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buckeyefarmer

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Thinking about getting a travel trailor of some kind for camping. My wife has always been against getting one, want's to tent camp, but after an attempt at camping this weekend in the middle of a two day rainstorm, and visiting a friend in their new travel trailor, she is starting to reconsider. any good advice for a first time buyer? I don't want to trade up in a couple yrs. any recommended models? Any word on which companies are going belly up in this recession, I heard several are really hurting. We know we want one with a seperate bed area for the kids, like a bunk bed.
 
/ travel trailors #2  
I'm on my second trailer. Neither has been new or expensive. IMHO the biggest advantage to having a camp trailer is that you come home from work on Friday, you back up to the trailer, and you pull out and go camping. There's no pack this, pack that, put it all in the truck, cover it with a tarp, etc.

The same thing goes for when you arrive. After we find our spot, the Mrs. starts making dinner while I drop the jacks and level her up. 30 minutes after we arrive at the camp site we're eating dinner.

Bigger is not always better. Bigger trailers look all nice on the dealer's lot, but you're quite limited in where you can go and what you can do. It's not just about purchase price. I'd recommend getting the smallest thing you think you can be comfortable in.

Another recommendation is to know what you are going to do with it before you go to buy. Are you hauling it long distances? Staying mostly in RV parks? Do you want to camp off the beaten path? My second trailer is just as functional without hookups as it is with them. I really like that because I camp in undeveloped sites as much as I can. The previous trailer had a lot of stuff on 120 volt circuits (porch lite, oven light, etc.)

What works for me may not be what works best for you. It's so dependent on your lifestyle.
 
/ travel trailors #3  
No matter what you buy try on the bathroom for size.

I'm not kidding my wife is left handed and it just doesn't work for her.

We have hybrid center trailer and 2 fold out beds at each end.

I here about the bathroom every day we are camping but it wasn't like I bought it with out her input.

tom
 
/ travel trailors #4  
Too old to tent camp anymore.

The mistake I made on my first trailer was buying too much trailer (weight) for the truck I had at the time. I ended up having to move up to a larger truck. We did use it quite a bit when the kids were still at home. Sold it after they were grown.

A few years ago, now that we have grandkids we started to look for one again. Not wanting to make same mistake we went with a smaller model. We bought new at about 12K$ not wanting a problem unit. It has held up good. We like to keep it packed and ready to roll.

While we will go months without using the trailer for now it still meets our needs. I would suggest going to one of the RV shows with different dealers so all options are available. Pay attention to things like bathroom size, head room, storage, weight etc.
 
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My advice would be to scrutinize the heck out of the "good" deals you will find and get familiar with appliance replacement (ac/heat) cost so you can add that in on the ones that say "every thing works but the heater". also keep a good eye out for water damage, always check the top and sides.

A good wall tent will cost you $1000 with the pole kit, then add for optional wood stove and pipe, camping utensils.

I love tent camping , it has a certain "nostalgia" but as I get older, a warm toilet seat and a shower sure seem worth more.
 
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No matter what you buy try on the bathroom for size.

I'm not kidding my wife is left handed and it just doesn't work for her.

We have hybrid center trailer and 2 fold out beds at each end.

I here about the bathroom every day we are camping but it wasn't like I bought it with out her input.

tom


What Tom said times ten!!!

Before we bought our first fifthwheel we lived in a neighbor's motorhome for a couple of months. It was an older one that had the shower, toilet, and sink in a tiny space. To take a shower you could sit on the toilet or stand between the toilet and sink. We then found a trailer that had the bathroom spanning the entire width of the unit, toilet and sink on one side, shower on the other, with a few feet of carpet between.

The fifthwheel we now have has a somewhat smaller bathroom but by closinig the doors at both ends, it opens it up almost as big.

