Start of something big.....

[wroughtn_harv]

We worked up a pretty good system on the twenty foot sheets. Two of us on the roof and two men on the manlifts catching the marks.

We laid out the marks, every three feet on two purlins so that the sheets would stay square. One man on a lift was at the wall and would catch the mark and make sure the overhang was right on. The second man on a lift was near the peak and catch his mark.

While the younger man, not I, was grabbing the next sheet off the tractor we would tape the leading edge of the previous sheet. The tape is nasty stuff that's double sided sticky ikky poo poo. We would leave the paper on the up side of the tape. Once the new sheet was located the two men on lifts would lock it down with screws.

Then the two of us on the roof would fold back the new sheet and pull the paper off the tape. I would screw the sheet down while the younger man, not I , would go get the next sheet.

It worked out good I think.

 

[wroughtn_harv]

The first thing we did was add some wings to our flying sheet dilly doo. The I beam is sixteen feet and the overhang made the other fellas nervous so we added wings.

Keep in mind these sheets are forty feet, eight inches long.

We changed our system on this side. Here we had one man on a lift at the peak catching his mark and gauging off the other sheet metal. One man operated the tractor, bringing it up for us to pull off a sheet and then backing it out of the way when we had a sheet pulled. He also taped the next sheet on the ground so we didn't have to do it on the roof.

I would start pulling a sheet and as soon as I had it up where the younger guy, not I, could grab it the two of us would pull it onto the roof. The man on the lift would catch his mark and gauge it agains the other side. He would install a screw. I would step out onto the new sheet and catch my mark and then do a screw. Then we'd pull back the sheet and remove the tape. Then we'd all start installing screws. We installed less than half the screws needed just to keep things moving.

 

[wroughtn_harv]

I always say it's much better to be lucky than good. Anyone can be good, that only takes effort. Not everyone can be lucky.

Most of the forty foot sheets went up yesterday before lunch.

Yeah, I know it was hot this week. I also know the white roof in July sun is a bugger bear when you can't wear sun glasses.

 

[EddieWalker]

Harvey,

Great pics and tip on leaving the paper on the tape. I just finished off a metal roof on a porch last week, and fought the tape on every sheet. I never thought of leaving the paper on it and pealing it off after fastening the metal down at the other edge. I'll remember this for the next time!!!!

How are you doing handling the panels? The heat was coming off of the ones that I installed that I had to use tarps and T-shirts to avoid touching the metal. There is just no way that I could walk on it, and even after installing it, I had issues putting in the ceiling fans under the metal. If I touched the metal panel, I'd burn my hand or finger.

I also enjoy seeing pics of the tools you make to get a job done. Simple and effective. I don't think I'd get it if it wasn't for the pictures of what you make. Your solutions to a problem are almost as interesting as what you create.

Thanks, great pictures.
Eddie

 

[wroughtn_harv]

Harvey,

Great pics and tip on leaving the paper on the tape. I just finished off a metal roof on a porch last week, and fought the tape on every sheet. I never thought of leaving the paper on it and pealing it off after fastening the metal down at the other edge. I'll remember this for the next time!!!!

How are you doing handling the panels? The heat was coming off of the ones that I installed that I had to use tarps and T-shirts to avoid touching the metal. There is just no way that I could walk on it, and even after installing it, I had issues putting in the ceiling fans under the metal. If I touched the metal panel, I'd burn my hand or finger.

I also enjoy seeing pics of the tools you make to get a job done. Simple and effective. I don't think I'd get it if it wasn't for the pictures of what you make. Your solutions to a problem are almost as interesting as what you create.

Thanks, great pictures.
Eddie

Thank you Eddie. We used walk boards to keep from dinging the panels with our walking the sheets up. Some of the boards are freshly milled oak planks. They were a little slick. Getting a forty foot sheet moving while on one of those was like trying to pull a car while standing on ice. More than once the pucker string almost popped.

The kid on the tractor was on a lift when we did the twenty footers. I slipped and caught myself and then asked him to hand me something like I hadn't almost went for a heckuva ride. His respone was classic, "Mr Lacey, give me a minute. I'm trying to get my heart out of my throat after seeing you do that."

I wear gloves for welding and when it's really really cold. This time of year if I'm handling pipe in the sun I'll use those cheap brown cotton gloves that last a half a day or so.

The sheets weren't that bad. Everyone else was wearing gloves. Especially when an oops dumped a bunch of DNA on some sheets because one person refuses to wear gloves, gulp.

 

[EddieWalker]

Everyone else was wearing gloves. Especially when an oops dumped a bunch of DNA on some sheets because one person refuses to wear gloves, gulp.

CLASSIC !!!

I had to read this twice to get it, but when I did, I got a good laugh out of it.

Eddie

 

[jmw101]

Eddie and Harv,
There are a lot of people on this forum that post, but I must say that I love reading both of your posts on any topic. You both have such passion for these topics that it jumps of the page when you write it down and post pictures.

