours of operation..."??? and listen to you :mur: You really think kubota didn't skimp on the pins either??? after all, I got the chexxxx ...economical one...
 
/ GREASE... every 10 HOURS? #83  
So I should ignore my loader manual, written by the fine engineers at kubota, that tell me to "...grease fittings every 10 hours of operation..."??? and listen to you :mur: You really think kubota didn't skimp on the pins either??? after all, I got the chexxxx ...economical one...
I must have missed my own statement where I recommended not to grease every 10 hours. :confused:


Go back and read my post... I replied to the statement that I quoted
I said on post #6... I feel that just driving a gravel road or bumpy field will wear down the pins... I'll still stand by that... Take a couple hundred pounds, put it a few feet out front and bounce it around for 10 (clock) hours ...maybe my land is just not as smooth as what you guys are driving on. :confused3::confused2:
 
/ GREASE... every 10 HOURS? #84  
Sorry for misunderstanding... :)
 
/ GREASE... every 10 HOURS? #85  
I think most any pin/bushing joint that is designed to be greased that is fully greased every 10 hours should last as long as the engine on that machine.
 
/ GREASE... every 10 HOURS? #86  
...an integrated control computer and rpm-compensating meter is what, "FULLER FEATURED"??
Let's get real for a moment. We're talking about tractors, made by a tractor company. Tractors are generally used to perform a function and, generally speaking, to make money.

It is very cute that this site represents a conglomeration of folks that HAPPEN to own tractors, take an interest in them, and spend a few minutes a day sharing stories and concerns. BUT, I would politely offer that we DO NOT (generally speaking) represent the audience for which the tractors were originally designed. I would consider us a 'selected cross-section' that can't necessarilly speak for the greater audience.

There are many, many, many farmers (herders, operators, co-ops, whatevers...) that operate many, many machines on many, many fields for many, many hours that have a sincere interest in tying the operational hours of a machine to the actual RPM the engine is turning. That one feature could be the difference between servicing the machine 4 times a year or 10 times a year to the cost of $3,000 or $10,000. Crucial, I would think, to the appropriate audience.

Based only on my oberservations on this site and by using my own machine, most BX operators don't get 100 hours a year on their machine (as shown on their chincy time-based hour meter). If this were one of the more expensive integrated control computer and rpm-compensating meter, not only would this add $300 per tractor, but it would entice folks to only service their tractors every 3 years (or whenever 100 hours finally rolls over on their expensive hour-meter).

I wouldn't consider this cheap. I would consider this intelligent design, appropriate to the focused audience of the BX line of tractors.

As these discussions always should, this goes back to the OP in that the "10 hour increment" would be 10 hours of use. 2 days, for example, of building a garden for your wife. 6 weeks of turning the compost. 3 weeks of scooping horse poop. I have no idea what relation that has to the reading on the hour-meter, but I would suspect that the individual user would (should) have a pretty good feel for the machine.

Yes, I am oversensitive. I paid a lot of money for my tractor and don't like my purchase to be marginalized.
 
/ GREASE... every 10 HOURS? #87  
Keith, no comment from an oaf in BubbaLand will ever marginalize your tractor. I know you know that. I was just replying to a comment about rpm meters (they are alive and well).

Heck, I fairly flamed the last guy to troll on BX's (remember the caveat emptor Kubota-hating YouTube-posting wheelie boy?).

I also agree most of the users here have such low hours it doesn't matter. Residential tractors don't wear out so much as just die of old age.

I will never use the term "low-end" here again. Ever. I promise. :drink:
 
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/ GREASE... every 10 HOURS? #88  
The manual says to grease "Every 10 hours".
The manual also calls that meter with the "hours" on it the "Hour Meter".
I'm pretty sure (computer is not in the barn) that the meter itself calls whatever it is measuing "Hours" right on its face.

I think we can assume that whether or not the meter is measuring operational hours as per a clock, or RPM hours, that what is meant is to grease every 10 hours on the "Hour Meter". What else could be reasonably meant?
Why would they put a meter called an "Hour Meter" on the tractor, and tell you to use it to gauge greasing times, when what they really wanted you to do was ignore the meter they carefully put there for you and use some other equally innaccurate measurement?

Taking it further, we all know that 10 <whatevers> on the meter does not always equate to a set number of "traveled inches" by a given loader joint, which is what would really need to be measured if trying to accurately determine how much work some grease got.
Which all boils down to, "grease pretty often, using your judgement, and somewhere around 10 hours of usage."
 
