TRUCK AND TRAILER TEAM.

[LBrown59]

I think I've finally figured out what I'd want in a truck and trailer.
18' long by 7.5' wide trailer.
Deck over bed.
Hydraulic tilt bed.
Winch
4 Wheel brakes.
Originally planed on 16' long to haul my BX23 but decided to go 18' in order to haul my longer import pick UPs.
How much trailer do I need to handle /carry my 2900 pound pick up which is 333 pounds heavier than my BX23 ?

O K so much for the trailer.
Now on to the pickup to tow it with.
Looking for used 7 to 10 years old.
Need a payload that will let me haul 2000 to 4000 pounds.
Other desired truck features :
4 Wheel drive.
Auto Trans.
Power Steering.
Air Cond.
Diesel would be nice but not a must .
What towing capacity should I be shooting for?
Thanks: L B .

How did I do so far on specking out the rig?

 

[wkpoor]

Well let me see.
2-4thousand payload narrows it down to either a 1/2 ton, 3/4 ton or 1 ton truck. The rest of the requirements include 90% of the used market.
As for the trailer and decent 7K trailer will easily haul that load. However not too many deckovers 7.5 wide. Most are 8-8.5wide and most (at least looking used) will be 12-14K not 7K. Most 7K trailers are car haulers and landscapers. They do make 7K deckovers but finding a used one might be a bit of luck. I think used trailers are a tough find that aren't all beat up. Its one of those things in life you almost gotta buy new unless your not real picky. Kinda like when I went lookin for a used panel van. I soon found out I would have to buy that new or settle for high mileage junk.

 

[dodge man]

I don't think you would need a deck over, but it would be O.K. I think of deck overs being a heavier trailer, but I could be wrong. I just bought a 7000lb car trailer, it's just right for my BX2350, and would haul your little truck easily. I like your truck choice, I would look for a used Ford, Dodge, or Chevy half ton. I good hitch and trailer brake controller and your set.

 

[shvl73]

I know Pequea has a 7k deckover. I just missed one, used for $1200 on craigslist. I didn't have time to go look at it and by the time I did, it was gone. I agree w/ wkpoor, finding a used one is hard enough, let alone a narrow one.

 

[LBrown59]

1*Well let me see.2-4thousand payload narrows it down to either a 1/2 ton, 3/4 ton or 1 ton truck.
2*However not too many deckovers 7.5 wide. Most are 8-8.5wide and most

1*Yeah But which one?
2*I don't need a deck over to gain width or payload
capacity.

 

[LBrown59]

1*I don't think you would need a deck over, but it would be O.K. 2*I think of deck overs being a heavier trailer, but I could be wrong. 3* I would look for a used Ford, Dodge, or Chevy half ton.

1*The reason I want a deck over is to get the wheels and finders out of the way so i can load and unload from the side with forks or my loader or even the Back Hoe.The reason I want to keep the width down to 7.5 feet is so say I have dirt or something to un load I can reach it with the Fel or BH from each side. 2*I look at deckovers eliminating the wheels and fenders being in the way not as a heavier trailer or being more spacious.I could be wrong too.3*Will a 1/2 ton really have the gusto to tow the loaded trailer and haul a ton or 2 in the bed at the same time.

 

[Diamondpilot]

No pickup will handle more than 3,000# in the bed for the most part unless you get a new Diesel 350/3500 series. To tow around you little tractor and trucks you can get by with a newer 1/2 ton and a 7K trailer.

Chris

 

[J_J]

1*The reason I want a deck over is to get the wheels and finders out of the way so i can load and unload from the side with forks or my loader or even the Back Hoe.The reason I want to keep the width down to 7.5 feet is so say I have dirt or something to un load I can reach it with the Fel or BH from each side. 2*I look at deckovers eliminating the wheels and fenders being in the way not as a heavier trailer or being more spacious.I could be wrong too.3*Will a 1/2 ton really have the gusto to tow the loaded trailer and haul a ton or 2 in the bed at the same time.

I would think that as a min, something like a F-250 or F-350, 4 WD, AUTO, plus equalizing hitch. You should be able to tow anything you put on that trailer.