Thanks.

And, Harv, you remind me of the best blankety blank blankety blank blank man I have ever worked for. He saw everything as a challenge and always looked how to maximize it. That is one **** of a lesson for everyone in our country. I'm doing my best to instill the same in my kids (now 8 and 11).

One of his favorite sayings: Three kinds of people in the world.
1. Those that make things happen.
2. Those that talk about what might happen.
3. Those that wonder what just happened.
He always said, "what kind of person do you want to be?"

Thanks for your great posts. They are inspiring from a bunch of different perspectives.

Jon

 

[Kyle_in_Tex]

What a great read Harvey. I just caught up with this thread again and still enjoy watching and reading about your endeavours.

Someone mentioned your "hootspa". I'd like to add that you are way ahead of the curve on the good end of karma.

Sometimes it's so hot outside, a teaspoon of mustard just ain't enough to cut the mustard!

You take care and tell your better half howdy from Giddings.

 

[wroughtn_harv]

Eddie and Harv,
There are a lot of people on this forum that post, but I must say that I love reading both of your posts on any topic. You both have such passion for these topics that it jumps of the page when you write it down and post pictures.

Thanks.

And, Harv, you remind me of the best blankety blank blankety blank blank man I have ever worked for. He saw everything as a challenge and always looked how to maximize it. That is one **** of a lesson for everyone in our country. I'm doing my best to instill the same in my kids (now 8 and 11).

One of his favorite sayings: Three kinds of people in the world.
1. Those that make things happen.
2. Those that talk about what might happen.
3. Those that wonder what just happened.
He always said, "what kind of person do you want to be?"

Thanks for your great posts. They are inspiring from a bunch of different perspectives.

Jon

Thanks for the kind words Jon. We have our days.

 

[wroughtn_harv]

What a great read Harvey. I just caught up with this thread again and still enjoy watching and reading about your endeavours.

Someone mentioned your "hootspa". I'd like to add that you are way ahead of the curve on the good end of karma.

Sometimes it's so hot outside, a teaspoon of mustard just ain't enough to cut the mustard!

You take care and tell your better half howdy from Giddings.

For the members out there who have doubts about the younger guys I offer one Kyle in Texas. He's ahead of the game compared to where and what we were at his age. It made me sad to read he was selling his place and moving back to the city, even if it was for the right reasons.

 

[mjncad]

Harv:

I like your sheet handling rig! Excellent and elegant solution to manipulating those awkward pieces of sheet metal.

 

[BayouMan]

OK Harv,
It has been over a month now with no progress reports. What is the latest?

Mike

 

[Kyle_in_Tex]

Harv, you been on vacation?

 

[davo727]

Anybody hear anything out of Harv lately?

 

[BayouMan]

Hey Harv,
Just wondering if you are OK? We miss not hearing about one of your projects.

Mike

 

[bgoodman]

I talked to Harvey 2 weeks ago. He's fine, just busy.

 

[wroughtn_harv]

I'm in Peoria Arizona visiting with my father for a week or so. Originally we were going to come in the truck and bring the toy hauler to the Mogollon Rim like we have done for the last couple of years.

Three hiccups in the getalong. First we have had so much rain at the project that it will take four or five days of non rain for us to get out the toy hauler without needing a crawler or big big tractor. Second, Lucy, the truck, has been ill for some time, injectors. She's at the doctors getting all eight replaced, thirty six hundred dollars. The gauge package has also went out, another four hundred dollars, about forty four hundred with tax. The last one was also weather related. My dad doesn't do cold weather good. It's been unusually cold up in the mountains this year and he really needed to get back to the valley.

The project is complete. I snapped some photos the other day before we left so I could post some finished pictures.

The project is for the storage of tractors and equipment. It was also decided that a pallet rack at the rear cantilevered out from the wall so it wouldn't limit floor space would be nice for holding cut lumber for air drying.

After the floor is sealed most of the equipment in the photo will spend most of their time inside out of the weather.

 

[jayste]

Harvey, good to hear from you! Since folks have hinted that you might possibly still be up right and taking nourishment we didn't worry too much! Sound like you've been hooked up short for a while.

OUCH! On those truck repairs. A good one is still worth putting the money into though. Looking forward to those pics when you make it back in.

Jay

 

[wroughtn_harv]

The big thing for me was designing, fabricating, installing, and finishing out the front with as much open access as possible. Roll up doors would have worked fine. But since the doors will only be opened on occasion (I can see some doors going six months or more without being opened) I figured sliding doors would be less expensive to do and definately more likely to be trouble free over time.

 

[wroughtn_harv]

The pallet rack was a challenge. I mentioned how kewel it would be to have a cantilevered rack across the back where the lumber he's cutting could be allowed to air dry and not take up more space. He told me to do it.