/ GREASE... every 10 HOURS?
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#89  
My statements are from owning a kubota's L2800... In THEIR words... it was "Economical" model where the suspension seat don't work from the get go, hydraulic return hoses break at <200 hours, PTO cables don't even last <225 hours, pretty sure my ratcheting cams will not see 400 hours (skipping when I'm cultivating and I'm only at 230 hours)...

So I should ignore my loader manual, written by the fine engineers at kubota, that tell me to "...grease fittings every 10 hours of operation..."??? and listen to you :mur: You really think kubota didn't skimp on the pins either??? after all, I got the chexxxx ...economical one...

OK Guys! Back in Feb. all I was trying to do was get an honest answer on how to maintain my machine! :confused2: I have used tractors most of my life and I thought I asked a simple question. (I never had one with a loader though) I would like to thank you because I have formed an answer from all of the inputs I have read. I can sleep easy knowing that my loader now has the right amount of grease on it! ONE HINT....... I still get grease on me if I lean on it!:laughing:
 
/ GREASE... every 10 HOURS? #90  
:thumbsup::cool2::drink:

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/ GREASE... every 10 HOURS? #91  
The manual says to grease "Every 10 hours".
The manual also calls that meter with the "hours" on it the "Hour Meter".
I'm pretty sure (computer is not in the barn) that the meter itself calls whatever it is measuing "Hours" right on its face.

I certainly assume that it only needs grease when it's USED for ten hours. I don't grease the loader if I'm bushogging for 20 hours. The grease that's in there isn't going anywhere and there will be virtually zero wear on the loader while I'm bushhogging or scraping dirt with the box blade.


Why would they put a meter called an "Hour Meter" on the tractor, and tell you to use it to gauge greasing times, when what they really wanted you to do was ignore the meter they carefully put there for you and use some other equally innaccurate measurement?

Ummmm.....probably because it's primary use is for engine maintenance (e.g. oil changes).

Ken
 
/ GREASE... every 10 HOURS? #92  
ONE HINT....... I still get grease on me if I lean on it!:laughing:

Yeah if someone can figure out how not to get greasy when leaning over or
just hooking an implement to a tractor will they please let us know. I know
every now and then you get lucky and don't get any on you but usually you do. ;-)
 
/ GREASE... every 10 HOURS? #94  
grease em all ya want..the pins are too **** soft and are wore out on my fel with less than 200 hrs on it....tractor got about 500...bx 2200..dlr says i grease em too much and they collect dirt..whatever..the pins are not as good as my 60 yr old jd backhoe pins..the bx will never be running at the 60 yr old mark
 
/ GREASE... every 10 HOURS? #95  
IMO, that was mean and uncalled for.

Not all of us have a nice clean shop with a level concrete floor to work in. Trying to pull parts and get them perfectly realigned on the larger equipment can be quite challenging when you have to work on uneven dirt or grass, especially if it's something bigger than you can't push or lift by hand.

Ken

Ken,

I just saw this post and wanted to apologize. It was in jest but I seem to forget when typing you can't see that I am kidding.
 
/ GREASE... every 10 HOURS? #96  
If you are pushing grease in and none is coming out the sides, then it needs greasing. If it does come out the sides, then wipe off the excess as it just collect dust and dirt, leading to premature failure.
 
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/ GREASE... every 10 HOURS? #97  
We greased dozers and backhoes every morning but we got paid by the hour,good thing to do while you woke up and drank some coffee,but my tractor,I grease maybe 2-3 times a year,put over 100 hours on it a year,so...
 
/ GREASE... every 10 HOURS? #98  
I read somewhere in the chain here about only greasin every 10 hours of loader work.. and I also read that you grease every 10 hours of tractor use...

For what it's worth..
I grease every 10 hours of tractor use..
The reason is when I am moving around with the loader on, it vibrates alittle and moves a little and I even move the loader up and down for clearance here and there...
so even slight movement can move the grease.. and if that puppy is grading with a box or blade dirt can get in there.. new grease can push that stuff out...
so hi ho hi ho it's off to grease I go..... :D
 
/ GREASE... every 10 HOURS? #99  
One of my least favorite things to go with my machines. I bought a lincoln cordless grease gun to try and make it easier.. yes a little easier, but still not big fun... I do it every other day (or 3rd day) of use, 8-14 hours. I don't count the days I start it up to do a 10 minute job.
 
/ GREASE... every 10 HOURS? #100  
while were on this subject..is the oil change at 40 hrs??

cuz if it is thats a load of it....

if i go by the truck...i drive an hr each way every day 7 days a week. at least. i dont change it til 5000 mi....about every month and half or so. its a 2500 cummins dodge..if that oil is good for 150 hrs then why aint the tractors..i dang sure aint werkin any harder than my truck pulling my camper or tractors
 
 
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