 

[J_J]

No pickup will handle more than 3,000# in the bed for the most part unless you get a new Diesel 350/3500 series. To tow around you little tractor and trucks you can get by with a newer 1/2 ton and a 7K trailer.

Chris

One short ton = 2000 lbs

 

[Diamondpilot]

That was the way things were JJ. My 2007 F-150 1/2 ton will handle 1,650# in the bed. Some, depending on bed and wheelbase configuration will handle nearly 2,000# I have had more than that in mine hauling hardwood flooring. My 2006 F-350 1 ton 3,640# in the bed.


In many cases the newer 1/2 tons 2005 and up will handle loads that 1 tons could barely handle 15 years ago and certainly handle more than 3/4 tons from that era.

Chris

 

[dodge man]

L Brown, most 1/2 tons will tow at least 7000 lbs, often quite a bit more. A 3/4 tons has tougher brakes, axles, springs, larger front end componets etc, but they also weigh more and ride rougher, use more gas etc. I wouldn't narrow down my search to a 3/4 ton if I were you. I also wouldn't rule one out.

 

[wkpoor]

No pickup will handle more than 3,000# in the bed for the most part unless you get a new Diesel 350/3500 series. To tow around you little tractor and trucks you can get by with a newer 1/2 ton and a 7K trailer.

I would hope any 3/4 or 1 ton could handle that with ease. Geeze my panel van has a 4500lb payload capacity. I once had a skid of salt in the back weighing 2800lb and could hardly notice it was there. Didn't even change the ride height but maybe by 2 inches. Actually todays 1/2 tons should handle 2000lbs. with no problem.

 

[J_J]

OK guys, just what is the definition of a 1/2 ton pick up. I am really curious.

This is just one expression.

The "half-ton" description loosely refers to the truck's payload capacity. This means that the truck can carry up to 1000 pounds (453.5 kg) of cargo and passengers in the cab and bed. But wait a minute: If you take a look at the stats on modern half-ton pickups, you'll notice that their payload capacities exceed 1000 pounds (453.5 kg). Although early half-ton pickups could carry max loads of 1000 pounds (453.5 kg), since at least the 1960s, new and improved half-ton pickups have been able to safely carry more,

So, don't skip over half-tons because you think you need more capacity -- this name contradicts their real hauling power. Consumer Reports actually warns against buying a truck with more hauling capacity than you need because its higher-capacity suspension will make for a more uncomfortable ride [source: Consumer Reports]. It's also important to note that payload capacity isn't the same thing as towing capacity, which you'll need to consider if you plan to haul a boat or trailer.

 

[JohnDeere4300]

1*The reason I want a deck over is to get the wheels and finders out of the way so i can load and unload from the side with forks or my loader or even the Back Hoe.The reason I want to keep the width down to 7.5 feet is so say I have dirt or something to un load I can reach it with the Fel or BH from each side. 2*I look at deckovers eliminating the wheels and fenders being in the way not as a heavier trailer or being more spacious.I could be wrong too.3*Will a 1/2 ton really have the gusto to tow the loaded trailer and haul a ton or 2 in the bed at the same time.

With my 20FT. car hauler i can still load it from the side or back, using a tractor with forks or a regular forklift. I load a pallet up close to the front of the trailer, (so that is in front of the fenders).

Then at the main back you load a pallet on, (you can make a pallet that is ~2~ times as long as a regular pallet) Then when you load from the back, you take the pallet that is longer and push the other pallets to the front, then when you unload and you have a pallet that is between your fenders, you take a chain and pull it until you can get the forks to it.

*If you want me to tell you how to make a pallet that is 8FT. long then let me know*

I like a car hauler because it is low to the ground, when i owned a deck over trailer, i made steps for both sides so it was easy to get up and down.

 

[wkpoor]

Consumer Reports actually warns against buying a truck with more hauling capacity than you need because its higher-capacity suspension will make for a more uncomfortable ride [source: Consumer Reports].

I actually prefer the ride of a 1ton. I like the solid feel.On a long trip I can ride better in a firm vehicle than a slush ride.

 

[farmboy12]

DP-
We've had 4000#+ in the back of our Chevy 2500 gas, 4spd, auto. Handled just a little off. If he's looking at 3000#, a heavy built 1/2 ton, (which is pretty much the same as our truck) will do just fine.


