Got a 2305 quote today

RSica · Jan 9, 2010

Hi guys,

Longtime Deere user here thats decided to step up from a 345 54"mmm w/
powerflo and 48" Snow plow to a 3205 w/ FEL, 62" mmm and 54" front blade w/ front hitch. Now keep in mind this is a trade in quote and not a straight buy quote as I've read here many times. Just looking for a few good opinions and whether I'm better off getting a straight buy quote and selling the 345 outright. Any thoughts are greatly appreciated !

I will say I was expecting some discounting but found the trade was the only knock off the list pricing. I will be soliciting other quotes soon as I'm trying to take advantage of the current financing that is through Feb 1st.

Here are the figures:

2010 2305: $11,469

200CX Loader w/ ballast box + 53" bucket:$ 3,340.00

62c Mower: $2050.00

54" Hyd. angle blade w/ front hitch: $1415.00

Total: $18,274

Trade in: 1998 345 w/ 54" mower w/ power flo, 48" blade w/ chains: $3,274.00
346 hours

Subtotal: $15,000

Tax: $1,050.00

Total delivered: $16,050

Thanks in advance.

Best regards,

Randi

glc24 · Jan 9, 2010

Hi Randi,
Welcome to TBN

Did you by chance look on JD's website and look and their MSRP's?
Everything that you listed is actually higher priced than MSRP,and that is not right at all!!
IMO,you need to look at another dealer/dealers and forget about this guy.
I would also consider selling your 345 outright. You might get a better price.
Just my .02

Greg

Randi,I just bought a 2520 with 200CX,62D MMM,and I-Match for 18 out the door. I just got a quote on the Front Hitch plow for 1200,so you're not getting a good deal at all.

RSica · Jan 10, 2010

Thanks for the welcome glc

Points very well taken my friend. I did go over to Deere.com, and after configuration came within 80 bucks if you include a $200 destination charge on the tractor. That did't include the upgrade to the 53" bucket but included independent lift and attachment kit for the mower which isn't included in the mower cost, as well as the diverter valve kit etc.

Point is, it's been apparent there is no discount going on here at all. Just the trade in value knocking it down.

I only have one other Deere dealer closeby, the rest are 100+ miles away.
I'll give them a try and report back.

I've been browsing dealers on the net, Mutton Equip.(Indiana) has a 2010 2305 w/ 200CX and mower advertised at $13,399. My fear is because there are only 2 dealers in this area that are about 40 miles apart,that they may not feel the need to discount as much(or at all) as in other areas of the country where there may be more competition. We'll see...

Any other opinions and feedback are warmly welcomed here.

Best regards,

Randi

bp fick · Jan 10, 2010

Can't believe your old tractor would be difficult to craigslist. Selling one's stuff outright is almost always the better way to go. You can sell somewhere between the wholesale/trade in price and the dealer's retail price.

$500-$1000 extra bucks in your pocket wouldn't hurt you. How about some pix of your old machine?

TripleR · Jan 10, 2010

Might want to read this. This may no longer be an issue, but it was and I am still having trouble with mine. It will be going back to the dealer pretty soon; not a high priority now.

http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/john-deere-owning-operating/150274-2305-mmm-worth.html

Deadman · Jan 10, 2010

It is a BUYERS MARKET out there, so shop around and you will save huge.
Don't get hosed because your local dealer feels thats what they want to do to you.

RSica · Jan 12, 2010

Ok, heres quote # 2, no trade-in. The only minor differences are I decided to stay with a 54" deck for my property, and using loaded tires rather than the ballast box;

2305 : $10,300

200CX Loader w/ 53" bucket: $2,850
Loaded tires

54C Mower w/ attachment kit: $1600.00

54" Front Blade w/ hitch : $1298.00
+hydraulic Angle

Total out the door: $16,048

If I can sell the 345 outfit on Craigslist for $3500, I'd be down to $12,550
on the purchase. This dealer is in a neighboring state so there is no tax.

I've got another quote coming in from a dealer my Mom worked for for 20 years(where the 345 came from, along with a 175 I still own) They offered me 0% for 60 months. I'll have tax on that quote which will be another grand at least. I'll be back later

Randi

In checking the discount, only looks like about 6.5% off MSRP.

Baetke · Jan 12, 2010

Got a straight 15% off msrp on a 2520, 1154 snowblower and curtis soft side cab just before new years. 0% for 36 months. I'm happy.

davkir · Jan 12, 2010

RSica said:
Ok, heres quote # 2, no trade-in. The only minor differences are I decided to stay with a 54" deck for my property, and using loaded tires rather than the ballast box;

If you are planning on using the full capacity of loader, I think you will need a ballast box or other heavy rear implement.

