Am I legal? Tow weight question (weights listed)

[jaquetarr]

I've been reading this thread and others as well. All I am is confused.
I have a 2000 F250 4X4, crew cab, 7.3 turbo
Inside the door it says GVWR 8800#, the factory hitch says 12000#; the reciever / ball is 12000#, Max Trailer weight is 12000# and max tongue weith is 1250#

My dump trailer has electric brakes, two axles, 7000# ea. Trailer GVWR is 14000#, cargo max is 10660#.

Now the question I have is How much can I tow? 10666 as per trailer or 12000# as per truck?

My initial feeling is to go with the 5 ton max load as marked on the trailer.

I certaintly don't want to run un safely.

There are a lot of more experienced voices here; your advise will be appreciated.
Rgds,
tim

 

[Raw Dodge]

I've been reading this thread and others as well. All I am is confused.
I have a 2000 F250 4X4, crew cab, 7.3 turbo
Inside the door it says GVWR 8800#, the factory hitch says 12000#; the reciever / ball is 12000#, Max Trailer weight is 12000# and max tongue weith is 1250#

My dump trailer has electric brakes, two axles, 7000# ea. Trailer GVWR is 14000#, cargo max is 10660#.

Now the question I have is How much can I tow? 10666 as per trailer or 12000# as per truck?

My initial feeling is to go with the 5 ton max load as marked on the trailer.

I certaintly don't want to run un safely.

There are a lot of more experienced voices here; your advise will be appreciated.
Rgds,
tim

realistically,you can tow up to the 8800gvwr on the truck,and 14,000 on the trailer axles....so a total of about 24,800lbs.That is tough to do with your truck as your truck weighs close to 8000 empty,it really isnt a true 3/4 ton truck more like a 1/2 ton with a lot of pulling power,but little carrying capacity.you need to have a very light trailer tongue to stay under 8800gvwr.Ford really messed up with the f250 from 99-04,as the 4x4 diesel crew cabs are so heavy empty the trucks can be legally overloaded with 5 good sized guys in the cab,and nothing in the bed,no trailer...sad because the truck can go alot higher than 8800,its an artifically low #for that truck....9900 should be the starting point for it.

 

[jaquetarr]

The empty weight of the truck only is 6300# as weighed

 

[Duffster]

The empty weight of the truck only is 6300# as weighed

Ummmm. Are you sure about that?

Both my PSD's weight more than that and neither are CC.

 

[Diamondpilot]

Your truck should weigh about 7,500# with you in it. 6,300# is way light. I have a 2004 F-250 PSD 4x4 Extended Cab Short Bed. Its GVWR is 10,000# and weighs 7,500# with me in it. Anyway your truck should be able to handle about 1,300# of tonge weight legally. I get that using your 8,800# GVWR - 7,500# empty weight.

Now legally you can tow up to the max of the weakest link. On your truck it will probably be the tow rating. I am guessing its around 12,000#. Like said before 8,800# GVWR is very low. Not all F-250's are created equal. So what this means for you is you could tow up to the max tow rating, max tonge weight, max hitch capacity, or max trailer GVWR. If your trailer is a 14,000# unit you could only load it to 12,000# including the empty weight of the trailer not taking full advantage of the trailers capacity due to the low GVWR of your truck.

Chris

 

[jaquetarr]

Well, I guess I had a Brain fart.
Rechecked the weight ticket and it reads (empty truck) 7760#

Time muddles a lot of things
Rgds,
Tim

 

[jaquetarr]

The numbers came from the door sticker and trailer sticker
Rgds,
tim

 

[JIGBUILDER]

Can you post a specific link?

The only thing I found is this and it specifically contradicts what you are saying, that and it references RV's

#1. it says GAWR plus the hitch weight = GVWR. Which is what I said.


#2. a truck and trailer is a combined weight. The trucks GVWR plus the trailers GVWR = combined weight. Now when DOT weighs the trailer the sum of the GAWR's had better be at least equal to trailers GVWR.

 

[Diamondpilot]

Well, I guess I had a Brain fart.
Rechecked the weight ticket and it reads (empty truck) 7760#

Time muddles a lot of things
Rgds,
Tim

So in that case you will be limited to either 1,040# in the bed or on the ball. I will never understand why Ford and GM made trucks with that low of a GVWR. Its truly not a 3/4 ton because you can not carry 1,500# legally in it.

Chris

 

[JIGBUILDER]

The numbers came from the door sticker and trailer sticker
Rgds,
tim

look at the rest of the door sticker. The only place GVWR is used that I'm aware of is for a combined weight. Your F250 should have a FAWR xxxx and a 6000 lb RAWR on the door tag. The trucks rear axle will carry most if not all the trailers hitch weight. Your trucks rear unladin weight may be in the 2900 lb range which leaves approx 3100 lb payload on the axle/tires. I certainly wouldn't carry over the trucks axle/tire capacities for a couple of reasons.

Using GVWR to figure axle weights is popular but is only approx 80-85 pecent of the trucks axle/tire capacity. Some states allow uprating GVWR/ladin/tonnage/tags/etc but your still limited by the trucks axle and tire capacities.

Your truck can tow whatever rating the manufacture gives it. However many '00 era trucks are limited to 10k by the manufactures class IV hitch or what ever class the hitch is. Many folks upgrade to the heavier class V bumper hitch for bigger loads.