Kyle

 

[George2615]

Qoute by LB:
O K so much for the trailer.
Now on to the pickup to tow it with.
Looking for used 7 to 10 years old.
Need a payload that will let me haul 2000 to 4000 pounds.
Other desired truck features :
4 Wheel drive.
Auto Trans.
Power Steering.
Air Cond.
Diesel would be nice but not a must .
What towing capacity should I be shooting for?
Thanks: L B .



For the truck specs if you want a payload of 2-4K your looking at at least a 3/4T. GM specs their new trucks as follows:
1/2T Payload in bed 1947lb. Max Trailer 10,500lb
3/4T Payload in bed 3892lb Max Trailer 15,800lb
1T Payload in bed 5307lb Max Trailer 16,500lb

These specs came from this link.
http://www.gm.ca/gm/english/vehicles/commercial/pickup_trucks

In a nutshell any model or brand 1/2T truck will tow your prospective loaded trailer with no problem but if you want to tow and have over a ton payload capacity you'll need at least a 3/4T.

Note that these numbers are for new GM trucks. Older trucks will also tow your load but have lower ratings such as most 1/2T were only rated to tow up to 8500lb 7-10 years ago. This is still large enough to tow your prospective loaded trailer. You won't find a diesel in a 1/2T so if you want that option you'll need at least a 3/4T. The other options you picked have pretty much been standard order so you shouldn't have any problem finding them.

 

[LBrown59]

L Brown, most 1/2 tons will tow at least 7000 lbs, often quite a bit more.
1*A 3/4 tons has tougher brakes, axles, springs, larger front end componets etc, but they also weigh more and ride rougher, use more gas etc. I wouldn't narrow down my search to a 3/4 ton if I were you. I also wouldn't rule one out.

1*I bought a new 1971 ford F 250 3/4 heavy duty camper special back then .
It rode very nice.
Surly todays modern 3/4 tons ride at least as good as it did.
I'm not looking for ride comfort anyway but seeking performance and capability.
Besides I have a Toyota Nissan and Dodge D 50 pick ups for the softer ride and the better fuel economy.
Since I have these other pickups the truck I'm seeking would not be a daily driver.

1*I would hope any 3/4 or 1 ton could handle that with ease. Geeze my panel van has a 4500lb payload capacity.
2*Actually todays 1/2 tons should handle 2000lbs. with no problem.

1*I'd think so since I hauled 4000 pounds more than once on the new Ford F250 3/4 ton I had in 1971.
If todays modern 3/4 ton can't beat that; pickups haven't improved they've declined.
2*Appears a1/2 ton is out for the payload I want.

 

[LBrown59]

Qoute by LB:
O K so much for the trailer.
Now on to the pickup to tow it with.
Looking for used 7 to 10 years old.
Need a payload that will let me haul 2000 to 4000 pounds.
Other desired truck features :
4 Wheel drive.
Auto Trans.
Power Steering.
Air Cond.
Diesel would be nice but not a must .
What towing capacity should I be shooting for?
Thanks: L B .
For the truck specs if you want a payload of 2-4K your looking at at least a 3/4T. GM specs their new trucks as follows:
1/2T Payload in bed 1947lb. Max Trailer 10,500lb
3/4T Payload in bed 3892lb Max Trailer 15,800lb
1T Payload in bed 5307lb Max Trailer 16,500lb

These specs came from this link.
General Motors Commercial Trucks

1*In a nutshell any model or brand 1/2T truck will tow your prospective loaded trailer with no problem but if you want to tow and have over a ton payload capacity you'll need at least a 3/4T.

1*Looks like the payload specs are going to be harder to meet than the tow rating required.

 

[wkpoor]

1*I'd think so since I hauled 4000 pounds more than once on the new Ford F250 3/4 ton I had in 1971.
If todays modern 3/4 ton can't beat that; pickups haven't improved they've declined.

I'm sure you did but we are talking mfg rating, not what you did. Heck I could put 5,000lbs in my van. Doesn't mean its safe. The ratings sure have gone up. However I sometimes wonder if that isn't marketing wars.