Tires filled tires.....gooooood

[mrjohnnysue]

How about adding some regular anti-freeze solution??? Is this a no-no??

Seems like a small amount would head off freezing and as I remember it is supposed to inhibit rust and corosion. (at least in your cooling system)

It doesn't seem like the small amount of weight that Rimgard adds would make that much of a difference....

One way (weigh) or another......I gotta get'em filled....I've had that terrible feeling twice now when one of the rear wheels gets up off of the ground...many thoughts in your head in that few seconds....

thanks...

 

[phyxer]

I was wondering if you have Alzheimer's disease as you have told this same story so many times?

Ummmmmmm, isn't that a little harsh??????

Troy

 

[Pirwin21]

It seems apparent from reading all the posts in this thread that filling your tires is the way to go when traction is concerned. However, no one has really addressed the issue of what effect the extra weight would have for someone who is using their tractor for mowing purposes. I have 28 acres, with about 20 of that being field which I would like to mow or at least brush hog several times a year. I am looking at buying a 3400 hydro with R4's . Would filling the tires add too much weight for mowing or do you think it would be alright, so long as it is dry out?

 

[dodge man]

I just had mine filled and I was worried about the issue with mowing also. If all I did was mow, I wouldn't get them filled, but its worth it for end loader work. It does seem to rut just a little bit more, but its hard for me to tell because we have had so much rain. On my BX it only added a little bit of weight also. You are most likely only increasing the weight of your tractor by 5-8%, which is a guess on my part. For brush hogging, I wouldn't worry about the extra weight at all. Another thing I'm looking at is when I finish mow, I will spin the rear tires when going up a hill when turning and tear up the yard a little. I think this is reduced with the rear tires filled.

 

[tydp]

It seems apparent from reading all the posts in this thread that filling your tires is the way to go when traction is concerned. However, no one has really addressed the issue of what effect the extra weight would have for someone who is using their tractor for mowing purposes. I have 28 acres, with about 20 of that being field which I would like to mow or at least brush hog several times a year. I am looking at buying a 3400 hydro with R4's . Would filling the tires add too much weight for mowing or do you think it would be alright, so long as it is dry out?

I think that generally, they are talking about mowing a lawn, more weight making more, deeper ruts. It would be fine for pasture mowing.

 

[FullBucket]

I don't have filled tires yet and am familiar with that good ol' puckered feeling. Adds excitement to any chore doesn't it? I leave a rear mount implement on all the time just to keep the "excitement" to manageable levels and from what I've read here in other posts I don't think I have very steep slopes compared to others. Now and then I still manage to get a rear wheel to lift enough to maintain my full attention when doing loader work .

Is the center of balance higher, or wheelbase narrower in proportion in the BX series than other tractors? I have a ballast box that has gone unused to date. I didn't think it would be that much heavier than my box blade or even as heavy as my mower. I remember posts about people building their own ballasts and thought a few of them might chime in here if they feel this has things under control. I don't really like the idea of filling tires. I am considering adding some weight to my box blade. Anyone else done this?

 

[drtwpmd]

good idea - test your machine with water and if you like it, upgrade to something with anti-freezing.
tires spinning with rimgaurd!!!! now, now - don't be running around and scaring rimguard owners . knock on wood, hasn't happened to me yet.

Regarding using inner tubes with the RimGuard, my dealer on a L4740 purchased last month stated they always place a tube in the tire before loading. I thought it was unnecessary since RimGuard is a corrosion protectant, but maybe it was due to "rim-spin". Hadn't thought about that, and guess I could have inquired more as to their reasoning. But figure the more layers between moisture and unprotected metal is always a good thing.

 

[kthompson]

If you need to drain them, the tire shop got jacked my tire up enough to get load off, turned valve stem to lowest point and removed it. When it stop they filled it with air and the air pushed the water out at least down to the valve stem.

Filled tires with tubes and a leak is best to call tire shop to your tractor. Ask for price, as little more (here like $30) it is not worth the work with hundreds of pounds to take the tire to them compared to their repairing it on the tractor. We don't have a major freeze issue here but most here use a weak antifreeze solution. Don't they make an antifreeze that will not kill animals? BTW, not a hard job to fill your own tires with water and not that bad to add such as antifreeze either. They make a simple tool for adding the water using your water pressure (let air out of tire first) jack up tire and you can tell the water level often as they fill either by the tire sweating, or bumping the tire or if must, get valve open and rotate tire. I have used a funnel and cut off water hose to poor antifreeze into tires first or you can used a pressure air tank to do the job. Fill with antifreeze and get the outlet as low point and it will push the antifreeze out.