Hoosier Farmboy · Jan 12, 2010

I can't really comment on anything except the 200CX with 53" bucket. Here are the specs for the tractor that I ordered last week:

2010 2320 with R4 tires
iMatch Quick Hitch
Forward Lighting Kit
Brush Guard
$12,170.00

62D MMM with Independent Lift Kit
$2,450.00

JD 655 Commercial Tiller
$2,300.00

200CX Loader with 53" bucket and Hood Guard
$2,821.00

Frontier Middlebuster
$259.00

Total: $20,000.00 + $1,400.00 tax = $21,400.00

It would seem that the loader/bucket price is a little high.

glc24 · Jan 12, 2010

It would seem that the loader/bucket price is a little high.

MSRP is 2,910.00,so it could be better,or it could be alot worse too

RSica · Jan 15, 2010

Hi again guys,

I got quote # 3 from yet another dealer, as mentioned in an earlier post, one that my Mom worked at for 20 years. I won't break it down this time, but bottomline was $16,500 plus tax.

Looks like I'm not going to get a decent discount here in easternmost New York State. The dealers for the most part are all in the same ballpark. My first quote, I believe if without trade in would be close to this last quote.

I guess it depends on what section of the country you are in.

I noticed Mutton Equip. in Indiana advertising a 2010 2305 with FEL and 62" mower for $13,399. Add a 54" quick hitch angle blade even at MSRP it still is only 14,697. Even having it shipped 700 miles it would seem to be cheaper.

Anyways, I'll keep plugging with quotes and reporting back

Randi

JJKJ · Jan 15, 2010

Not sure what sales tax is in NY, but since you wouldn't have to pay sales tax to the IN dealer, you could pay a good portion of the shipping with that savings.

John

glc24 · Jan 15, 2010

Not sure what sales tax is in NY, but since you wouldn't have to pay sales tax to the IN dealer, you could pay a good portion of the shipping with that savings.

Is this a fact?
I thought only if it's for farm use,it's tax exempt. Even if he didn't have to pay IN. sales tax,I'm pretty sure he would have to pay his NY sales tax. I could be full of it too

Greg

JJKJ · Jan 15, 2010

Well I can't say for sure but I thought the rules were that if you had a tractor shipped to you, you would not have to pay sales tax in the state you purchased if from. Now technically I'm sure you're supposed to somehow pay your home state sales tax. However, like all other internet purchases I don't think most people volunteer to pay those taxes. I think that unless you have to register the tractor there'd be no real way for the state to collect.

Then again, I'm not a tax expert either, just going by what I've gleened from other deals and bids.

By the way Greg don't you have tractor yet? I thought you were taking delivery this week? Not slacking on getting pics posted are ya?

dixstir · Jan 15, 2010

I just ordered a 2305 loader and mower no trade 13500. you would be better buying no trade and give yours to somebody and write it of to charity.

RSica · Jan 16, 2010

The second quote I posted in this thread was from a dealer in Mass. and I would have not had to pay tax on the purchase according to that dealer.

Good point though on on using saved tax towards shipping on a better priced machine.

Randi

CHDinCT · Jan 20, 2010

On the tax question, when you buy something from an out of state dealer and have it shipped to your home state, you do not normally pay either the sales tax of the dealer's state or your state. This is because the transaction is considered interstate commerce. States may only tax commerce taking place within their own boarders. Your home state has no authority to compel the dealer to collect sales tax and remit it to your home state so long as that dealer has no place of business in your state or even comes there to perform service on your tractor. This is called nexus, or lack of nexus.

However, in every state the buyer is suppose to declare the purchase and pay a use tax (same rate as the sales tax, just a different name). But, like was mentioned above, this is generally voluntary as your state does not have an easy way to be made aware of the purchase unless it is something that has to be registered, like a car for example.

One exception to the sales tax issue that I"m aware of is when the two states in question (the dealer's state and your home state) have an agreement to impose each other's tax on out of state sales to the other state. In this case, the state the dealer is in can impose a requirement to collect and remit the tax to the customer's state. Fun stuff

Deerfoot · Feb 23, 2010

RSica, I'm coming late to the discussion, but I can tell you that loaded tires don't have enough weight to keep the back end down on a 2305 with a 200CX loader on the front. I have a 48" box blade and 5 suitcase weights hanging on it. With a heavy load I can still lift a rear tire. If I mount the loader before the box blade the rear of the tractor with loaded tires gets airborne without much trouble. Make sure you have your 4x4 engaged so you can still maintain some control if you want to test this yourself.