08 F550 V10?

[Diamondpilot]

just got a pic from the guy check out this beast. looks like the pic is from the summer.

MAN, that thing is sharp. I would love to have one like that but it would have to be a auto.

Chris

 

[3500DIESEL]

It is a pretty sweet ride,but then again the diesel is nicer for plowing IDK what to do.

 

[Diamondpilot]

25,000 lbs behind a gas powered pickup for 30 miles????

Sorry man, but I gotta call you on that one. That's just too hard to believe.

My IH4800 struggles pulling 25,000lbs and that's a 60,000 GCWR dumptruck.

Well I don't have a pic of it in tow but the first boat is the one I tow with my 2006 F-350 PSD 30 miles each spring a fall to a storage facility. The boat next to it on the right is just slightly smaller than my boat, the one in the avatar. This boat is a 36' Carver with a 13' beam. Here is a link to the Carver 36 Mariner Home page. As you can see the boat empty with standard options is 19,500# I can tell you it has every option and then some like hard wood flooring we installed. The trailer for that boat weighs about 6,000# alone.
http://www.carveryachts.com/2008_carver_36_mariner.aspx


The next picture is of my uncles boat. He stores it at the same place in the fall and tows it to the lake in the spring with his 2005 F-350 V-10. Its a Sea Ray Sundancer that is about 40' long with the extended swim platform and has a 12' beam. Here are the specs for this boat. Its listed at 15,400# dry but he has re powered it with twin 8.1's and has every option on the market for it. The trailer for it is also right at 6,000# alone.
http://www.searay.com/2009_sea_ray_...rochure&tab=1&modelid=140266&reqtype=1,5,9,19

We apply for over width permits from the state and have them in our hands via fax in 20 minutes. We use a escort vehicle front and back. The biggest concern is our route. The Carver is nearly 16' tall on the trailer and the Sea Ray is 14'6". That is will all the antennas down.

Chris

 

[Diamondpilot]

When we launch these boats we use 2 trucks, both in 4 Low. Usually its both of my SuperDutys or sometimes we use my buddies Dodge 3500 Cummins as the second truck. One backing it in and the other hooked to the front tow hook via a tow strap for extra braking capacity. Both of these large boats have electric brakes on the trailer which is necessary. Other than that its just taking your time and having plenty of help to get these pigs on the trailer.

You question the V-10 but in reality it will tow more on paper than the diesel due to it being about 400# lighter or something like that. It will not win any races and even in 4 Low it takes about 4,500 RPM to get it lugged up the ramp.

The other guy who does this work at the lake has a 2001 F-450 dump with the V-10 also and has been doing it longer than me with no issues.

Chris

 

[3500DIESEL]

So does anyone think i will be disapointed from going from diesel to gas??

 

[Diamondpilot]

Sorry to hijack the thread but me and him go round and round. I am not sure how to answer your question. Ask the dealer if you can take it home for a day long test drive. My dealer will let me take whatever I want. If he will not he must be the only dealer in the country selling cars and trucks right now.

I have 2 PSD trucks and my next one may very well be the V-10. I know it will be as step backwards in power and torque but it will also put a lot of cash back in my pocket. Just do what you think is right. The V-10 would not be the deal breaker for me, it would be the lack of a auto tranny but you obviously are fine with that.

Chris

 

[JohnDeere4300]

That is a nice truck, but the price just don't seem right. i have looked for 1ton dump trucks before and they were rough looking, and
they were asking pretty close to that price.

If that had a diesel and auto that would be perfect.

 

[3500DIESEL]

come on now who doesnt like to shift gears. Ill agree it might be a little less in torque but Ill be dam if i buy a new 6.4 with the EPA bull crap on them if it wasnt for that it would be a diesel and plus this one is speced out very nice for me I think i will head to the dealer tomorrow and see if i can test it for the rest of the weekend or what ever.

 

[3500DIESEL]

That is a nice truck, but the price just don't seem right. i have looked for 1ton dump trucks before and they were rough looking, and
they were asking pretty close to that price.

If that had a diesel and auto that would be perfect.

like i said I will not buy a new diesel and $28,000 for a 2008 ford F550 xlt dump bed with a year old fisher 9ft x Blade and the 6speed dont bother be a bit.

 

[JohnDeere4300]

come on now who doesnt like to shift gears. Ill agree it might be a little less in torque but Ill be dam if i buy a new 6.4 with the EPA bull crap on them if it wasnt for that it would be a diesel and plus this one is speced out very nice for me I think i will head to the dealer tomorrow and see if i can test it for the rest of the weekend or what ever.

You should ask the dealer if you can load it, then drive it and see what you think about it.

I believe dealers will do anything right now to sell.

One other thing, i would ask if there is a LIEN on it.

*There was someone in my area bought a used car from a dealer, the person that traded the car in for a new one had a lien on it, the dealer DIDN"T PAY OFF THE LIEN TO THE BANK, now the person that
bought the used car is owes the dealer and the lien to the bank.*

 

[3500DIESEL]

The trucks free and clear from any liens or anything like that like i said the only reason the guy traded it is for an auto becuase of his knees, it will be pretty cool to have another truck like that running around if i buy it. LOL

 

[john_bud]

I don't know if you will be "disappointed", but you will have to learn to rev the motor more and will wonder what the heck all those squirrels are doing under the hood with all that noise!