I went beer-hunting with a friend a couple of weeks ago. He'd bought a 35' three-slideout fifthwheel to live in while his house was under construction. When the house was done, he put it on a consignment lot for a couple of years with no success in selling it, so now is using it for camping and hunting. This trailer is HUGE!!! And yet it has the SMALLEST toilet room I've ever seen. Like sitting in a closet, and if you are very tall your knees would hit the wall. Don't EVEN think of reading a magazine. Well, you could if you pinned it to the wall.

Another thing we now insist on is the freestanding dinette and chairs, rather than the two benches with a table between. You can do more with the table/chairs, including taking them outside for meals or games. Of course, the bench/table CAN be made into another bed if you need the sleeping space.

Phil
 
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I'm a long time camper, well make that an RV'er. I have a 32 foot triple slide fifth wheel rv that I love. I take several 2-3 week vacations per year, and also live in it for 4-5 weeks on a job 3 times a year, so I feel I'm a pretty good person to answer any rv questions. Except what you should buy. There are 100's of different rv's for 100's of different needs. No-one but you know what you need, but I'll do like Brutus and" take a stab at it".
First thing is what is your tow vehicle? then what is it to be used for, then how long at a time. One major mistake a lot of folks make is to buy more than they can pull comfortably. If you are worried about the next hill or the next stop it makes for a bad trip. Then if it's to be used for a rare weekend trip smaller is better, but if it's a temperary home the bigger the better. Ask these questions for us and we can help a little, Later, Nat
 
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I think what iplayfarmer said it the best- HOW are you going to use it ? I currently have a 22'er and it fits our needs. I got it aftetr tenting for years and last one was miserable with rain and hard ground. I grew up spoiled with my folks who had a 12 footer for 10 years then moved up to 35 footer. I dont use the bathrooms as the places I go to have thier own bathrooms. I can use toilet if needed but don't. I love travel trailer for use of setting up, carrying things and no need to pack or unpack last minute! Love the gas fridge when going to non-electic sites.
 
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thanks for the suggestions so far. For pulling, I have a 2500HD with the 6.0l gas engine.
I already know I don't want too big. decent bathroom size is a must, no toilet in the shower.
 
/ travel trailors #10  
Given you have a 370 ft lb torque engine in your tow vehicle,Id keep the trailer under 8000lbs esp 5th wheels since they drag more with there height.Your truck itself is plenty capable of a good sized trailer,youve got a pretty stout tow truck,engine aside,IMO. I have a 2002 sunnybrook 3310,its about 8500 lbs ready for the road,Id buy it again in a heartbeat,great camper. I tow with either my 01 2500HD 8.1L/Allison or my Dodge/Cummins.You really want 420+ft lb of torque to pull something like this ,although you dont NEED it,it makes it much easier.
Campings fun and addictive,although the last few years fees have risen sharply,along with fuel putting a damper on it for us....
 
/ travel trailors #11  
My wife's deciding factor to go from tent to trailer was our first baby, really nice to warm up the bottle in a microwave. We first bought a used 18' hybrid towed with a yukon and then moved to a 26' no slide TT towed with the dually. Both purchases were from the FIL so we bought at trade-in value and I know they were stored in my barn.

I would like a Fifth wheel, maybe when our third child is out of the pack and play.
 
/ travel trailors #12  
Thinking about getting a travel trailor of some kind for camping. My wife has always been against getting one, want's to tent camp, but after an attempt at camping this weekend in the middle of a two day rainstorm, and visiting a friend in their new travel trailor, she is starting to reconsider. any good advice for a first time buyer? I don't want to trade up in a couple yrs. any recommended models? Any word on which companies are going belly up in this recession, I heard several are really hurting. We know we want one with a seperate bed area for the kids, like a bunk bed.

If you are going to stay close to home almost anything will do. If you want to travel and go out west, through the mountains and see the country a 5th wheel is the only way to go. When the winds come out of the south west in Wyoming you won't want to be there with a standard trailer. It will make for a very long day. Been there done that.
 
