Modify Bottom Plow for SCUT?

[jimmer2880]

Please pardon my ignorance on plowing, etc. I have inherited this plow. however, it does not fit my SCUT (18 hp 4x4 Kubota). I believe the kubota will pull it, but the plow is too tall.

I do a fair amount of welding (although, I'm not pro).

My problem is, I'm not sure if I want to go through the pain of modifying this plow to fit my tractor, or try to sell it and buy one that fits. Part of my problem, is that I'm not sure just how many used bottom plows are available in my area for SCUTS.

what are your thoughts? Here is a pic (I hope I can get the thumbnail thing to work).

 

[wawajake]

It looks like it is basically a "middle buster"

I bought a middle buster plow last year from TSC for $75 .
it is a grey one "chinese" but it does the trick welds looked okay. it fit the 3 point hitch pins no problem on my BX2660


you might have a lot of fiddly work to make yours fit the 3 point hitch, and it may be too big in plow section and need cutting and welding there too. but if your time is free , maybe would work.

jake

 

[jimmer2880]

Thanks for the reply. I'm not plow expert, but I don't believe it's a middle buster. Here is another pic - sorry about the first one, it didn't show everything as good as it should have.

 

[nessmuk53]

Do you know what size it actually is? I would think you want nothing larger than a single bottom 12". I have a BX1500 and a 12" plow made by Specialty Products. I can lift it clear with no problem. I figure you will need to sell it and get a smaller one if it is any larger than a 12.

 

[jimmer2880]

Do you know what size it actually is? I would think you want nothing larger than a single bottom 12". I have a BX1500 and a 12" plow made by Specialty Products. I can lift it clear with no problem. I figure you will need to sell it and get a smaller one if it is any larger than a 12.

Time for next dumb question.... how do I measure it to tell how big it is?

 

[hdbikercouple]

that is a mold board plow. you measure how wide a cut it takes and then it should plow 1/2 of that deep. so 12 wide should go 6 deep. my bx2200 pulls a 12. but that depends on the ground and your traction. check past post on this subject as it was explained in great detail thanks al

 

[nessmuk53]

Right off I can't remember. Believe you measure the point length. As mentioned there are some good threads here about it all. I am betting it is bigger than a 12" plow.

 

[hdbikercouple]

i will try to explain, the bottom of the plow that is resting on the skid. one part goes straight back that is point one. the other is the bottom piece on the curved part, part two. go to the back of the plow and measure straight accross,(same axiels as the two pins are for the three point hitch) at the widest distance on the bottom of part one and two. that is how wide the farrow will be when plowing.

 

[jimmer2880]

Great - thanks. I'll have to go out tomorrow to measure.

Any idea how much I could get for it? I see that new plows for SCUTS are around $500.00 in my area

thanks again

 

[nessmuk53]

I found a 12" Brinley in Frederick for $275 on a well known online ad site. If yours is a 14 (it looks in good shape) I figure a bit more than that. Just a guess though.

 

[nessmuk53]

I actually was given the one I have by my wifes grandfather. He pulled it with his old 15hp Yanmar. So that ad I found is all I can judge by.

 

[jimmer2880]

Excellent - thanks!

 

[NH-Rob]

that looks just like the plow I have. Mine has the same problem. I use it on a kubota b7510 and can only lift it an inch or so off the ground. I can pull it without much trouble but would love to find a way to lift it higher. I payed $200 for it new. I added a home made coulter to it and used it to dig a ditch for a water line to the garden. I rolled the grass back in the ditch and by the end of summer could not tell where I had done it.
Robbie

 

[jimmer2880]

I still didn't take a measuring stick to it. But, I believe it may be a 16". It's made by international machinery out of Ohio (I think)

We decided to start watching auctions to find something decent that will fit. The plow in Frederick just didn't look that great.

 

[jimmer2880]

that looks just like the plow I have. Mine has the same problem. I use it on a kubota b7510 and can only lift it an inch or so off the ground. I can pull it without much trouble but would love to find a way to lift it higher. I payed $200 for it new. I added a home made coulter to it and used it to dig a ditch for a water line to the garden. I rolled the grass back in the ditch and by the end of summer could not tell where I had done it.
Robbie

Do you have a pic of this home made coulter? I may want to add that to my next plow. Sound neat, being able to just lay the sod back.

 

[NH-Rob]

its on a pallet burried in the snow, but if I get a chance I will dig it out and get a shot of it. I need to do some more work to get it to work great but it did the job.
Rob

 

[srjones]

Please pardon my ignorance on plowing, etc. I have inherited this plow. however, it does not fit my SCUT (18 hp 4x4 Kubota). I believe the kubota will pull it, but the plow is too tall.

I do a fair amount of welding (although, I'm not pro).

My problem is, I'm not sure if I want to go through the pain of modifying this plow to fit my tractor, or try to sell it and buy one that fits. Part of my problem, is that I'm not sure just how many used bottom plows are available in my area for SCUTS.

what are your thoughts? Here is a pic (I hope I can get the thumbnail thing to work).

Are you saying it's too tall to plow or too tall to transport out to the field without ripping things up here and there?

For transporting, you could shorten the toplink as short as it will go. Also, you might have another set of pins on you 3PH that will result in a slightly higher lift.

No cutting or welding yet, but I've got some ideas on how you might accomplish that if needed.

-srj

 

[jimmer2880]

its on a pallet burried in the snow, but if I get a chance I will dig it out and get a shot of it. I need to do some more work to get it to work great but it did the job.
Rob

no hurry - I doubt it will be any time soon before I find a plow that fits.

 

[jimmer2880]

Are you saying it's too tall to plow or too tall to transport out to the field without ripping things up here and there?

For transporting, you could shorten the toplink as short as it will go. Also, you might have another set of pins on you 3PH that will result in a slightly higher lift.

No cutting or welding yet, but I've got some ideas on how you might accomplish that if needed.

-srj

Yes, it's too tall (by ~6 inches ). My top link is already as short as it goes.

I don't think it would take long to modify it (shorten the height) to make it fit. However, it is on the large side. My previous tractor (a 21hp Massey 4x4) which, was about twice the physical size as my 18 horse HST Kubota had a workout pulling it at full depth.

I'm still not 100% against modification. However, I don't see it in the near future.

But - please give me your ideas on modifications... I may just change my mind

 

[jimmer2880]

update - I modified the plow this weekend. Overall, it only took me about 1.5 hours. Had to cut the bottom bolt bolt off, drill the upper bolt hold larger and drill a new bolt hole for the "shear pin". also, had to cut about 3" off of the front angle (Is that where a cultivator would go?).

I am glad I watched a movie online the other week on how to properly setup a plow for my tractor. That allowed me to be sure it would fit mine when properly setup.

My little 18hp HST pulled that plow like nothing. I wasn't actually plowing for crops, rather, I had to move a bunch of undisturbed dirt (clay) from 1 place to another. My little tractor needed the dirt to be busted up first.

The plow worked like a champ.

Thanks everyone for your help.