I personally know of 3 people that had V10's spit plugs. One was during a vacation. But, all were early engines. I haven't heard much about that in a while. Much more about the 03 and 04 6.0 liter diesel engine problems, but even that is fading out. For the money, the 550 looks to be a bargain. I'd probably offer 3-4000 less than the asking price if they can do the deal right away. It may be a gas pig, but the 6.4l diesel is not getting that much better economy. Most people that "do the math" say that the higher cost to buy the diesel engine, the higher cost per gallon and the higher maintenance costs balance out pretty close to the lower fuel economy the gas engines give.

jb

 

[Builder]

So does anyone think i will be disapointed from going from diesel to gas??

You won't be disappointed as much as you will be having to adjust. The off pedal torque won't be there that diesels have. This will really show up when the truck is heavily loaded. For example, if you're towing a heavy load, it won't move the load off the line without revving much higher on the tach. You'll have to put your foot into the pedal more.

My 4800 has a lot of off-pedal torque. When pulling my backhoe on the trailer (about 23,500lbs) you can just let the clutch out without revving a lot and the load starts moving. When i did this with a 429 gas powered Ford dump, it had to be revved to get the load moving.

When towing, it will guzzle more gas, so you'll spend more time at the filling station.
You will probably mistakenly grind the starter a few times thinking the engine isn't running.
Gas engines seem so quiet compared to a Powerstroke.

To be honest with you, it looks like a pretty truck, but for that kind of money, you could get a truck like mine and have a serious dumptruck that can do a lot more work.

I'm selling my 4800 to go to an even bigger truck hopefully this spring!!!

I've had a bunch of small dumptrucks and after a year or 2, no matter what brand, you find that they're really limited in what they can do.
This was my old '99.5 F-450. I know it doesn't have the payload of a F-550, but even if it was a 550, it wouldn't have satisfied me. These trucks have a way of leaving you wanting more than they can handle.

 

[powerstroke444e]

Builder you talked me out of a f450 several months ago and I have yet to purchase anything as I can't make my mind up either, but my question is this how often do you use the 4wd on your 4800?
I to haul around 15-25K most of the time and can't find the truck that trips my trigger yet.

3500 that truck looks great and as for the v10 when working it hard its going to earn its keep. Price seems fair compared to prices I have seen around here. Local dodge dealer has a few 4500's with hemi's and can't give them away.

 

[Diamondpilot]

Local dodge dealer has a few 4500's with hemi's and can't give them away.

The Hemi is no match for the Ford V-10, I had one in a 2500 Dodge. It made great HP but the torque is just not there, especially at low RPM's where its need in a truck. Great engine for a car like the 300M or Charger but should have been keep out of the trucks, especially the 2500 series and up. Might be ok for a 1500.

Chris

 

[Builder]

Builder you talked me out of a f450 several months ago and I have yet to purchase anything as I can't make my mind up either, but my question is this how often do you use the 4wd on your 4800?
I to haul around 15-25K most of the time and can't find the truck that trips my trigger yet.

You made a smart choice not buying one. It's not much more than a glorified 1-ton pickup. After I bought my 4800, my 450 just sat. It was just a toy compared to my 4800. No use for it anymore. In the 4800 I use the 4x4 fairly often, depends on the terrain & soil conditions. One job was taking broken concrete down to a river bank and dumping it off the bank into the river to make a levy/dam of sorts out of broken concrete. Nice having 4x4 in that situation, one slip and in the river you go. I also use it to get closer to piles of fill or construction debris that I wouldn't be able to in a 4x2.

You can haul 18K in my truck legally, but I've had 24K in the bed more than once, 20K many times.

 

[Willl]

There were reports of guys blowing the spark plugs out but I think that is all hype.

Really ?

Consumer complaints about Ford Engines - Spark Plug Defect

Edit; Oops, my bad, didn't see that you were already nailed about it.

 

[Diamondpilot]

Well like I said me and my friends have owned 30 plug 5.4L V-8 trucks and 2 6.8L V-10 trucks and never had a single problem.

Chris

 

[Builder]

Well like I said me and my friends have owned 30 plug 5.4L V-8 trucks and 2 6.8L V-10 trucks and never had a single problem.

Chris

Seems like a common mantra in all your posts.

32 different Ford trucks (and the list grows bigger all the time) without a single problem.

All other brands owned by you, your neighbor and all your other aquaintances were nothing but trouble.

I'm sure you can understand that sounds difficult to believe, right?

 

[Diamondpilot]

Seems like a common mantra in all your posts.

32 different Ford trucks (and the list grows bigger all the time) without a single problem.

All other brands owned by you, your neighbor and all your other aquaintances were nothing but trouble.

I never said they did not have single problem. I have had the best luck with Fords. I have plenty of friends with GM, Dodge, Nissian, and Toyota vehicles that have had good luck. I have had good luck with my Saturn.

I am just saying of all the Ford trucks my family and friends have owned I have never heard of one single one blowing a spark plug. Guess we better park them all or they will blow up.

Chris