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Mom & Dad have had a camper since '84. First one they had was all livng/sleeping space together. It was a 24 footer. Camper always seemed cluttered or was a pain to make the beds each day/night. They traded it for a bunk house. Queen bed in the front, jack knife sofa, table, and then bunks in the back. It is a 30 much nicer to camp when you aren't have to make beds all of the time. Neither camper had slides.

A couple of years ago Monica and I bought my Aunt's old 28' camper - no slide. Bed in the rear, table, and couch in the front. Same problem as Mom & Dad's first one. Also once the 3rd child came along and her stuff, it was pretty crowded. We completely remodeled this camper, but unfortunately, even though I replaced the floor, the structure itself was still weak. Should've passed on this camper, but I thought I knew it because it was my Aunt's and I didn't look it over close enough. So like has been mentioned before, check the ceiling, walls, & FLOOR.

So finally in June we started looking pretty seriously for campers. Wife insisted she didn't want to spend more than $10k. Problem was she wanted "everything" and didn't want a little camper. We looked at a bunch of campers and I read on a lot of camper forums and talked to several people. For the price points, it is hard to beat a Jayco. They have several different quality/price points. We ended up with a 2009 Jayco JayFlight G2 32BHDS. Jayco 2010 We were able to negotiate a pretty good price because we were at the end of the model year, but more than double of our original $10k "budget". One of the things we liked about it was a 2 year warranty vs. the typical 1. They also had in our opinion a "nicer" overall appearance and seemed to be made just a touch better. Also included a few niceties that others charge extra for including a power awning (still not 100% sold on that one though). We've so far used it 1 weekend and took 1 9 day trip with it. We are also going to use it for a weekend again in a couple of weeks. Now with that being said, we bought too much trailer for our tow vehicle. This trailer is 8,000 empty. Probably close to 9,500 or more loaded. I'm towing it with a '99 Chevy Silverado 1500 ECSB 4x4 w/ 5.3 & 3.73 gears. I won't win any races, but on the 9 day trip we took the camper to Lake Cumberland (about 250 miles each way) w/o any issues. I have changed the springs on the truck to a set of springs off a 2500. That helped a lot, I also updated my weight distribution system. I did have a 7500/750 set and updated it to a 12,000/1,200 set. Did that before I ever left the dealer's lot because the 750s had too much "arch" in them and I knew they weren't heavy duty enough for the load. When we upgrade the truck in a year or 2, we will probably make the leap to a 3500 SRW (Hopefully Duraxmax/Allison combo) as if we were to haul any firewood or anything at all in the bed, I could still be overloading a 2500 quite easily.

BTW, the slides and the rear bedroom made a world of difference. Just seems like so much more room inside. Nice for those days when you are stuck inside because of the rain. We also bumped our AC from the typical 13.5 BTU unit to a 15k for $143. If it gets hot, it does a better job at keeping up. Was nice at the Lake when the humidity was really high.

Someone else mentioned the bathroom. Ah yes, that is important. We ruled a few out because of the size of the bathroom. Ours is actually a pretty good sized bathroom as it has a door to the outside. That makes it really nice at the honey station. Also make sure it is a straight shot to the tank from the toilet. This can be an issue since you aren't using much water to flush.

Depending on how you are going to use it, may want to look for heated/enclosed underbellies. Our Jayco has it, but really isn't considered a 4-seasons camper. More of 3 season. Some like Artic Fox are more considered for 4 season camping.
 
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Oh come on Buckeyefarmer! You don't want to do the old Army S--t, shower and shave all at the same time?:D Stool/shower combo would get it done!:D

No, really all good forms of input here. I've had two, a 1975 class C MH and a horse trailer with living quarters (living quarters was an overstatement!) and they both were an experience. The motorhome was "nastalgic" shag carpet, Avacado green appliances, "groovey" interior.....leaking air conditioner, bad gas valve on water heater, .....I think you get my drift.:D
Basically, the best two days of owning it were the day I bought it and the day I sold it!:D

Horse trailer: Needed more room and yes had the "shower/stool combo"= better than 'nuttin! Needed more room even for the two of us and if the grand chillin's came along I got serious closterphobia!

