Surveyor woes- any advice???

[Flatheadyoungin]

no, the corners i'm satisfied with......this is a large slanted square.......each side is approximately 1600ft.......when i stand on the line, i cannot see the corner markers and i want some pins on the line......this being the case, for example, i don't know if certain trees are mine......or if i were to put in a fence, i don't know where it should go....

I don't quite understand what you are having done. The property has been surveyed by a licensed surveyor recently and I would assume a stamped plat filed with the county. Plats here must note what the corner markers are, "11/2 galvanized pipe, 3/4" rebar, ect." The surveyor's magnetic spikes, pins, ribbons and wooden stakes are in place. Sounds like the corners are already marked.

Am I missing something or are you paying $1100 to have him drive some other sort of spike? I don't know why you would do that with the survey already done. If you are worried the existing marker will not last go drive some rebar 3' into the ground.

MarkV

 

[MarkV]

Sorry, I misunderstood. Here we would call that line marking which is normally done only if you are putting up fencing. A good compass will get you with in a foot or so as long as the corners are marked. Foresters and loggers are real good with a compass. Even a decent hand held GPS unit will get you with in a few feet.

MarkV

 

[riptides]

Everytime I see or hear the word survey, I cringe.

At the bottom line the old time land plots had natural markers that are still in some county books. Add free deals, and land swaps. Then add modern technology like GPS and what not.... Yep... don't forget the microfische at the court house. Better read all those old deeds.....

Got a lawyer? What I just described was interpreted four differnt ways by 4 different surveyors.

All I wanted was a boundary marker..... by a 150+ year old Stone pilllar.

 

[Pirate]

I have a long line that is a ridge in the middle and valley on the other two ends. You can't see the markers at all. It is the middle of the line that is not accurate. I want to mark it. Are ya'll saying I can take my GPS and go to the corner marker and then use that to find the exact line in the middle (on the ridge)? I thought GPS was accurate +/- 15 feet?

Edit: Never mind. I found my answer, and it isn't GPS.

 

[J_J]

I have a long line that is a ridge in the middle and valley on the other two ends. You can't see the markers at all. It is the middle of the line that is not accurate. I want to mark it. Are ya'll saying I can take my GPS and go to the corner marker and then use that to find the exact line in the middle (on the ridge)? I thought GPS was accurate +/- 15 feet?

Edit: Never mind. I found my answer, and it isn't GPS.

It is the surveyors high dollar GPS that is accurate to 5 mm. As long as your home owner/auto GPS can see 3 or 4 satellites, you should be correct within 5 to 10 ft. That is good from driveway to drive way or campground. You can use them with a metal detector and do quite well.

 

[ultrarunner]

It is the surveyors high dollar GPS that is accurate to 5 mm. As long as your home owner/auto GPS can see 3 or 4 satellites, you should be correct within 5 to 10 ft. That is good from driveway to drive way or campground. You can use them with a metal detector and do quite well.

Surveyors were in the neighborhood for a couple of days...

They set up 3 or 4 antenna units on tripods on ridges and worked off of those to the unit in the field. Surveyor said it is very accurate.

 

[riptides]

It is only as accurate as to what was recorded previously.

How many of you check your neighbors boundary lines when you get your plats done?

 

[Egon]

On the GPS systems do the surveyors and others who require a high degree of accuracy pay extra to obtain that accuracy?

 

[J_J]

It is only as accurate as to what was recorded previously.

How many of you check your neighbors boundary lines when you get your plats done?

GPS is highly accurate, and the best you can get. It puts the old surveys to shame, and also causes problems leaving doubt .In my opinion, they need to resurvey everything with GPS as the standard. Just about everybody has doubt about the old way of surveys, , because you will probably never know the qualification of the surveyor that did the survey. I have seen and talked to many surveyors, and most seem to do the best they can. It all comes to something like this, that 300 ft should always be 300 ft, but when you see three or four pins set in a ten ft circle. You have to think who's survey is most correct, and are you and your neighbor going to court over this? I know when I sight a line, or pull a line, it is usually straight. Now when I see other surveyors survey markers and pins offset from monument to monument, it concerns me greatly. The old way could be fairly accurate, if they took all the variables in to account, like chain, steel tape, temperature, inclination, declination, magnet variation, and more. Time is money, you get the point. A lot of people assume that the fence line is a good reference, not knowing the farmer might have set his fence 4 ft inside his property, or the edge of a wooded parcel, a strand of barbed wire. On one of my property lines, I have post set in cement down the line, I have barbed wire, hanging off old rotten post, and I have survey flags down the line, pins in the ground. They are close, but which line is correct? I am really disappointed in the system, except the surveyors GPS, and that is only if they know how to calibrate it, and use it. Theoretically, you should be able to say take a parcel of land of 1000 acres, and survey the perimeter, and then break that into a hundred different size parcels, and when finished, each of the smaller parcels should equal the 1000 acres, by physical or electronic measurement of each parcel .

 

[Egon]

each of the smaller parcels should equal the 1000 acres, by physical or electronic measurement of each parcel .

You should add a disclaimer indicating a plus/minus factor that again depends on the quality and accuracy of the electronics involved.