Most say if pulling, fill tires, if not don't. don't have a fel would would say it would give it stability.

 

[SCDolphin]

I worried about filling my tires, all the what ifs about compaction and flats. I finally filled mine and added 2 wheel weights per side.....room for another set. Never had a problem and happy with filled tires.

 

[mark2610d]

If you don't use your tractor for mowing filled tires are the stuff. I had filled tires and drained mine because they consumed to much hp when mowing with my 6ft woods pdr rear finish mower. The filled tires cost me a good 3-4 hp when mowing at 5mph. I'm now working on a 1600 lb weight box for the 3pt hitch, that way I can remove it when mowing.

 

[xlr82v2]

Regarding using inner tubes with the RimGuard, my dealer on a L4740 purchased last month stated they always place a tube in the tire before loading. I thought it was unnecessary since RimGuard is a corrosion protectant, but maybe it was due to "rim-spin". Hadn't thought about that, and guess I could have inquired more as to their reasoning. But figure the more layers between moisture and unprotected metal is always a good thing.

Likely it's for "insurance", especially with R-4 tires.

When we loaded my Dad's R-4 tires a few weeks ago, at first we were not going to put tubes in... but as soon as we let the air out of the tires, the beads broke on their own. Sure would make a mess to have that happen when the tire was 1/2 full or more... as the mechanic were we got the RimGuard from attested to... said the same thing happened to him once... and from now on he will only load tires with tubes.

 

[SPYDERLK]

You can try it with water to give you an idea about how they feel filled. Then if you like you can get rimguard in the fall for the year round protection and an xtra 70# or so.

Problem I have heard of with rimguard w/o tubes is lubrication of the bead and rim spinning in the tire.
larry

good idea - test your machine with water and if you like it, upgrade to something with anti-freezing.
tires spinning with rimgaurd!!!! now, now - don't be running around and scaring rimguard owners . knock on wood, hasn't happened to me yet.

Found it
http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/owning-operating/80954-filled-tire-problem.html

 

[Henro]

Hi,

I don't get here too often these days (should say years...).

When I got my BX2200 I had the front tires foam filled. I did not weigh them, but walked into the shop with one in each hand, and there was no way I was going to carry them out to my van except one at a time when I picked them up.

At that time I filled the rears with windshield washer fluid using a little drill-powered pump. After about 4 years I got my first rear puncture (ag tires) a couple weeks ago. I decided that I would not deal with anymore punctures with liquid filled tires, and drained the WW fluid and took the rear tires to the shop and had them foam filled.

They had a sample of foam at the tire shop, that they called zero pressure foam, as it was formed in a cup and set up under no pressure. It had the consistency of something like a dense jello or angle food cake. Pretty dense naturally. But still soft and springy.

When they fill the tires at this shop they check the pressure rating and pressurize the foam to about 10 percent less than the tire.s rated pressure.

The tires have flex and seem sort of similar to the way they felt when liquid filled. Maybe a bit stiffer, but they do flex when I push them with my foot.

I paid $111 each per tire, plus sales tax on top of that for the foam filling.

I checked the weight of the rear tires on a bathroom scale and they came in at 181 lbs each.

Hope I don't get a puncture in the rear tires on my B2910 which are liquid filled. My guess is the tires on that tractor would cost $300 to have foam filled, but that is only a guess...

All in all I am happy with the foam filled tires on the bx and should have done it in the beginning...but only feel that way since I got a puncture!

Just another data point for those interested...

 

[tommyz270]

Ok, so what do you guys think about filled versus wheel weights?

Weights can be added or taken off... but I don't think they can get as heavy as the filled, right??

Any other comments?

 

[TripleR]

Ok, so what do you guys think about filled versus wheel weights?

Weights can be added or taken off... but I don't think they can get as heavy as the filled, right??

Any other comments?

According to my dealer, the weights I had put on my new BX2660 are a little heavier than filled tires. It may depend on the size of your tractor and intended use. We have used filled tires and weights on our farm tractors.

 

[tommyz270]

i'm going to soon buy a 2920 and looking at putting weights on it from day one....