Anyway, I think you're smart in wanting to buy what you want and need, in the first place. I'd say whatever fits your needs, budget, hauling capabilities, application (rough backwoods or RV grounds), 12V or 110, generator or not, drive it or pull it, grandkids or not, bigger is definately not always better, etc....


AND LAST BUT NOT LEAST, LIKE OTHERS HAVE SAID, TAKE THE LITTLE LADY ALONG AND GET HER WHAT SHE WANTS BECAUSE "IF MAMA AIN'T HAPPY, NOBODY'S HAPPY"!!:eek::D:D

Jay
 
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I have looked (online) at the Jayco's. That's the brand our friends have. What do the letters in the model numbers mean? BHDS, I assume the S is for slider, but then I saw one that didn't have the slide. RK seems to be a rear kitchen area.
I would want to take it west. We have been west the last 3 yrs, would like to drive and camp instead of all the hotels, so appreciate the wind comments. Yesterday I saw a bunch of 5th wheels returning from weekend camping, and it was really windy, so I wondered how they pulled in the wind.
My wifes latest comments is keep it small, like a hybrid popup of some sort. I haven't really looked at them yet.
I don't really want one that is so big I need to upgrade my truck, although I already wish I had gotten the diesel :)
 
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i think you should also look at the water/wast water capacity. you don't want to get a trailer that you can only stay out a day and a half and go dump or fill up with potable water. i would get one with largest tanks possible.

also try out the beds. not just the master bed, try the bunk beds or what ever other beds there might be. i stayed in a camper last year where i could not lay strait. i had to curl up because my head and feet touched walls.(i'm 6'2")

good luck and enjoy the outdoors
brian
 
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I have looked (online) at the Jayco's. That's the brand our friends have. What do the letters in the model numbers mean? BHDS, I assume the S is for slider, but then I saw one that didn't have the slide. RK seems to be a rear kitchen area.
I would want to take it west. We have been west the last 3 yrs, would like to drive and camp instead of all the hotels, so appreciate the wind comments. Yesterday I saw a bunch of 5th wheels returning from weekend camping, and it was really windy, so I wondered how they pulled in the wind.
My wifes latest comments is keep it small, like a hybrid popup of some sort. I haven't really looked at them yet.
I don't really want one that is so big I need to upgrade my truck, although I already wish I had gotten the diesel :)

BHDS - Bunk House Dual Slide.

RB - Rear Bath

RK - Rear Kitchen

FK - Front Kitchen

RL - Rear Living

FL - Front Living

That is all I can think of right now.
 
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i think you should also look at the water/wast water capacity. you don't want to get a trailer that you can only stay out a day and a half and go dump or fill up with potable water. i would get one with largest tanks possible.

also try out the beds. not just the master bed, try the bunk beds or what ever other beds there might be. i stayed in a camper last year where i could not lay strait. i had to curl up because my head and feet touched walls.(i'm 6'2")

good luck and enjoy the outdoors
brian

Brian brings up some good points,I didnt know much when i bought my TT,but if you plan on doing any dry camping the tanks are very important! It turns out by luck that my sunnybrook is well equipped for boondocking,with 50 gallons fresh water,its 50 gal back tank and twin 34 gal grey tanks.You dont realize how much water you use until you have ot pump it,and store it,and handle it all.......I wouldnt even consider a trailer without 50 gal frsh/50 gal of grey water unless you are never leaving an rv park w full hookup.
 
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My advice is to go for quality over quantity...scrutinize throughly...even the minor details...trailers that go for $1000 per foot (new) are mostly junk made with lousy materials and are slapped together.
 

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